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How soon is it possible to step into contact with a deceased person while OBE, and is there a period one should wait for that person to settle in before contact is attempted?
Can anyone tell me based on their experiences? I would like to try it out soon.

Thank you for your responses.

Lucid_Dreamer

Last night I had a couple of dreams, one of them became lucid. I tried to use that to initiate vibrations to get to the OBE like I did once before. And sure enough I started feeling vibrations. However, these were very weak compared to what I've experienced before while seperating. I also did not experience the pressure in my ears and the sound associated with that while seperating. Nevertheless, I felt the vibrations subside and thought that now I could use the rollover method because I've never used it before. I felt somewhat weak as I exited the body and there was a weird feeling assoicated to my passing through the bedsheets. I stood up and tried looking at my digital clock next to the bed, but I could not clearly see all the numbers. It was too dark. I then moved to my window and put my head through it to look at the backyard. Then I flew down very close to the grass and also high up into a tree. I couldn't see clearly, so I requested "clarity now", only to realize that I had my reading glasses on, so I took them off and continued without giving it much thought. Then I looked back at my building and decided to fly through a neighboring building. Surprisingly enough, a neighbor was sitting in his room, but he could not see me. This was all happening at night, yet when I woke up, it was morning and the sun was shining.
That night I did not cover myself with the bedsheets but just lay on my bed. I woke up the same way (so i could not have passed through the sheets after seperation). I always leave a sort of night-light on so that I can clearly see my room while OBE at night. I also don't wear glasses unless I'm reading or working on my comp. The grass was not mossy as I had experienced it, but normal. And finally, if I were OBE, I could not have seen the neighbor in his room, if he were awake, right?
All this I thought about after I woke up, and I came to the conclusion that this was a fake OBE in another lucid dream. []

Has anyone experienced something similar to this? What is a way to know if one is getting the real deal when using LDs to seperate?
This was very frustrating because I was sooooo excited about getting my third OBE so far. [V]

Truly,
Lucid_Dreamer

If it is in fact true that all living things posess a non-physical body with which they will inhabit the afterlife world, is it possible that then there will be the same problems with the same people in the Astral dimensions such as war and cruelty? Has anyone witnessed these occurences in their travels and experiences?
I would like to open up a discussion to see and hear what you may have experienced or think about this topic.
Is it possible that there is such thing as astral wars? Good vs. Evil in the truest sense?

I am new to the OBEs and I need a bit of help and guidance from people who are more efficient and experienced with OBEs.

So far I have had two OBEs. Both lasted about 10 seconds each. After the vibrations I was successful at separation, but was unable to establish clarity or control. I used the techniques described in "Adventures Beyond The Body" by William Buhlman and tried saying commands such as "clarity now" and also "control now" but was unsuccessful at creating neither.

When I willed myself towards the ceiling, I went at a higher speed than I wanted and I saw my room from above (in 360 degree vision; extremely weird). I thought "stop" and I did stop. Then everything went dark. I thought of my body and felt the vibrations again. Then, I was bouncing in and out of my body because I would feel the vibrations, then they would go away, then I would feel them again about four times, all within a period of about one minute until I finally woke up in a dream (non-lucid but very vivid). Has anyone had such an experience and is there a better way of coming back? What other techniques are there for control and clarity?

Also, I don't know how to initiate the vibrational state. In my first OBE I used a Lucid Dream to get to the OBE, and the second time I felt myself sinking into my bed and recognized this as a pre-occurence to an OBE and that's how I started feeling the vibrations. I used the techniques from the book I mentioned above, like to repeat to yourself as you are falling asleep that "I am now Out-of-body" until your body goes to sleep. But it has not worked. I usually give up after a half hour because I get sore from laying on my back. Are there better techniques? Please share!!!

One more question. What is the best HemiSync CD to listen to to initiate OBEs?

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSES. IN ADVANCE!!!

Why do anything in life?
Curiosity, maybe?
As long as there's a will, there's a way.
Peeps here are willing, and finding ways to do it, too. []

Lucid_Dreamer

Hey, Finn, thanks for sharing.
It is fascinating to hear about other people's experiences. Please, share more as soon as you have them!
I just have one question. You mention that you also hear voices and see things while in your body. Once you get into OBE state, do you still hear and/or see those?

Lucid_Dreamer

I had two experiences with sleep paralysis. During both I've heard voices. The first time the voice of a female went from above my bed, through my head, and disappeared into the pillow. She said, "My name is...Lisa." and the second one I've heard a male voice saying "What, what?" to me as I felt something shaking me by my shoulder. I was horrified.
So I'm thinking that sleep paralysis is a half way to being an OBE.
Anybody have their experiences to share???

Does anyone know how to make the OBEs longer? I've had the same troubles as you, sweet_celestial_clouds, so I was wondering if there are techniques out there that can help us achive that.

I've heard of OBEers to have fought battles (sparring or otherwise) with non-human creatures while OB. I was told that they can't hurt you, so it's OK even if they are around, I guess.
Anyone know better?

Today I've ordered the HemiSync "Super Sleep" CD which also has nothing but Delta on it. Has anybody tried it yet? Any success?
I will keep you updated if I have success with it and even if i don't.

You guys were right, whatever it was, it was a lot of phun!
I have, however, heard from a friend that every person is hovering a couple of feet above their bodies while sleeping. Is that true? And if so, if i were OBE, would i be able to see the spiritual bods of other sleeping folk?

Have you ever had a lucid dream? If you did, then you can use that to initiate the vibrations. I am a beginner also, but once I had a lucid dream, and the instant you become lucid, you tell yourself that you want to be out of body. Immediately, you will start feeling vibrations and your lucid dream scene will disappear and you will find yourself awake in your room.

The vibrations will become more and more intense, and the first time, I was almost freaked out about the intensity (just like you, I've never felt such an thing before, especially not that powerful). But no fear, just remain still and let the vibrations flow. You will hear a sound like a bang, or maybe feel pressure in your ears and the sounds associated with that. It's like when you are flying in an airplane and the pressure in your ear escapes. That's what I've been experiencing. That sound will announce your total seperation, and the vibrations will disappear. You are now ready to go. Just think to yourself "I want to touch the ceiling" or "I want to fly towards the ceiling" and you will do it.

Make sure you don't think about your body, because that will force you back into it. This is a common mistake made by starters (believe me I know). But if you are ready to return, that's all you have to do.

You may experience unusual vision. My first time I had 360 degree vision, which was extremely unusual but cool. If you can't see clearly try telling yourself "clarity now" or "control now" if you can't control where you are going. Those two things haven't yet worked for me, but they may be helpful to you.

Keep us updated!

Sincerely,
Lucid_Dreamer

It depends on what you mean by what it "first" feels like. If you are referring to the vibrations during seperation, then you should feel very intense vibrations throughout your whole body. Also, most people experience a noise, or a bang, or something around their head area when total seperation occurs.
If you are referring to the feeling of post-seperation, then as far as I know based on my own experiences, there is no feeling, except that of weightlessness.

Sincerely
Lucid_dreamer

Thank you two for your responses. They should make my experiences smoother and more memorable.[]

I assumed that mental clarity was the key to success from the beginning, and unfortunately, that takes time. I've have tasted my two OBEs and now I am hungry for more.[]
I guess there is no way around it but to practice, practice, practice. But that's OK, as long as the end result is to my satisfaction.[^]

I will try the rollout or stand-up method the next time I accidently have an OBE (unless I master the skill by then; LOL) and will keep you up to date, sweet_celestial_sounds. I can't wait to hear if you were successful with the Hemisync CD you mentioned here.

Thank you, Frank, for also explaining to me what was going on during my reentry. I was starting to get worried about why I didn't just reenter my body like the first time: smoothly and then immediately waking up. Now I understand the situation a bit better.