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It could be that it was the "real one" but he wasn't lucid in the dream.

Normal dreams contains a lot of action if you would join me in a dream were I'm not lucid and I wont remember the next day it wouldn't mean that this dream wouldn't be spectacular right?

So many experiments come to mind.

For sure I would visit my higher self and try to learn as much as possible.

You can but think about it. What if you will know you will die in 1 year. If you believe it or not your whole live will change and at the end you will never know if you will die or not. And even if you would die on that exact date was it because you knew or was it because the time was over. Would you have lived longer if you wouldn't have known?

Why would you like to know such a thing?

If you manifest pokemons there than there will be pokemons. The astral world has so many residents its impossible to count. We all reside here and there.

of course you can

Both is possible. But to project while physically awake is more difficult

Thanks for sharing that story, RobertForsythe.

I wonder, though, if we are just phasing or tuning into the physical and the various non-physical dimensions, is it possible that when I pulled that thing from my head, maybe I was not totally tuned into the physical and the object was not made up of physical matter (rather, it was something less dense)? In other words, maybe if I dug through that garbage bag, I would not find it because it's made of "astral matter." Sort of related to this, a few weeks ago, after another brief OBE in the afternoon, I got up and went to the refrigerator because I was craving something sweet. I did not feel entirely in phase with the physical. I felt very sluggish. I picked up a jar of jam, or I tried to. I managed to lift it from the shelf in the fridge, but I could not seem to fully grasp it, and it slipped right out of my hand and crashed to the floor. The first thing I thought was "I'm not quite back yet."

That would incline that the object was never in the physical cause you still were on the borderline so to say.

I think vibration is a very important thing in our selfs. Music goes there thats why we have so strong feelings with music.

I don't think there is anything which could damaging our soul.

I have heard others teach this as well. In physics it is called "Conservation of Mass".

There was a story I read around 1970 about a poor preacher with a church in a poor district of town. Suspicions were aroused when he began showing up at various places in town with plenty of cash and he was paying bills for people in need and generally helping the poor. A local police officer began an investigation and after a while some Federal officers showed up at his house and asked how he came by that money. They explained that they had followed him and checked out the serial numbers on some of the larger bills he was spending. It turned out that they had been withdrawn in large amounts by wealthy people who had traveled to Europe and had booked a trip home on a luxury liner. When they boarded the ship those bills were registered with the captain and stored in the ship's safe.

The ship's name was the Titanic, and these law officers were extremely curious how this money came into his possession. The minister explained that every now and then he prayed to God at night before bed to assist him in helping people in need. He told the officials that whenever God approved of his idea he would wake up in the morning and the money he needed for a specific task would be on his nightstand.

Thats a cool story there.

Dam, I'll never get there! 

Never say never 

My apologies WhiteMonkey. I think I offended you. That was not my intent, just poor judgement. My response above was tongue-in-cheek. What I was alluding to is that that is the only experience I have with that, kids playing with stuff they knew nothing about. So no I don't have any experience with mirrors and such in the here and now. But I'm kind of tempted to see what I would see if did do as you described.

No harm done 
After reading your post last time I got that someone could put such a technique/meditation in that categorie 

Those who are beyond searching and finding

I wouldn't say religion stops you as your own fixed believe systems you wont let go even if you know they are wrong.

So basicaly you are blocking yourself.

Looks nice but why is it only in pre-order?

It is possible but it is also very difficult.  It's called apportation. Kai Mugge is a medium in Germany is able to do apports under very tightly controlled conditions set up by para psychologist for lab studies.  The things that are apported are probably not made from nothing but are located and transported from elsewhere in the physical material reality.

The other example of something from essentially nothing came from two types of alchemy. One is called Palingenesis or the plant phoenix.. A procedure was outlined by E sibly and YB Yates wrote an article about it. Rosecrucians were alleged to be able to do this. The other was the generation of a homunculus.  The plant was generated from the ashes of the same type of plant and the homunculus or animunculus was generated from semen of the animal to be generated. The reported successes of these experiments appeared to be visible by anyone ... not just someone in an altered state. None of these came from astral projections, but anything that can be done in projection can be done without projecting so if these experiments are successful without projecting there should be a way to do it from that state of consciosuness.   It's a very interesting question and not really as simple as you would think.

I had a discussion with a theoretical physicist who works for the Canadian Space agency or something like that last month and he was actually working towards doing what you are describing. . He said it should be possible.. His work is much more current than Tom Campbells and some of the more recent discoveries support the possibilities of palingeneisis, apportation in particular. Generation of homunculus isn't covered to my knowledge and we didn't discuss it.

here is the article by E Sibly http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/sibly4.htm

The article on palingeneissi can be found in the Rosecrucian notebook.

and the Article on the homunculus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homunculus

Kai's circle http://felixcircle.blogspot.ca/


I don't think Kai is a fake. He works under conditions which most would consider impossible and tolerates strip searches and being hauled to unknown locations to have the seance as well as being bound hand and foot as well as gagged during trance.  A number of parapsychologists illusionists and mentalists ahve attended his seances setting the conditions to prove the legitimacy of his abilities I don't think you could ask for any more than what he's done. I have not seen it first hand but unless all those people are in on it I don't think even the best magician would be able to work under the conditions he's been subjected to.

Wow thats a very interesting post. I will follow this links soon.
In my opinion you cant create something out of nothing but if you manifest/create something out of thin air you not creating out of nothing but you change the energy of the air and the space between and some of your energy into the thing you want to manifest.

If you think it in scientifical way. Everything consists of the same component. Some scientist say stardust some say energie some say something else. But everything is made of the same 'thing' so to materialize something we basicaly juat need to reorder this 'thing' to our object. Of course that need a lot of concentration and energy from us but maybe in the future it will be normal who nows.

If I remember right it was in the secret of the soul book

Red them a long time ago 

Hey recoverer,

looks like a good book but right now it seems that your marketing is not yet perfect. I work sometimes with books so I have some experience with it.
First of all you need to make a promotion plan for your book. I guess you published it yourself right? You need to get a lot of reviews and downloads of your book to get it up in ranking. Thats really important.

If you want my personal help just ask. I can give you some tips and trick for it.

I like this books. They are written well and contain a lot of content. I liked a lot how he described how you should proceed if someone dies.

All of these authors are really good and they write about their own experience but please remember that this is their experience not yours. Your non physical travels may or may not be the same as theirs.

Thanks,
I awoke at 1/2am this morning and played the recorded affirmations for 10 mins.

Then went back to sleep and awoke at 3:30am and went back to sleep immediately.

After that I awoke in the afternoon.

Are there any other books similar to the phase?

More advice from anyone would help.

Thanks.

Thats such a long sleep from 3:30am to the afternoon. Did you try to separate when you woke up at 3:30am?
Did you try to do it after a nap? Did you simulate the whole thing once already?

There is no book totally similar to the phase but there are many out there which write about this experience. Just be careful not to read them all and then start to make all the techniques at the same time and getting lost in there.
Best is always stay with one technique for some time and then change to another one try it out and then eventually change again.

This staring into the mirror meditation is actually nothing crazy or creepy nor has it to do with seances or black magic. Its just a meditation to observe whats going to happen.

would be interesting to see it but I can understand that you don't wanna dig up your trash 

For some reason, when people become aware in their Dream, they think they need to alter them. If you are Dreaming what you are currently Dreaming, there must be a good reason for it. Explore that area and unlock the puzzle.

That's an interesting statement. So according to your experience ever dream is a puzzle and needs to be solved or lets say experienced?
Can you give me an example here?
Would be very interested.



@luffy:
for me the best time to stand up is after 7 to 8 hours sleep everything after makes me more tired and everything before makes me not working as well. So for me I like to stand up after 5 to 6 hours of sleep.

The optimal setting for me is like this: read about obe's like journals, books or just randomly on the forum from 8pm to 10pm then at 10pm I will go to bed with the intention to wake up around 4 am. I don't use an alarm cause I can program myself quite good(just lay down say to yourself my body feels heavy and warm until this happens than say I'm totally relaxed and then I wake up at 4 am) works 80% of the times. Then at 4 am I jump out of bed otherwise I will continue sleeping and go to the bathroom, drink something and make some streching. Then I read for 5 mins something about obe and go to sleep with the intention to separate and to become aware and of course to wake up motionless. Then once woke up I do the technique you already know.

Just do it 100% percent don't give the thought I do it later any change. Push yourself through and don't stop.

Wow this thread is getting more and more interesting.

First I wanted to ask you all if you know the meditation were you stare into the mirror for 30min to 1h a day?

Basically you just stare into the mirror every day in a medium lit room and let your vision get a little bit unfocused. (Like when you try to observe an aura). You keep staring for 30min to 1h for about 30 days.
Its as easy as that but the results are quite interesting.

When I did this first few days all I felt was that my eyes were getting tired and that my face look always a bit different. After a few days I saw different faces in this mirror most of them I have never seen or don't regocnised them anymore. More than a week in I saw also some kind of animal faces and the faces started to change faster and faster. After 2 weeks there were moments where there was no more face in the mirror just a black blurry view.



About portals:
I grew up in a mountainous region and there are many stories about strange happenings. For example several times there was this story of people who hiked a mountain but didn't come back for a few days(once for 3 months). The rescue team was searching everywhere but nobody was to be found. The newspapers declared them lost and probably dead. Then suddenly they returned from the mountain and came into a bar. They looked the same way they left. The people in the mountain bar(knowing the report who was lost) asked them where have you been? How could you be still alive? But they just answered why? we were only gone for half a day. They didn't know such a long time had passed.

On time I heard a story of a hiker who went to the mountain early in the morning and met a man on the top of the mountain which was wearing clothes from 50 years ago. He said to the hiker better go out of this cave you loose to much time. So he went out and it was already night.

I never experienced this but once while walking with my friend through the forest I know in and out having grown up there I was suddenly in a place I have never seen before. It was still forest but there was a heavy mist hanging in the trees and in front of us where 2 big black dogs?! with glowing eyes. We got scared and run but after a few meters we were again in my known forest without any mist.


Thats all so far.
All the best

I have seen people manifesting things out of fin air. It one of those things which is interesting if we believe in it or not...

Do you have a pic of your stone or is it still in the trash bin?


All the best