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hey guys!

well, let's just say that whenever i try to post someone else's quote, it doesn't work. either that or i'm stupid and i can't figure it out. can you tell me how to do it so i can find out if it's my computer or my cluttered mind?

If a neg is thoroughly attached to you (say over a period of about 10 or 12 years) can it become immune to water or running water?

Hmm...well, i suppose i should start from the beginning. To read HALF of my story, before i knew it as caused by a Neg, click this:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4534

so, now, if you've read that, you should hear how i'm now positively sure it's a neg. I had night terrors when i was about two years old till i was about 5? 6? somewhere around there. Then they stopped. I was always a strange child, but the weirdest thing was my headaches. I just thought it was because of a hard day of school, and i thought nothing of it until this year. you know all about that, i suppose. well, the problem with being...negged? negulated? ha...negulated's better. anyway, the problem with being negulated is that i'm afraid that the neg now knows that i know it's there and will start actually "attacking" me instead of just gradually relaxing and attaching itself to me. i just started getting chills, and i'm afraid they're going to get progessively worse. i wouldn't actually mind this happening, because usually i could just get help from my parents to get help for myself, because i can't exactly do this without their help. But whatever i do with energy and the like my parents think is satanism and wicca (i tried to pursue wicca once and i had to give it up because my parents thought i was 'getting into the wrong thing' or some other nonsense...anyway...). This si my problem. If I come to them and tell them that I am 'negulated' (heh heh...still love that word...) they'll think i need counseling...or to go to an insane asylum, either one, it's all the same to them. so what should i do? my parents are already threatening to read Psychic Self Defense, which I just got...

I had a dream, not necessarily a nightmare, but just not a particularly happy dream...
i can't remember some of it, as it was expanded over many periods of REM, i suppose, but, here goes:
(as an afterthought, first I must explain, I'm involved in a musical theater group that does a whole lot of ilbert and Sullivan operettas.)

I was cast as Mabel, the leading female role in the play "Pirates of Penzance". I was very very nervous backstage, and I forgot ALL of my lines. (can't you see where this is going?) well, i go onstage, and it all goes well until some dialogue (i'm extremely sure that this dialogue wasn't even in the play of Pirates of Penzance...but it was a dream...it gets weird, just wait a minute) came up. i ad-libed the whole thing, and i cursed the entire play. Dave (a co-director at our musical theater program) was the only one who noticed that I did these things wrong. Here comes the weird part. I go down to get congratulated by my family, and my dad is...let's just say "commiting adultery". My mom's not there. (I had never seen the woman in the dream who was "helping" my father "commit adultery".) So i go over some water (somehow our theater is now floating...?)to a little room. I have no idea how, but I knew this was where my mom was, and I went there. This is not an ordinary room. No...it has thongs lining the walls...leather ones, chained ones...all thongs...and my mom is in there. She's reading a book. (why didn't i write the book's title DOWN?? GRR!) I go over to her (nonchalantly, weirdly enough) and tell her that my father is two-timing her. I forget most of our conversation, but she didn't even care...

And then I wake up.

I know this would not exactly be an easy thing to analyze, but...any insights?
Thanks!
Jamie

I've just been having tons of trouble trying to AP and meditate. i worry too much and my conscious mind interferes. Whenever I try to meditate or AP, i'm too afraid that someone will come in and find me in this state. or, my mind is just saying things like, "Am I doing it? Is this it? It doesn't feel any different..."

How can I stop this? Is there any definite way for me to meditate, relax, or AP?

Thanks!! []

I'd absolutely LOVE to start energy working and reiki and the like. I really am an amateur at this, so what should i look into starting with energy? are there any really good sites or books? (obviously books by robert bruce.

Hello my name's jamie. I've been having headaches and pain in my neck for...::counting::...exactly five months. I get the occasional throat pain, too...and it has been puzzling doctors for so long, it's scary. even surgery hasn't helped. the only thing that ever helped was a time when my friend did something similar to Reiki to me. Now I am desperately seeking the source of astral and mental energies to help me get rid of these horrible headaches once and for all.

aww! [] I feel loved...
...i don't know what 'Headacky' is, but that's not what my username is based on...(just teasing, hun!)
don't worry. i believe in myself enough now so I know I can get rid of this thing in time. It just might be a while. A long while. But my energy slowly grows, and with it grows my experience. Don't worry about me as much as yourself, whose problems need to fixed more in the present. []
Luv Ya!

i think that if you know the lyrics and sing along in your head you occupy your surface mind enough so that you can concentrate on whatever you're doing.

Personally, I like Metallica, Papa Roach and Evanescence. []

i noticed this as well, neoaikon. when i'm listening to music (or music that i enjoy listening to) my energy does seem more controllable and powerful. Do you think it varies with different types of music, though?

yes...yes it is...[]

i'm sorry, liz, for screwing up your topic...but i still reccomend my way...no offense

...i did not misunderstand your words, i just chose to avoid most of them. true, i am twelve years old...but i have experienced what most twelve year olds never will and none of them will never want to experience.

i'm sorry, but i'm too angry at the word to accept love.

while you may think positive feelings that negs don't have a defense for will help get rid of one, how can that possibly make a neg go away/ knowing what i know about negs and with my experience with them, they are not 'it's of love and compassion that will leave when asked. It is better to scare a neg out of its wits so it will never come back than to live your life aimlessly with airy, positive thoughts and a neg attached to you.

Just so you know, asking them to kindly 'leave' is not exactly going to help...even Robert Bruce says so. Try to force it to leave. Using anger and being literally 'ticked off' towards life in general...that's probably one of the best things you can do. Just don't fear them or it. They 'feed' on fear.

I have been (and still am) being attacked by a Neg. One of my friends contacted Nita and Robert about it. I have posted other things on it and I now have read Robert's book and reread it and tried many countermeasures. Look at my other posts for many many details.

I actually know I got energy into my head, now. I felt some healing in my head (though extremely weak and more brief than weak, with my beginner's energy)

It's so hard to explain my energy method...ahh...well, i guess the best way to explain it was that I was lying around one day, and I was cold. I had tried energy work before, to no results. I thought, "Energy creates heat, right? So I guess I should try energy to make myself warm." So I just thought about something rushing through my body and making me warm, giving me a warm feeling inside, and it worked. i can't explain how, but it did. then, a few weeks (months?? dunno...) later, (about a week and a half ago)I tried to get energy into my head like I had been trying for some time, and I didn't feel any heat, and still dont, when I'm working with energy in my head. But if I focused on the part of my head that was feeling painful at that time, the pain would go away for a fraction of a second (literally). but now he pain seems to take longer the heal than it does to stay in one place.

I never had any thoughts about actually giving up energy work, since I only just started a couple of months (weeks??) ago and I know things take time.

i've finished reading psychic self defense. i've tried water fasting with success until my parents noticed i hadn't eaten all day and thought i was anorexic and made me eat something. at least i made up a good lie to cover up what i was really doing. uhhm...let me see...i'm trying to think of other countermeasures i've been doing...oh, i learned how to cleanse core images and cleased some of those...but either that's not working entirely or the neg is getting strong enough to recreate them fast. most likely i'm doing it wrong.

oh, my friend loves me very dearly and she did something wondeful for me. She actually contacted Robert bruce and Nita through Adrian and she's doing so much to try and help me. i feel loved. anyway, my friend sent a picture of me to Nita and Nita said that something isn't possessing me, but...let me find a quote, here..." She is not possessed but she does seem to have something trying to
overshadow her. " I'm going to look up more on this...and in the mean time, thank you so so so very much for taking an interest and trying to help me!!!

Jamie

Thank you Laurel. While your neg problems are much more severe and evident than mine, I think your ideas and countermeasures can help me. I will try some or all of these.

The problem with me and energy work is that i can't get energy to my head, where all of my neg induced problems are happening. All the pain and pressure is in my head, and no where else. I can move energy pretty freely around my body, except whenever i try to make it go into my head, the energy bounces off and goes through the rest of my body, or back down to my arms. Not "bounces"...it's as if a barrier were right below my neck forcing all the energy back.

1. i can fold my tongue into thirds in the front of my mouth so that my tongue looks like a mouth within a mouth.
2. i can predict who's on the phone when it rings. mental caller ID! woohoo!
3. i can create a sopund in my throat that sounds something between a roar and an anguished scream.
4. i know huge words. (you're pressing upon my neural transmitters in a deleterious manner which doesn't make me very eudaemonistic.)
5. i pick up random facts. see my autograph for details.
6. i know many random jokes and bumper sticker sayings (one day we'll look back on this, laugh nervously, then change the subject).
7. i can sound exactly like the lady singing opera on the beginning of the Encarta program (now, if only i had some bongo drums...).
8. while creepy, i can think of many creative ways to maim and kill people. or is that the neg? hehe.
9. i can laugh evilly.
10. i can create a different personality for every person's likes and dislikes. for instance, if i meet a goth, i act goth, even though I'm rather ditzy. sorta.

that's all i can think of for now...

my parents are not very open minded people. they have never considered possession at all. ever. i can assure you that much. my father thinks that it's from sleep deprivation (i'm an insomniac, but only because i fear what i might dream) and me being tired. my mother has no clue, but she insists on giving me all kinds of painkillers and antibiotics and vitamn C...i've been visiting an allergist since i last updated (i apologize for not having updated for a while...hectic happenings) and she gives me the allergy pill Zyrtec and rhinocort nasal spray. so i think she thinks it's something concerning allergies.

no...i haven't shown them the psychic self defense book or even brought up that it might be a neg or something...just because i fear the consequences if they don't believe me.

would you mind telling me your story and the countermeasures you useD? i think some of this might help me...

Most of my neg-induced symptoms are plainly pain...none of the disembodied voices or involuntary movements YET...though I fear they'll start soon.

When I was about 1-2 years old, I started screaming in my sleep. My mom would come and rock me, and I would never wake up. IF I did wake up after about an hour or so of rocking, then I wouldn't remember ever waking up the next morning. My parents blamed this on chocolate and chocolate ice cream. (dunno where they got THAT from...[] ). These lasted until I was about 8 years old.

When I was...about in fifth grade? either that or sixth...I had serious bouts of depression, suicidal thoughts, and sexual fantasies that no fifth grader would usually have. i had HUGE amounts of paranoia, and I was extremely uncomfortable with being alone. In the last year, I had started getting daily headaches, a stiff and painful neck (it still cracks every single time I stretch or flex it), and a sore throat. The sore throat was unusual, however, because it's different than the normal sore throat. This feels as if it were raw...as if someone was running a fork up and down the back of my throat. Usually, with sore throats, people experience either more or the same amount of pain when they swallow. Whenever I swallow, it doesn't hurt as much or at all.

Just recently (December) these symptoms flared up and become much, much worse. I stayed home from school 67 days this school year, 59 of those after December.

There's anxiety always, also, that had never stopped since the fifth grade. But I no longer experience night terrors like I had when I was younger.

That's all, I suppose...I can complain, can't I?[] oh well. hope you have 'fun' reading this...

whenever i go into water, it doesn't help any of my neg-induced symptoms. I'm starting to wonder whether or not it IS a neg, if the fact that they can become immune to water isn't possible.

Well I am 12 years old...and what exactly makes an 'inorganic' being versus an 'organic' being?

Well, I have been neg manifested since the age of two and have just started energy work without being able to AP once. The thing with negs is, they're always there and whether you AP or not there are still ways they can get you. For instance, I was two years old when i became neg infested and there was pretty much no chance of a two year old APing then. If you become neg-infested, it's not the end of the world, unless you get a higher neg, which are extremely rare. don't sweat it.

it depends on what you believe about dreams. personally, I believe that dreaming is your astral body trying to communicate with you, and either warning or reminding you about a specific problem. Or it could just be telling you about your problem and showing you different ways of solving it...only in a very weird code. When you just wake up from sleeping, you can remember dreams most. Try to decipher anything or people in your dreams that might pertain to real life, and figure out what your astral body is trying to tell you.
most people don't exactly notice when they're dreaming. you dream while in REM (rapid eye movement) and you only dream little bits and pieces, though to you it may seem like it's one huge stream of dreams.

Good Luck