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It has been a long time since, I have posted and I have to much to say about this so am gonna try to condense it into a summary
I also experience what you are experiencing.

When I first started , I would end up in the real time zone and it gave me belief that the afterlife existed and we werent alone.
so i continued experimenting trying not to be biased and trying to be scientificand objective.


Since then i have moved country several times, the first timr i moved country, everything changed.
The projections just came to be so surreal to be true
A lot of my experiences have been quite 'scary' (dont really wanna use that word but it dumd tjings up quicker)

Now i try not to project but often find mysrlf popping out during the night and left feeling unerved.

So, thank you for the post because whether or not this us real or jyst a conjuring of our subconscious, i wsnt to fix it, do i can enjoy it again.

this post is just what i needed to read

may i ask a related question? if for the sake of it we say that alternate lives are real. would it be possible to transit through these lives, if the differences between thise lives are not too big?

its just that throughout my life if someo e asked me to explain my life , i would say that i feel as if i ve been transitting through lives, like a dufferent oerson. i know it sounds ridiculous.

i remember when i smoked weed one time and something haooened, i was sleeoing but it felt like i was flicking through hundreds of realities and i didnt know which one was real

meaning which one was my reality

i know it is crazy but i just thought i would share it

The best technique is the realisation that there is no technique. My flaw for years was trying different techniques and thinking that they would have a result.My success rate improved when I realised there was technique, only understanding.

I just lie down, give myself 5 minutes with my eyes closed and breath normally, in order to process the day and quite my thoughts and relax.
I then count from 1-10 and then back to 2 and then from two - 10 and so on - in order to give myself a fixed focus and to prevent my thoughts drifting.

I then just watch the blackness and try to be aware of changes in my state and body. After awhile sleep paralysis kicks in and then projection. If i don't project immediately, i will be woken in a dream and project from there.

It's not a technique, it's an understanding.

I've had something similiar. Sometimes I would be asleep but awake at the sametime and someone would be talking to me in my head- maybe it's just a string of my own thoughts but it feels external to myself, as if i'm being talked to, i reply in my head and at that time everything seems to fit together and i feel like i've found something life changing and then when i open my eyes, all the thoughts are gone and what i do remember makes no sense.

Is this the samething that you guys are talking about?

Whenever I project I can feel my brain move its really strange. Last time I projected "well i dunno how to describe it' but i kinda pushed eerything off of the table and the walls in my astral reality and i wanted to increase the energy but i felt if i continued my physical brain in my body would just malfunction.

Anyone else had any brain movements when projecting?

Which leads me to the different types of exits. when i first started the energy would build up from my legs and then increase at my head where i would hear the white noise and pop i was out. these were really realistic obes but then there are other exits where i just hear the noise or feel an intense feeling in my head and pop i'm out but these usually end in false awakenings are unreal scenarios in the aastral.

How can you control the type of exit and does the way you exit matter?

Lastly does the physical environment matter? when i was in england I projected and had realistic ap's of english scenario but in ukraine all of my ap's have felt very sinister and unreal. they always have ukrainian type landscapes in them too and i never dream of english landscape anymore.

I was thinking about chernyobl and i was wondering if radiation affects projection

Not with mirrirs but one time i had projected and rolled over because i wanted to see my body and i was scared because i seen myself with a weird kida disease andd i was possesed and evil. I know it was just my fantasy but it did scare me alot

I'm not quite sure Xanth but the question of free will vs destiny has been long contemplated in my head and now i have given up thinking about it.

However, I sometimes have premonitions in my dreams but they are very partial. Last time I dreamt that on my trip to Poland that I would loose contact with my wife and we would be distant, that i would be robbed and that i would be stuck there but i never really interpretted it correctly.

Because in the end i went to Poland and got drunk in a hotel, they threw me out and i got robbed and beat up and was hommeless there for 3 days. I had no contact with my wife because she was in Ukraine, as she had to leave early and my phone had been stolen.

I have had other such experiences.

If they are warnings or premonitions how can iit be changed if the action causing that chain of events can never be isolated and thus the consequences can't be prevented.

If the dreams were more "in context" maybe it could be changed but when i have these kind of dreams I feel like it was inevitable

No Still water,

the second type of exit which I describe leads to very surreal situations for example if it's dark outside it might be light and other things which discredit it's validity.

However the first type of exit i mentioned leads to more expected results like if i project at night it will be dark outside and other examples.

for example one time I got out of my body and for some reason i unexpectedly asked:- show me where I am from? and it took me over many forests down to a base which was guarded by a machine gun and the people there weren't aware of astral beings been there but i could see many infliitrating the base looking for something.

I know it sounds like a lucid dream but it had so many qualities of a projection and this is an example of type 2 exit that i mentioned.

I have been learning a lot though because at first i had difficulty landing when flying but now i kinda just use intention to land and take off as if there is some auto control rather than having to steer myself manually and sometimes i can say take me to..... or show me my past and there is like an unseen force or man that then speaks and shows me this sort of stuff. these are the projections that i think aren't real

True, but i already know that there are alternate realities so i don't why it's happening. I'm just afraid of getting lost in the alternate realities

Because i'm careless sometimes i might be walking along the road and the car slams its breaks in front of me or maybe in another instance i  will hit my head off of something.

so i continue walking down the street and because of all these false awakenings and understanding how fragile reality is......i get a thought.

"look behind you to make sure the car never ran you over and your not lying in the middle of the road dead"

so i turn around and check to make sure i haven't been killed without noticing it lol.


I dunno if this makes sense to you guys but i hope it does

Thanks Ryan,

Well my wife is from the eastern part bit the moment we are in Kiev which is far away from it.

Thanks szaxx but i'm not sure there is a point to the false awakenings. I think it's just a psyological occurence, an aftermath of projection. if there is a point i think the point would be to teach me to stay calm and neutral and not become all hysterical about the distortion of reality or reality itself.

Hey guys,

I have been registered here for many years now but I haven't been active in the last year and a half because I relocated to Ukraine, Kyiv from Britain,Newcastle.


Nice to see you all again. I hope the forum is still active as it use to be.

Finally I would like to ask if anyone here is Ukrainian or living in Ukraine? Although I highly doubt it.

See you guys around the forum

Hi,

Sometimes it gets a bit frightening.
I somehow project and then I return to my body and think I'm awake. Everything seems so real. The texture of the bed, the wood. The room looks perfectly normally and then I wake my wife up beside me and she acts perfectly as I expect her too but all the while I'm still asleep and this has all just been a false awakening.

So, I try to wake myself up and there I am again in the same scenario until I realise I'm still asleep and this can happen 10 times a night and it makes me feel trapped as if I am starting to loose touch with reality and as if reality is just temporary perception.

Somehow I always wake myself up.

What this has led to is a:) the appriciation of how powerful the subconscious mind is because I suppose those whole scenarios were fabrications of my subconsciousness. B:) a contingency plan to somehow wake me up from my dream.


Ok, so setting an alarm to go off 3 hours after you go to bed can prevent this problem but I have been looking for other tecniques such as when I wake up I would say to my wife "am I dreaming". I told her to say "strawberries" if I'm not dreaming.

So, I begin to have false awakenings and I say "am I dreaming" and my wife says "strawberries" so I thought great am not dreaming.
but I was dreaming. some how my subconscious intergrates every contingency plan or idea i have to prevent false awakening into my false awakenings so it's impossible to tell if i'm dreaming.


has anyone got any ideas how A:) use these false awakening to my full advantage, B:) find an exit method to wake up from them?

Has anyone experienced something like this?

Sometimes I can even project from these false awakenings

I have had many years experience at projection. I have noticed that there is different types of projection which is dependant on the exit.

Firstly, there is the projection exit where before i project i get vibrations running up my legs and all the way to my head before pop....exit.

These usually result in RTZ projections and i believe these are real however I still havent seen enough valid evidence to prove this.

Secondly, there is the projection where i just get vibrations in my head and pop...i'm out. Sometimes I can even feel parts of my brain move when I pop out. Ironically I searched up the part of the brain that I feel moving and it's the Amygalda which is closely linked to projection.

These kind of projections result in very surreal but not higher realm projections. more like lucid dreams.

Has anyone else experienced different exit symptoms which result in different types of projections?

I'm not saying I disbelieve in projection. I'm just saying there is no validation for it for instance when I project it might be night but in my projection it's day. On the other hand when I lived in england I use to project into my local city but now that I have moved to Ukraine I project into the ukrainian environment which does have some validation.

Either way, I don't care if these projections are my psycholoigcal problems or something with a more spiritual meaning because either way I enjoy them

Hey guys,

I haven't posted for a long while but I have been accumulating my questions and experiences till I had time to post them.

Here is one of the questions in relation to my experiences.

Every now and then I will be mediating and pretty much as soon as I start meditating I will get imagery behind my eyelids while still awake and lying in bed and fully conscious.

Usually, it's just an everyday mundane scnery such as a man and a woman cooking in the kitchen and I'm watching them.

What is this?

Thanks

Not only is it about the constraints of language but its also about misunderstandings in relation to ideology and because of the overlay of modern BS that gives people the impression that we are all loony. For instance modern tv shows ghosts and vampires and cults start pretending they can do black magic and then to top it all off everyone knows people whom are bullied at school and go around pretending they  hear god or that they can read minds and we are associated with these types of idiots so of course nobody will take us serious until we can show society that we are a scientific based belief system whom are not blindly believing nor dismissing the religous significance of projection but instead we are pioneers, explorers trying to uncover what it is that we are experiencing

I don't bel;ieve in aliens or anything else. I'm not crazy but this is just a question that I have been wondering for awhile.
Does anyone see different shades of darknbess within the darkness and some of the darkness moves as if it is different from the other darkness around it.

Hi Guys,

I haven't posted on here for a while. I just wanted to addd to this topic.

Sometimes I can see through my closed eyelids but mostly it's not my room. I end up seeing another scene while lying in bed conscious.

What's this? Is it like phasing?

Root:   under-active   (-12%)
Sacral:   open   (25%)
Navel:   open   (25%)
Heart:   under-active   (0%)
Throat:   open   (12%)
Third Eye:   open   (25%)
Crown:   open   (19%)

Root:   under-active   (0%)
Sacral:   under-active   (0%)
Navel:   open   (12%)
Heart:   under-active   (6%)
Throat:   open   (12%)
Third Eye:   open   (62%)
Crown:   open   (62%)

Root:   under-active   (-12%)
Sacral:   open   (38%)
Navel:   open   (38%)
Heart:   under-active   (6%)
Throat:   open   (38%)
Third Eye:   open   (38%)
Crown:   open   (44%)

Good post I enjoyed reading everyones input but despite our belief that the spider has will power to enable the Loa ect ect Do insects feel emotion or pain:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Entomology-Study-Bugs-665/insects-feel-pain.

Do they know what they want or have 'a plan'? if not then how can the spider will something using willpower if they dont know what they want? can spiders even think?

Maybe larger animals can make use of Loa but I think still water was right when she mentioned the phermones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider#Methods_of_capturing_prey

I also liked reading about the paralell realities

Thanks NOY and everyone

Thanks dotster what did you think of the film?

@pauli thats what I thought at first

@szaxx thanks for sharing that post

@volgerle thanks for sharing that information and it looked like that

@xanth was the blue thing you seen the same as this? how did you feel about it?

Question: Did anybody enter this and if not why? did you feel anxious too? if you did enter what happened? is it possible to enter it?