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I am sorry to crash this thread.....
I have started to meet my guide and travel consciously with the help of Tayesin`s book only last week.
Appart from my guide I met a helper who didn`t name himself..
For a few days I called him notMark until we settled on Cirril to get a phonetic word resembling Cylindrical...

Today I joined this forum,
You can imagine my surprise seeing you nickname

With Love,
Eelco

Awsome
Synchronisity is an awsome thing and I see it happening mroe and more.

Total cool, I hope it will help induce OBE's. You have a great imagination.

Cool 

Looking forward to the results.

What do you mean made up?

I have always been interested in studying world history and to me it's not something you can just make up. Books and parchments are passed down from generation to generation since ancient Greece in 1100 BC. Buildings such as the the Parthenon in Athens and the Coliseum in Rome are testaments to there great achievements.

What about dinosaurs? Carbon dating puts them at about 65 million years ago.

And then we have the men that fought over the years for freedom and sacrificed everything, I'm pretty sure it was real for them.

oh, thanks for letting me know.

I meant certain parts of history; the jews being killed by the nazi's; it was actully a lot of non-Jew's aswell. Stuff like that, things that can be used to manipulate the population and that are from modern textbooks.

Very good watch: 
2012 "Enlightenment" Will Lead to Genocide (Chris White)
2012 = NWO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr9oBpNhR_Q

Barack is an evil man.

I say "I want to leave my body (or something), close my eyes, then fall backwards. Sometmes it wakes me up though. Sometmes i black out during the leaving part, then find myself in the astral.

Mabye... i remember my teeth feeling like a sponge.

I use a reversing car sensation... works really good.

haha, sending you the money now.


I see... i'll just have to get out myself then... i hope

Well, everything is possible, even Robert Bruce being a tv-shop kind of a seller. Although I don't personally think so, why? Because of the many things I've either first experienced / seen myself and then read the same things from his books or the things I've read from his books and later been able to confirm myself. It's the kind of credibility for oneself that you can rarely get from anywhere. If you think about many researchs, science 'facts' and most part of things which are taught in schools.. they are just things which have no personal meaning to you, you just have to take someone elses word that they are "true" without ever being able to confirm those claims yourself..

Cool

I'm sorry, but I didn't have the time to watch that youtube link which you put, there were so many parts that I don't have the time now.. maybe later. Anyway, the claim energy doesn't exist sounds weird at first. The common consensus seems to be that everything is energy, and that energy can't be destroyed, only transformed. Although, it makes sense to claim that there isn't energy if you take it to next level. If everything is energy, and there is nothing that is NOT energy, then energy can't be something that is found anywhere, because it is all that there is. If there isn't separation between it and not-it, then it's all, thus not something else than anything. Am I making sense here?

Ye, using that explanaton, i guess you could call energy conciousness aswell. Makes sense.

Because it is all that there is, it could be referred as a god, but that would still be a metaphor to ease the thinking. I don't know if my reasoning there is any good, but in that sense there really isn't any separate energy which is outside of yourself because all is connected, but because we are used to living in a world of separation (there are opposites to everything, which makes it possible for us to perceive the differences), it is easier to grasp a concept wrapped in this theme, although it really may not be of it. So, labeling energies as different qualities/quantitys/colors/sounds/feels/locations etc. makes it possible and easier for us to perceive, use and manipulate that which is.

-Harrif

Ye, good post. It ties in with what T.C. said.

Does anyone offer a service to take people out of ther body when they are sleeping?

Has anyone ever done it before?

What was it like?

I'm very skeptical, if what Thomas Campbell says is true; energy is just a metaphor; then it would only be our intent doing the work, not the orgonite.

Radio talk with him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ii1bBLzv5Q

"But the air-prana looks like tiny little white dots, consistently as perfect round(dot) shape with irregular flight pattern. And they seem to move in small bursts."

Ah right.


Also, Thomas Campbell says energy doesn't exist; it's just a metaphor... It makes a lot of sense. He discusses it in this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ii1bBLzv5Q

It doesn't mean what we see isn't real, it's just how we percieve it. This makes me wonder about Robert Bruce; is he just out to sell books...? (I don't mean his energy work book won't work, but he would have to lie about the energy body for it to be effectve and sell it).

I'm no expert on the matter, it could be a wide variety of things. I do know that sometimes before I go to bed I go to switch of my light and then in my semi-dark room i can see a large purple spot crawling on my wall, but that is due to me looking at my light before I switch it off. However, since I was in 7th grade (I remember the very first time) if i start thinking about it I can sort of concentrate on my peripheral vision and I can see these little pinpoint sized white ball shaped lights just flickering all around. It's easier to see them in the sun light, like against the blue sky, but now-a-days I can see them just about anywhere anytime, if I try.

Is it a trick, or is it really something? Who knows? Just enjoy the show

hmm, weird.

I really don't make what to make of your dots NotMarkk. Haven't heard or seen anything like those. Especially those white lines and that rectangle sounds interesting. Eyes can play some tricks and maybe some of the black and grey dots could be from this category, but lines and rectangles doesn't sound like that.. so maybe neither are the dots. Maybe they are your perceptions of some kind of energies or entitys? Do you lot's of these dots when you see these, or like one at a time?

However what dotster described is familiar to me too. From what I've read those white things swirling around in the air are air-prana. Which is quite the same as chi flowing in the air if I've understood correctly.. they are just using different terminology in different cultures. Do you see those only with your peripheral vision? I just recently have seen these white swirling dots couple of times now, and I can look straight on to them, and even focus my vision on them. So I can be pretty sure they aren't dust or anything because of their flight pattern and appearing/disappearing.. and I don't believe them to be tricks of the eye either because of the same things. If you get 'artifacts' in your vision, as everyone sometimes do.. the kind of blobs of different color, they seem to move with your vision, staying in the same orientation from the point you are looking, so you can't directly focus on those if they aren't right at the middle of your vision.

-Harrif

The dots always come one at a time. I also see those swirly white things (mabye dfferent than what you guys mean.); interesting explanaton though. I've alway thought they were these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floaters


Thanks for the replies. 

Hi, i started to do energy work a few month ago, now i have been seeing a few things:

Black dots; size of an avarage fly, i'll see it dance around in my perihpheral vision and then it will vanish with driect eye contact. Sometimes it will come at me like a fly, then vanishes whne i try to hit it away. My brother sees these often aswell.

Grey dots; same as black, but sometimes they don't vanish with direct eye contact. This appeared fr about 2 weeks after my gran died, my mum saw it aswell.

Large black dots; i see these on my wall, about the size of an orange and vanish when i try to look at them.

White lines; dash past the corner of my eye then vanish, i keep thinking it's fluff.

Purple rectangle; seen this once, went into the kitchen in the dark and a neon-like purple light floated past directly in front of me about 4 metres away for about 3 seconds. About 5 inches long, 2 inches up.[/li]

I see about 1 thing every 2 days and some days i see more than others.

Do you think i'm seeing anything cool or just my eyes playing tricks on me?

or something bad...

You should google the ingrediants to check if they're safe... probably won't be.

If they are, then i guess it's worth it to keep using them.

I have major sleeping problems and have had them for 2+ years, the best way to fix it is to tire myself out, try to sleep and get up at the same time each day. Also eating healthy helps. I don't recommend pills.

Google health ranger if oyu want to be really healthy

Mastering Astral Projection is the best program I have ever used. I bought the book about 3 years ago and did the 90-Day program. The book is based on Astral Dynamics and it gives you day-by-day steps to achieving successful conscious OBEs. The book definitely helped me with my energy work, which is very import to successful conscious astral projection.

As far as the past is concerned, it's difficult to just create an energy bubble like in Terminator and hop back in time. I have had a few experiences with time travel and every time I went into the past what i saw didn't correlate with any history books, leading me to believe it was an alternate past.

History as we know it was prob made up. :p seriously, i bet it was...