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I beleive that the earth will go through a physiological change. shifting, and changing. theres already proof of this. drought, flooding. I know where im at it rains more then it ever has since ive lived here. and ive ben here for 20 and up years. this is causing moss to grow in places it shouldnt, and bugs/insects etc to thrive and grow bigger. I also beleive that war is in the future, we will be in a battle for survival. wether it be with our selfs or nature. it could be a world war etc. I also have a feeling that aliens etc will come forth. wether it be for war, help or to take over. to me, atlantis was like us. advanced,power hungry and all of the above. the earth went through a change and eliminated most life on earth(just theory). then we started all over again, but evolved in a diffrent way. only time will tell, but theres patterns all over the place. 2012 will not be just some changing of energy but a catastrophive event. imo of course.

Hmm so do OBE's feel like lucid dreams then? I couldn't even pass through the door, I had to open it...I thought in AP's you can walk through things...

Also I felt like I wasn't wearing any clothes when I was upstairs...do we wear clothes in the astral? Though at one point a big part of my arm was missing and from the corner of my eye it did not like a normal arm...kind of blue/white I think (really not sure). Plus I didn't see my body laying anywhere, but then again I didn't turn round to try and find it :S

I had a accidental obe once, the only one ive ever had so far. but I was realy tired that day and layed down on my side in my bed. well first the door bell rang and jerked me out of dosing off. then my phone rang, again right when i was dozing off. the third time I fell asleep, I remember the first images and thoughts where of me standing inbetween two pine trees. the trees only had pine needles on the top half of them.I never get hurt in a dream, but this time I could feel the pine needles poking my feet, so i kept my balance lightly by holding on to the two trees.
  well after that thought, I think I was asking my self if this is astral projection. and I sat up in  my bed. it was strange, everything was like in real life. it was clear as day, everything was the same etc. well i then layed back down,I remember thinking is this a dream?am i waking up in a dream? but I sat back up.I then layed back down and for some reason kept sitting back up. the last time of sitting up I realized I couldnt get back in my body. I could see  my self lying there but at the same time new I was sitting up. I tryed getting up but it wasnt possible for some reason .I then remembered people saying to grasp the wall etc. so i leaned back and touched the wall with my head. for some reason my body felt limpish so i fell back and kinda scrape my head all along the wall. I then wok up. I remember feeling as if  I had a body high or something during this instence.
  anyways my point would be, for that moment everything was clear,  clear enough to where I did not know for a while if i was dreaming or awake.

Our mind splits when we project. leaving our consious mind and allowing our projected mind to wonder. so technically our mind leaves the body but it doesnt. but for the most part they energy mind leaves the body when projecting.

hello, well I have a healing request. Ive got chronic eczema, ive had it since I was 8 or 9. I get it everywhere and I get it bad. when it realy flares up I can barly make a fist because my skin is so tight and dry. my skin will crack open and bleed. it takes months to heal a crack in my skin because they just keep crackin over and over again. I have it on my hands and feet bad right now. Ive had it all over my body over the years. legs,feet,toes,arms,face,etc. Ive had staph infection 3 times because of this stuff. And I shed like crazy, just moving my fingers together I can see flakes of skin falling off. I was curious if anyone could help heal it. Im not sure how healing works, but ive tryed every lotion, steroid cream etc possible and I still have this stuff. I know eczema cannot be cured but hopefully someone can help me control this stuff.

I have dreams in amazing detail all the time. I know their lucid dreams but I just cant figure out how to not "play" along with the dreams. its like a movie kind of, I can act on my own and do my own thing. but it goes along with the scenario. apposed to stoping and realizing I can do what ever to change the dream.

its only happened to me a few times. not exactly whats going on with you. but in a deep trance state I will think a word randomly through the silence and it slips out verbaly on its own. saying a word without taking the steps or thoughts twards speaking. it also happens with hand movement. if I think of moving my arm, without visualizing it. just meditating in a trance state my arm will jerk up, without me actually moving it.

that sounds complicated. If I had the resources I would build one of these for sure!

interesting, I pondered this question for a long while. what I came up with is.....we have 2 minds, astral and physical(that I know of). soo when we die, or are killed our physical mind of storage is gone. but we have our astral mind that takes over and allows us to remember. simply because its made of energy. but (to me) when we come back, lets say a energy form is "re-enjected" into the physical realm. as sperm in a human body. they have no physical memory, there for we cannot remember what happens before birth. just my thought of it.

its natrual. I visualize alot during the day, often they will go from good thoughts to harming someone, or protecting myself from a harmfull person etc.

I had a few strange dreams last night. the first one, I was in the mountains with my family. deep in the colorado mountains, almost like we where hiding or something. but we were in this log cabin/house it was a two story. I remember being on the second story, we hiked to this place. well then there were aliens. strange ones.  I remember seing a giant mechanical alien tentacle rising up past a mountain top, it receded and later on there was these giant alien rinoes that were in the front of the house. it was awsome but strange. so much more happend that I do not remember or is too detailed to even go into explaination.
  the second dream I was in the plaza place. it was almost like a mall/dojo. the area I was in was where kung fu was being taught. there was this platform, raised and all around it was these test tubes. and  in the test tubes were people hooked up to virtual reality devices on their heads. and I mean there were tons of these tubes, some where empty some where accupyed. they were learning bruce lee's style of kung fu. well I was walking around looking at these things, I hand no shirt on and did not know kung fu at all.
well next thing I know I see bruce lee, he was training and doing his kung fu moves. all of a sudden he goes crazy with it and starts moving around the area while doing his moves. busting these test tubes, glass would shatter and the ones in the tubes that were broke didnt move at all other then to act out their VR moves.
well from me seeing these people in the tubes I learned kung fu instantly.I started doing them and was god at it. bruce recited to his practice area again and was calm. well there was this kid there, he had to of ben atleast 13. I talked to him shortly and walked away, but when I came back it was like i was gone for years. every thing was the same, but he seemed like he learned alot. weel we were scheduled to fight. and it was a good fight indeed. it was a vary strange dream.

I know I havnt had an obe, but when im relaxing and my hands are still I can feel as if my fingers are moving. either going up and down or moving side to side. but I can feel all of them moving, not at the same time but simaltaniously. whenever I feel it I think my hand just isnt relaxed enough and i move my hand and the feeling goes away, until I relax them again.

Ive got many books on ap, and a many of robert bruces books. one of his is a 90 day program to astral projecting. if anybody is interested let me know. and I mean a ton of books. ive also got a ton on lucid dreaming if anybody wants them.

I read some where once. it gave a good example of the thought form of dreaming. basicly we are computers, when we dream our minds render a 3d map and suroundings through a connection. this is what we see and experience in the dream world, when we astral project. we can connect with others. so instead of just our 3d map, we have manny connections from each person wich puts together its own peice of the 3d rendered map. kinda like bit torrents. many pieces being gathered from Every one to create a whole, complete piece.

Well I usually during the day, being unemployed at the moment i get realy tired. so I take a nap during the afternoon. well this day I was realy realy tired. I layed down and kept getting interupted while in a deep sleep. well the last time I layed back down, I remember dozing off. I saw my self in a small forest patch. inbetween two pine trees wich had the bottoms cleared of pine branches. I remeber looking down while catching my balance with the trees. my feet where hurting. ive never felt pain in a dream before. I was steping on pine needles and it hurt.
well right after that my mind went to a diffrent senerio. all I saw was a sky blue mixing bowl, and some material in it. i remember at the same time I was thinking of my hands filddling each other. I was thinking "so I need to be doing stuff to astral project". right after that thought I sat up on my bed. I then layed back down, i then sat back up again. it almost felt like waking up in a dream multiple times. the last time I sat up I realized I couldnt lay back down in my body. I knew I was laying down, but I couldnt lay back into me. I felt strange, real light...
the only way to explain it is I felt like having a body high off of shrooms. I couldnt tell if this was real, so I did the only thing I could do. as I couldnt stand up or lay back down. I fell back , and kind of rubbed my head against the wall. I could feel the wall against my head. all of a sudden I woke up. this was realy strange, and the first time it happend to me. just thought I would share.

thanks for the replys! so there is no parasites? even in the astral plain? well its going to be hard convincing him, but Ill try. I know when he was younger he was realy into black magic, pendulums spells etc. so im sure thats where alot of his "demons" come from. he says he can litteraly feel them following him. im sure if I can get to the point of being able to ap at will or often  he wouldnt mind practicing to achieve it. will see what I can do to help/convince him. exspecialy with his luck and what not..

alright, Im in to the astral projection and obe, chakras etc. ive never successfully ap. but I practice twards it. my brother does not realy beleive in it, but knows its there because I keep him up to date. Now my bro has had evil entitys lached on to him all his life. he was just explaining it, I dont think he was sleeping. but he said he saw a black silouete, it was dark but he could still see a black siloete of someone. he said its like the haunted horror movies that have ben comming out but he cant actually see anything there but the shadow. my thought is its a parasite in the astral plain feeding off of him or something. my bro has had bad luck in every situation hes had. is there a way to get rid of this? also will he be harmed in the ap? he doesnt mind trying it, but he is scared he has demons fallowing him.

thanks for the replys. I think im going to have my friend stay over and attempt a...aobe.(assisted out of body experience.) I might have to try that in my dream. im free to say what ever I want inmy dreams. so i will give it a shot.

Ummm, I don't think you will see anything by watching someone going OOB (assuming you're thinking you would actually see the individuals Etheric or Astral Body seperating from their Physical Body).

yea, it probly wouldnt do anything for me. although I have read that you can actually see a dim silver/gray entity if you observe some one going into an obe. I read it in robert bruce's astral dynamics book.

interesting, how whould you suggest I go about an obe? almost every method I read about consists of lying in bed focusing on the blackness untill you feel vibes. then trying to project your energy. I even tryed the easy obe method that was posted. Ill have to find it for you, but attempted it with no luck.I cannot have lucid dreams. even when I know im dreaming Im stuck in it. I can do stuff, walk here and there talk to cool people etc. but cannot control it enough to stop it for a obe. I dont know if its the type of person I am or what. I can do anything, but I have to see it done before I can completly do it. so im not sure if I have to watch someone while their sleeping go into a obe or astral project or what. or maybe Im not trying hard enough. I just want to travel the stars, travel the universe through AP. but it seems close to impossible to get there. last night I stayed still for a good hour or so, focusing on the black. my mind would drift in and out and my body would feel kinda tingly. but it went away after a while, so I just went to bed. im not sure if my mind drifting was me sleeping awake or what. but I will continue reading info and try progressing somehow...

ive got a friend who is realy good at AP and having obes. is there a way they can help me AP? I have had no luck. I can lye there and feel nothing for hours. the first 3 times I had lye in bed trying this I got vibrations etc. now its nothing. can I have my friend sleep near me and provoke a obe or ap?

interesting. thats what shined me into looking at AP and OBE. I saw a show of people who when undergoing surgery would die on the table with out the doctors knowing. and how they said they could hover above and see the doctors opperating on them. then I saw a science show, and they where talking about kenetic energy in the human body and how kenetic energy cannot be destroyed or die. there for our energy takes us somewhere else. I was just curious of how dmt interferes or reacts with obe etc.

lol, funny. I have chronic eczema so staying still my skin feels like its crawling.so a test indeed, I also for some damned reason, my mouth waters like crazy so I have to swallow every couple a minutes. that only happens when I lye completely still.

I know im a vary vivid person wether it be lying in bed or awake. sometimes I can see life times pass through my head in a matter of seconds. the only time I ever had a vivid experience as yours awake, is when I was sick and on medicine. I beleive it was a Dxm trip I was having. I traveled through the stars and to other planets. saving life and seeing it destroyed, all in a matter of a half hour. it was extremly epic....im not sure what you saw, maybe it was a vivid visualization of some sort?

so the brain produces DMT wich is the most powerfull hallucinagen on earth. now the brain produces the most before death, and in near death experiences and during rem stages of sleep. so when your in rem sleep and are having lucid dreams,and obe how do we know its not part of the trip? or that a obe ap is just us using this chemical? im just curious. theres much about the brain that we cant explain, science seems to conflict with experience and spirituality as it always will....(spell check is not working for me, so sorry for the misspelled words..)

I have heared you can explore the universe through AP. that is my goal once I have reached an obe AP. edger kacy(probly spelled wrong) could reach into this and gain awnsers for accurate predictions. as well as knowlege of the stars. im a firm beleiver that the miyans where into AP to gain advanced knowlege of star systems... as they where expert astronamers.

with enough meditation yea.  your born with your body and grow up with it, so trying seperate from your body takes alot of mental preperation. if you try lying there and going numb and project your mind eventually you will have an obe and AP. ive had no luck so far but have had some interesting feelings when attempting this, its just a matter of time before it happens.