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Hello Ampzeit. This site is great, great advice and interesting topics. Are you trying to AP? Any luck with it? What are you about?

Astrowytch 

Hello Stimpy. Well you have definatley come to the right place! I am relatively new here and have had some great advice from CF T raveler. I followed the advice and had a fantastic experience which i can now build on. Hope you enjoy your time here, there will be good advice forthcoming.  Good luck with your AP.

Astrowytch x 

Hello there. I havent achieved a conscious one yet but sure I will soon! looking forward to reading your posts. Astrowytch x

Yeah thanks CF Traveler. What do you mean about energy work? I am currently working with horned god energy, chanting, alter etc. Found horned deer skull in woods toolast week! I experienced kundalini back in my 20's, same light, arousal, etc. and it propelled me into exploring the mysteries, etc. but have been dithering about for years trying practises, having spiritual experiences but doing nothing about it particurly...more like a hobby. I find myself taking all this very seriously now...have peace and quiet at home..oldest child just left etc.. have been working on my chakras if thats what you mean. I use quartz crystal to enhance the energy I raise, one I found in southern ireland in some cliff sediment. Actually I found lots but this one is beautiful and was definatly a gift from spirit. I sort of see it like a shamans horse/drum. I once had a spontaneous ap while using it during healing. That scared me. Last night I placed it on my sacral chakra while I was in med. do you think it helped? was it cause of arousal? I usually place it on my third eye chakra or base chakra. What do you think?

hello everyone. Last night while trying to astral project (have been practising) I had a very strange experience. CF Traveller had given me some very good advice about getting out of my body as I am having difficulty with this. CF had described a method where on every in breath you imagine yourself filling up like a balloon and filling the room and then deflating again as you out breath. I got myself to the hypnagogic stage and began the balloon process. I was experiencing body paralysis and vibrations throughout me which I'm very used to but was not expecting the huge sensation which came next. On every in breath I felt myself slowly filling up with light which was ok but i became aware that i was getting slightly aroused. How, when I am experiencing physical paralysis? It was sort of in and around me!!? I carried on breathing through this but on every in breath the feeling became stronger and I felt that I was sparkly light and could see a bright light, I was light! Also the sensation was creeping up my body and was getting stronger on every in breath to the point that i thought i was going to explode with it. In a nice way of course!!! And guess what....I got worried and opened my eyes. In true astrowytch scaredy cat style. I felt very strange for a while, like really spacey and glowing and had to eat to ground myself. I could kick myself this morning. I felt like at the point of explosion I would have launched out of my body. Has anybody else felt this sort of inner arousal during the process of astral p. and could it have been kundalini because it did seem to creep up my innerbody/chakras on every in breath. it was amazing!!! thankyou CF Traveler xxxxxxxx

Hello CF Traveller and thankyou for your advice. I like the sound of the balloon method and am going to try tonight. Ive tried the roll out method and I ve tried raising the hands of astral body and the feet. I have tried loosening myself by wriggling side to side as well. I can kind of feel it as well. if I try to do this in waking consciousness as I 'm sitting now I can feel nothing. A few nights ago I did really well and felt as if I was floating just above my body. Actually I know I was. This exit business is really tricky isn't it. LOL. Ive tried saying "clarity please" in my head in the hope that my astral eyes will open but nothing. I sometimes can see with my eyes closed when I've been laying in bed nearly asleep I guess and that is weird the first time. I was shocked. I am so dying to experience standing outside of myself. I will keep trying and use the balloon method later. Will let you know what occurs. Wish me luck! xx

Hi Kingal. If you are trying this when you get in from work and are that tired you will fall asleep. try it during times when you are not tired and maybe concentrate on some soft music. Do you do this in your bedroom on your bed? In your mind your bedroom is the place for sleep and sleep would come naturally. So try doing this in another room where you dont sleep. everyone is different so experiment, see what works for you. I always do it in my bedroom, mainly cos I have children and my room is my sanctuary. When I started trying ap and understood about the hypnagogic state I had trouble getting into that state but found that actually getting into bed as if I were going to sleep helped to trick my body into sleep. I eventually reached the hypanagogic state in that way! Now I know, I dont get into the bed anymore but lay on top of it. So you see its different for everyone. keep trying and experimenting. good luck. sorry... also it took a good hour or so for me to slip into hypnagogic state at first but now sometimes its only 20 mins. Less chance of falling asleep as the process gets integrated and easier.

Hello ancient one and thanks for your reply. It really helps to know that somenone else has experienced the same. All I can do is keep trying then! I had a spontaneous one years ago during a crystal healing session and found myself some where else, briefly. I was standing in front of a row of beings with huge round eyes. They seemed really cold and devoid of any emotions and I felt that if I didnt get out of there I would never get away. I also felt that they were questioning me. probably because I just appeared in front of them! Maybe the coldness I felt was cold fear because I had just flipped out of my body to another place. I dont know. But when I came back i had electrical impulses soaring through my body and it took ages to feel right again. I also could see their eyes in my mind for ages.My thoughts on that place at the time were that it was more real than here! The colours of the place were vivid and more clear cut. hard to explain but it made me realise that this isnt the only place, plane whatever. during my 20's I used to wake up often in SP and would see/hear all sorts of strange things in my bedroom. I now know that I was probably having obe's but of course did not know what these were then. The experiences I have had led me to research it all and now I would like to conciously control it. Will keep you all posted during my attempts!

Hello there. How are you doing? I have moon in taurus also, but I'm gemini. i have scorpio rising though. Its a bit of a combination gemini/scorpio to have in ya natal chart. gemini is usually quite shallow but my scorpio bit over shadows me and I get really deep about stuff. Am very into the occult and live in a witchy/shamanic world. I collect bones. The last one I found was this week in the local forest. It is a deer skull with little horns. I'm currently working with Horned God energy so it was an amazing find/gift which now has pride of place on my alter. You sound larger than life and that you might be a bit interesting. Mmmm.  I see you like purple, me too. Hope to chat sometime.

hello Timandra thanks for your welcome. Nice to make contact with someone! Are you trying to obe then? I have done it once by accident years ago and it scared me very much as I didn't know what was happening. Years later i began to meditate as I felt it was the next step in my spiritual growth as have read a million books and felt could learn no more from them and had to turn inwards instead. Through the med. I realised that i was having sensations that I didnt expect, explored them and realised that i was nearly projecting. again it scared me and put me off meditating. i'm back to it now and trying to obe. Look forward to hearing from you again. Where are you from, I'm from england. Am mother to two grown up kids and have 2 year old granddaughter. I was working as a teacher but am working with plants now on a farm. I love it....they don't argue, just grow!!!

Hello Invoke. I'm new here too. it sounds to me like you are the perfect candidate for meditation. It will really help with all your confusion from your childhood. It will still your mind, stop all that negative chatter that goes on within you. meditation helps to get everything into perpective and raises your energy levels. It becomes a very peaceful practise and I think from what you have described in your earleir post you really need to do this. It takes time to train your mind to shut up during med. and you have to keep on with it. take 10 mins a day to start with, if stray thoughts come into your head observe them and let them go. It will take lots of practise so keep with it. Eventually you will relax quicker and the thoughts will reduce in content. it took me about 2 months of doing it every evening before I managed to stop all the chatter. I still get stray thoughts but they don't get my attention anymore. Eventually you will be able to astral project, eveyone can do it. granted some folks find it easier than others but it is all about sticking with it and being determined. You will find that your outlook on life will improve and you will be more relaxed and energised. Don't try to rush things, take it easy and enjoy the process. x let us know how you get on. You could try making sacred space before you meditate. Light some joss, light a candle, soft music etc. make the time completely special for your self and you will find that you will begin to enjoy and slide straight into the process with some practise. x

Hello again. Think about the type of people who use trance. ie mediums, shamans etc. trance is just another level of consiousness. Have you seen some scary things when you are in trance then? whatever you have seen has come from you. Sometimes I see faces. Some good some really scary! basically you are awake of sorts and in control. I often wonder if the faces I see are past lives of mine. Who knows? The thing is if you meditate for long enough ( time scale different for everyone) you will experience body paralysis no doubt. If you can't handle that yet then don't meditate for too long. Gradually you will get used to the feeling. I was scared at first cos the sensations were all new to me. Maybe you are seeing scary things because you are scared at the onset of med. I don't know. But to avoid paralysis don't med for too long. x

sleep paralysis and trance are not the same thing. Shamans, voodoo practicioners etc.all use the trance state but of course they are moving and dancing so they are not paralysed. African tribe members use dance to bring on the trance state. Sleep paralysis occurs when your mind wakes up from sleep but your body hasn't and if your'e not used to that it is scary. Body paralysis occurs during meditation because the body has gone to sleep and the mind is still awake. In this process of paralysis we are aware, awake and in control...not so scary as when you wake up paralyised. The first time it happened to me I excrement myself, I didnt know what was happening to me. Now I meditate to bring on obe and I'm not scared of the paraysis as it is necessary for obe. Hope that helps. x

Hello I'm new to this forum. I have come here for some guidance and to share experiences with fellow travellers. Maybe make some friends?  I'm having some problems with leaving my body behind even though I am dying to travel. I have been seriously practising this for months now but with a large break in between because I nearly left my body and it really scared me. The sensations I experienced were new to me and very scary! Thus i stopped meditating for ages for fear it would happen again. Stupid eh?! I have now started again because I had a dream where I was taken by an indian man who had been trying to contact me for ages he said, but I kept brushing him off. He told me he was there to help me astral travel, which he then did. I realised during the atral travel practising with him that the energy where we were had changed and was fully aware within the dream that it was coming to an end which it did. I woke up. I also saw someone called "moonface", who did actually have a moonface. I already knew him in the dream! Because of this dream it has spurred me on again and I have been meditating again. What scares me is the sensations I experience. First I start to vibrate which is ok I can handle that, then I realise that my body is going to sleep because my face starts to feel as if it were made of stone and very taught. Then i experience a very deep sinking feeling that seems to go on for ages. I think that is my body totally falling asleep. Then I begin to here wooshing in my ears? head? where? and I seem to move forward very quickly in the dark? void?  This is as far as I have gotten so far as it always scares me and I open my eyes. There have been other sensations like my body swaying from side to side like a snake. The feeling that my body is no longer lying flat but contorted and twisted and in different positions. What i would like to know is what happens after the sensations of whooshing in yer head and the travelling forward very fastly? Can i just launch out of my bod cos that's what it feels like is going to happen so I open my eyes. Please help me.