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just found this... http://s13.zetaboards.com/Astral_Journey/topic/6598981/1/

I have the same problem as Palooza and Missym. I know how to astral project, I just can't get the right mindset. As I've mentioned before, when i try to project, it feels as if something is pulling and pushing my legs with strong power.

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Has anyone investigated them in the astral plane yet?

I didn't want to start a new post about this, but when i try to astral project, i feel very strong pulling and pushing of my legs. What could it be?

What exactly are you requiring protection from?

~Ryan

I'm not requiring protection from anything? Someone who projects should check out the Green Eyes Society...

http://s13.zetaboards.com/Astral_Journey/topic/6575646/1/

Good find. Any frequent projector want to investigate?

Haven't been here for a while, but I just decided to bump my favorite thread and see if anyone has more information.

Very powerful stuff Tayesin

Thank you i guess unconditional love conquers all i will definitely keep that in mind. must be hard to give these guys love though. Here are some questions about your experience. Where you dealing with the hat man or the shadow beings?
Where did you see him in dream or awake? Did he talk to you did he touch you?
Did he attack you did he follow you? Did he hide or did he want you to see him? Do you think these guys
are human souls or do they recruit human souls? Do you think they are lower astral entities or maybe ets?
Why do you think he was attracted to you or was it random? Do you think they can physically harm you  I know they feed on negative emotions
hate,anger,and fear. Did he have glowing red eyes? Sorry to bombard you with questions like this.
Basically i want to hear the whole story or as much as you can remember.

I was walking through the hall in my house when in the corner of my eye, all of the hall behind me turned very bright for half a second or so. No one else was home. I decided to get some fresh air so i go sit outside when i notice from the corner of my eye again, a sort of creature, approximately 5.7, white and grey, and "spikey" or "rigid", as soon i looked it was gone, so what happened?  Is it possible it was a shadow man or does anyone know any other creature it could have been?

I don't know much about cryptozoology, but I do live in Michigan, where the dog man has been (supposedly) sighted.

This guy:

There is also the legend of the Melonheads, children with giant heads, that like to kill. That legend is in Connecticut and Michigan and Ohio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melon_heads 

This doesn't really have much to do with projection, but has anyone seen or heard of the pope lick monster? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Lick_Monster

Or... any of the following: Melonheads, mothman, Lizardman, Goatman, OwlMan, Flatwoods Monster, Bigfoot, Nessie, or anything along those lines?

This is kinda strange.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/significance_of_green_eyes_and_other_odd_things-t242.0.html#lastPost

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/negative_spirit_projection_help-t14286.0.html (ctrl+f and type in "green eyes")

I think we are the firsts to be on to something here. As i said above will someone please say when projecting "take me to The Green Eyes Society? I've always thought of the society as friendly and caring, but who knows?

I saw them again this morning after a failed attempt of OOBing, it's like they want to see me or something..I'm interested..allot in this ^^

What exactly did you see? Could someone whose going to project soon or projects frequently do me a favor and say "take me to the Green Eyes Society" I'd appreciate it a lot. I'm surprised no one on the forums has ever met "them". I don't know why I'm am SO into this!

This is really really interesting..I had completely forgot about this topic till this morning !

This morning I woke up, but kept my eyes closed..I moved a tiny bit subconciously and that ruined the state abit, but then I looked to the top of my eyes and saw two green eyes, dotting about above me..they were looking straight at me..this was very strange..then I finally had to get up..

This excited me ! Anyone else seen the green eyes ?

I have. One night I had trouble sleeping and i looked at the drapes next to me and noticed a pair of green eyes on it. And i thought it was the green eyes society. there was also some sort of blurry blob of a symbol next to it.  But this is one of the reasons i want to project. Any one who projects frequently do me a favor and say "take me to the green eyes society" then post what happens I'd appreciate it.

May I ask how old are you?
I ask because the fears you are expressing remind me of the fears I had when young (and inexperienced).  At some point in my life I was confronted by the very same things that you describe- monsters, demons, and was attacked and abducted and abused, filled with terror.  This caused me to research AP (because amazingly, I didn't connect what was happening to me with AP) and lo and behold, I learned to induce and control my projections.
Once I did it, I was confronted with scary stuff that was more theoretical and conceptual, and eventually dealt with it and got over it- the way that terrifies you- by experiencing and confronting the situations I was trying to avoid.
So, my advice is- if something as simple and 'nonpersonal' as vibrations scare you, and you fear that encountering any kind of 'baddie' will scar you, then maybe this is not for you- maybe you should wait until you think you are able to confront your deepest fears- because if you have them, I can almost guarantee you they will eventually manifest- so I recommend you do whatever you need to learn control, but don't attempt AP, because when it works you may be so scared that you may block yourself from ever experiencing it again, and when you are finally ready, you may not be able to.

Ok, Ok thank you everybody who has posted hear. I have officially gotten over my fears. Life's too short, live it to the fullest. I'm not going to let some little entity (that i can stop) ruin my projections, And as said above, why be afraid from freedom... I just need a good way to get out of my body, what am i supposed to do when my hands start tingling? Not the crazy vibrations just the tingling and numbness and stuff. I've heard of most all of the techniques, which one is the most effective and when do i do it?

interesting topic!!  like all of them are! --anyhow -- me and my bff will go to her Boyfriend in Iran.
Hawaii-- china , india, etc.
-Mt. Everest
-Space -all other placess -deep in sea

Hmm, i wonder what would happen if you went under water when projecting.  I've never done projected, but this is my list:

-Akashic Records

-Astral Pulse Island (only one who wants to?)

-The moon

-Go inside a mirror (when I'm really advanced)

-Find my Spirit Guide

- Make my own planet

-Find the Green Eyes Society (thread made about them some where around here)

But still, like i said above, i just cannot grasp the idea of being a "ghost" or how its going to feel like?

I still fear the unknown.Let me explain fully. I don't know how it's going to feel like. how overwhelming it's going to be. What/who am i going to meet. If somehow i come face to face with the devil or something that's going to scar me for life. I wanna project so bad you don't even know. I read all these stories about people getting out and going through wild adventures like nothing happened . People are just like, " On my first projection i went to outer space and met an alien" or something. How do you remain calm? how is it so casual for people?I know though nothing can hurt you. Will a spiritual guide help me?

So basically the thought of being outside of my body as some ghostly material in a dimension where everything is possible is my fear. Oh yeah, and vibrations.

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Ok this might be my most important question yet. When trying to project, if you think of a place, lets just say a grassy meadow for now. if you imagine your self at a grassy meadow and you pop out of your body, will you be at the meadow?

And lets say i do project. what if end up in some demonic world? will i return to my body automatically? will my spiritual guide help me?

Well, I have a blog out there if you want to see. It covers my progress from a very early stage beginning with SP. This one here was a breakthrough where I met my main guide, I guess you cold say.

http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/confrontation.html

Tips to stay calm? Well, not really. You will have to see it and react.  But, remember that as real as it may seem, there is nothing that can really hurt you physically.  That has been my experience anyway. 

What made you finally decide to do it? i know nothing can harm me but its just how overwhelming everything is and if you do come across a demon the image is still disturbing.

If you ran into the elders at that age, I am sure you would be freaked out enough to lock your own abilities.  But, as intimidating as they may be at any age, they are on your side.

In the beginning seeing what was around me seemed to be important.  But it is not so much now. Like others, I did see what seemed to be a view of my room, but some details were not as they really were- I would see a digital clock in place of my regular analog dial one- things like that.  At times, I seemed to be someplace entirely different.  At times, I lifted out and watched first my bed, and then the room, and then the house and city etc all recede from my view.  At some point, I would turn, or would be turned if I was being brought away- in the direction I was traveling.  Usually, the turning did not happen until I was nearing my destination.  Sometimes I can see through the entire trip. At other times I do not see anything until I arrive at my chosen destination. 

Are things clearer?  At times the places I go seem more real than this life.  It is like there is sharpness to the detail- or like you can see the object and its essence at the same time, instead of just the object as we do in everyday life.  One thing I remember thinking early on was that it felt so natural to be in that state that it felt familiar to me, and I could not believe that I had fought against the experiences starting as I had for many years. 

What was your(or anyone's) first projection like? i'm planning on projecting today, i feel ready. Any tips on staying calm?

                       
                             
                   

"Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff."

Usually when or shortly before the vibrations hit I start to see through my eyelids. By seeing through my eyelids I do not mean seeing scenes or hypnagogic images but seeing into my room from the perspective of my body. Then after a few minutes this goes away I feel a sensation of movement then sight comes back after Im seperated. During separation as Im moving out I usually dont see anything until Im fully separated.

"A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?"

Yes. One of my first conscious exits ended up perfectly like this. Everything was in its place, my physical body was perfectly visible. I could read the clock on my wall perfectly. I could read mail that was laying about, absolutely perfect. This happens about 1 in every 2 or 3 projections for me. I think the more you use your analytical mind while out the clearer and objective the experience is. Chances are if you get out into what looks like your room but things are out of place, then you probably wont see your physical body either. If this is the case then you are probably recreating your room from memory subconsciously, like a dream overlay in your projection.

I read things can be even more clear than normal life. how is this possible?Anyone been to the akashic records? what was it like? (sorry for all my noob questions.) 

A story can sometimes be just a story. 
Between not separating and separating?
It depends really... depends upon where you're projecting to and if you're actually able to see at that point.

In the middle of exiting the body do you see your ceiling?? A friend of my projected and he said he was missing a lot of stuff in his room. and everything was like purple. Is it possible everything could be very clear, normal color and not missing?

I am not TL, but I remember at least once being at a temple-like setting.  Not a temple as a college or other place of learning with temple-like atmosphere.  The elders, or whoever they were- were very intimidating to me at the time, but I was nervosa for no real reason. They seemed pleased with me, at least right then.  There are other times I have met with similar beings when I felt they were not as pleased.   

I remember reading this one story about a guy that astral projected when he was like 5 and got lost. Some elders found him and locked his astral abilities. Anyway, when you are separating from the body what do you see???not when you are separated but after the vibrations and you start lifting and stuff.

Nobody can really objectively describe it accurately... unfortunately.
It's really something you have to experience for yourself. 

ok... but does it give off sort of a foggy safe dream atmosphere, or is it overwhelming and extraordinary atmosphere?

No I usually don't freak out, rarely do I ever get scared of anything. It just shocked me that out of all my experiences and no one could see me or whatever out of the blue there is this guy who was seeing and hearing me. It was kind of embarrassing because in my experiences I am voicing everything out loud, because my logic is it's not like anyone will hear or see anything I'm doing. So when the guy approached me I was talking to myself out loud about wanting to get to the white house. Then he just casually comes up to me and asks me why I would want to go there. All I could say was "you can see me?" lol.
It feels like real life in that you are able to think logically, you can read like normal (at least I can in my experiences) and you are actively experiencing it rather than it just seeming like a memory later (like you do in a dream).

So when you get out of your body it feels like you're just getting out of bed, but you can do anything you want?

Entities, not really. But I have met one person as far as I could tell he was deceased (without a physical body). Other than that it's been a very solitary sort of state. I have seen hundreds of people, but they couldn't see me as they were in their physical bodies. So when I did meet that one guy who talked to me it surprised the heck out of me.

So you didn't freak out? or were you not capable of doing so? So it feels like real life?