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#1
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Vivid Dream
September 02, 2003, 09:29:38
I had a very vivid dream that woke me up early last night/this morning.

I believe it to be a combination of subconscious projections and actual astral adventure.

In a town there was an area that was divided in two levels; it looked like the upper and lower levels of a parking structure.

I was "working" on the upper level and was starting up my own little business. There were several other organizations on this upper level.

However, word got around that a certain number of people needed to be working on the upper level, or they would be ousted by a growing organization on the lower level. A couple people came to me and said they in fact needed to find a job quickly, because this would help protect them and all the upper level organizations. I told them I really didn't have positions, and couldn't offer any pay, but they were welcome to join anyway.

Unfortunately, it turned out that it was too late; the organization on the lower level was indeed taking over. I went to that area to investigate. What I saw was the leader -- a man -- Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned [;)]. He had a very large following that was continuing to grow. People were very excited and committed to the organization. The leader was indeed very charismatic and powerful. And I saw why. He was speaking in front of a large crowd. As he spoke, a large arc of energy projected from the area of his head and spread down to the crowd. It was this energy that he emitted that captivated and and possibly controlled the crowd. I didn't stay much longer. I snuck away from the crowd and quickly crawled back up to the upper level area and I went to my home. I felt glad to get away unseen.

The feeling I got was not so much evil but of strong power and control.

When I woke up, I knew exactly what the dream was about.

#2
That is, the real time zone?

I have now had a handful of OBE/lucid dream experiences in the past month or so, but I always seem to go directly into the astral. Here is what my pattern seems to be:

- Relax in bed in the morning, fall lightly asleep
- Wake up to find my arms and legs detached from my body; still feel stuck in the torso. Sometimes I feel buzzing, tickling; usually I hear astral sounds. Not yet the classic earth-shattering "vibrations."
- Go unconscious again for a few moments and wake up again to find myself out of body, in an OBE or lucid dream. (Is there a difference at this point?). Once I was in bedroom but it felt nothing like my real bedroom. I never see my physical body lying on the bed, or anything like that.  
- At this point it becomes a very lucid dream, often involving flying, or can degenerate into a "normal" dream. Yet sometimes there seem to be hallmarks of OBE-ness, like when I felt myself being pulled back to my body. This morning I asked to see the pyramids, did seem to fly somewhere, but the pyramids I saw had large metal bars over their peaks. Obviously I was not in the RTZ.

So any tips??? I know, read Astral Dynamics again [;)]
#3
I have been meditating on and off for years. I seem to go in about 3 month cycles, where I will meditate very regularly (and sometimes up to 2 or 3 hours a day) and then, for some reason, I just stop.

I've been thinking about why I keep stopping and I think it is because I hit a "wall" of some sort. Usually what happens is after a few weeks of meditating, every time I sit down I start to fall asleep or into a deep, unfocused state, even if I am chanting a mantra loudly in my mind, or whatever.

So this time I am determined to break through that "wall" and not slip into unconsciousness during my meditations. What I have discovered is that there is a HUGE amount of mental activity going on - an onslaught of hypnogogic imagery and hypnogogic sound. But rather than being thoughts that I seem to be thinking, it's like the thoughts and imagery are thinking ME. It's almost as if I can't stop the thoughts because they are not my thoughts in the first place, there is no intent behind them, it's like a large amount of noise and static going on. And, like someone else mentioned on this board, I realized for the first time my thoughts are truly in layers; I may have 2-4 "streams" of thoughts going on at any one time.

I'll bet this is just a matter of "practice, practice, practice" but I'm wondering if anyone else relates!

- Jade
#4
Hello all,

This is my first post in this forum. Well over the last month I have been reading both Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics as well as William Buhlman's "Adventures Out of the Body." Both excellent, in my opinion. I love Robert Bruce's very thorough, detailed approach.

Anyway, I haven't been overtly trying to have an OBE, but I am very interested in the "physics" so to speak of the process. I haven't been trying to induce OBEs, mostly because it seems to take a lot of focused dedication along with sleeping in, and with my family life right now, sleeping in is difficult (although I try to do it as much as possible [;)] ) and I'm trying to spend my available time meditating more.

But this morning, I believe I had an OBE, the second since I've been reading about them, and along with it I realized I've been OBEing all my life, but in a subconscious or unconscious manner. It started with a few false awakenings, a dream about an alternate version of our house, then *very* uncomfortable sensations of tickling on both sides of my torso. There was a lot of noise, not a roar, but like loud tinnitus, and I suddenly realized my legs were free of my body. I didn't try to exit, though, because I felt stuck in the upper part of my body. I believe I then rolled over out of my body, then a little later I looked down and saw my hands quite clearly, and realized my whole body was free. I was not 100% conscious and clear-thinking; but definitely more conscious than I would be in a dream.

I didn't see my physical body or any real-time scenario; the few conscious OBEs I've had, I've gone straight to the astral. In this case I started flying around; below me was a landscape densely packed trees. I was also singing and to my chagrin, I found out my astral singing voice is no better than my physical singing voice. [:I] I saw some people in a pool below and as I flew away I saw them get smaller and smaller.

Then I saw a small clearing where there seemed to be an animal like a lion lying nearby. I descended and the landscape turned to desert. I saw a "person" but it was just a shadowy dark presence, who I thought to be a man in a suit. I then decided it was time to end the adventure and returned to my body.

The sensation of flying was incredibly vivid and real, and I still felt floaty when I opened my eyes. Boy, do I love the feeling of being free!

Thanks for listening...

-- Jade
#5
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Vivid Dream
September 03, 2003, 22:51:41
I was wondering whether anyone would ask .... [8D] Voldemort... [:D]

Actually, it was someone who was recently discussed on this forum, but who has not contributed to any of the Astralpulse forums (as far as I know).

[edited for clarity]
#6
The books by Barbara Ann Brennan (Hands of Light, Light Emerging) are gorgeous, thorough, and inspiring; but they do not teach one how to heal. They are best used as an adjunct to an existing healing apprenticeship or practice.

You might check out "Pranic Healing" by Choa Kok Sui, or look into a Reiki class as a start.
#7
Why do I want to get into the RTZ? A couple reasons, I guess. Validation, for one. Although this is not a biggie, it would be interesting to validate OBEs on my own. Secondly, I'm not in a position to travel these days, so if I could visit the pyramids or the Parthenon or even Bryce Canyon, that would be neat. Also flying in the RTZ seems pretty fun, I'd like to fly over my neighborhood.
#8
Suzi,

You have received some great replies. I just wanted to add that you might want to read the book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle. He essentially talks about uncovering our inner nature (peace, joy, love...) which is independent of external events. I have recently been reading this and have found it to be very helpful in my journey.

By the way I am planning to take Reiki level II next week. Looking forward to it. [:)]
- Jade
#9
Just because the message turned out to be true doesn't mean it came from your Higher Self. In fact, if the message felt negative or disturbing it may have been from your subconscious (tuned into the future), another entity, etc. etc.
#10
Welcome to Astral Chat! / white dots in sky?
May 20, 2003, 00:30:22
I have no problem seeing the "white dots" and I don't really see auras or anything. They are actually like white squiggles, to me, they dart around. Very different from "floaters" that are within the vitreous of the eye (which I have more of every year, sigh).

As was mentioned earlier, they are described in Barbara Brennan's book "Hands of Light." Here is a brief description from the book:

"The easiest way to begin to observe the univeral energy field is to simply relax on your back in the grass on a nice sunny day and gaze at the blue sky. After some time you will be able to see the tiny globules of orgone making squiggly patterns against the blue sky. They seem to be tiny white balls, sometimes with a black spot, that appear for a second or two, leave a slight trail mark, and then disappear again."
#11
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Matrix Reloaded
May 19, 2003, 16:09:56
While visually a spectacular movie, ultimately, Matrix Reloaded disappointed me and my husband. I really really wanted to like it, but I was not surprised that it would have nowhere near the impact of the original. [:(]

* SPOILER ALERT *********

I thought certain scenes were well done, though. I just got done reading Robert Bruce's "Psychic Self-Defense" book and the replication of Agent Smith reminded me of his discussion of the reproducability of certain Negs. And the albino twins were awesome "Negs" too....