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I'll just post the relevant information I got from the web:

What is coming, when you look at the latest web bot run from <www.halfpasthuman.com> is something approaching a major social revolution in the month of September but becoming universally apparent by the beginning of November, but it´s not the US elections. What it is is major social change of a scale rivaling or perhaps exceeding post 9/11 events:

"The nature of the shift is not yet clear, but we do have certain

clues. Our aspects include much more cooperative language, and

much less language of conflict. Now, this is not to say the

interpretation is for global peace to suddenly break-out. Rather the

sense we are getting is that a sea-change in social point-of-view is

occurring now. The effects of the change in social consciousness

will become evident over the next few months. "

To reiterate what we told subscribers last weekend: There´s something pretty big coming between September 2 and September 10 which will be emerging into consciousness around September 23 and which will be fully in the public´s mind by November 1st. This has shown up in almost 6-months of data runs. No, it´s not the elections - and whatever it is, it will have impacts lasting past March of 2005 and there´s a "water aspect" to the period after the event.

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
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WEB BOT UPDATE!

So what would fit with the web bot´s predicted huge lifestyle change coming this fall to a world near you? Remember, that whatever it is will start becoming visible around August 25th at the very "tip of the iceberg level" and will percolate into the public awareness by the end of September with pretty much universal recognition by November 1st? Matt Savinar over at www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net spied this interesting report: Cantarell, the second largest oilfield in the world down in Mexico, is reported on it´s last legs!
http://home.entouch.net/dmd/cantarell.htm We´ve already alerted you to Chip Haynes New Colonist article "Ghawar is dying" article. http://www.newcolonist.com/ghawar.html and the bumper stickers they´re selling: http://www.newcolonist.com/store.html#ghawar_sticker As Savinar notes: "Samsam Bakhtiari - the Iranian oil expert - has said he thinks oil will be $125 [per barrel] within in two years. " Our worry: if not sooner.

Meantime, the Fed´s use of the term transitory is looking gumber by the day./

Cliff at www.halfpasthuman.com has posted the second installment of data slicing from current web bot runs. Entities emerging from the data:
• "Bloody Tears (Economy- global)"
• "Populace (Digesting Bad News, Economic Standstill, Crossing Dark Waters)"
• "Terra (Storms and Watery Separations)"
More detail is coming:
"As the model develops, we do see that events in September will impact oil/energy both in availability and prices.
Also we note that a ´coup´ soon supported by a general popular uprising within the Moslem world (currently interpreted as Iraq) will lead to the ´pushing´ of the ´establishment´ into the sea after a short, bloody battle costly to both sides.
As more data will arrive for a number of days we will necessarily be dumping and re-processing the model repeatedly. This will lead to augmentations of the discussions of these entities as we continue into parts 3 and 4. We will push on to part 3 as soon as the data run is complete on the 19th."
Sobering stuff, huh?

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
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Info on web-bots here: http://urbansurvival.com/simplebots.htm

This site might also be interesting to you all:
Cyberspace and the Great Shift in Consciousness http://www.kirael.com/KSR/ksr0804.html

EMERGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT MAY 8, 2004


For some time a number of Minutemen (the same type of men who actively defended this country during our own Revolution that gave us our Constitution ... and whom president bush in a recent speech called outlaws and criminals) ... these minutemen have been studying the patterns and manners of the secret societies that brought you 911 and have infiltrated every corner and aspect of our federal government (and many state and local governments).  As most of you know the secret ruling families are in control of the governments of the world including the militaries, military-industrial complex, the financial centers of the world, the commodities markets of the world, the press and news agencies and are in an all-out effort to bring down the United States as the next move to bring about their planned one world government with themselves as ultimate leaders.  The fingers of these societies reach into every town in America through their control of certain secret groups (can you guess which groups these are in your community???) whose goal is the control of the local aspects of every community.



The Minutemen of whom I speak do not carry arms and weapons as it would be pointless against the armies of goons, hired thugs and Mafia hit men now in the employment of the secret societies, and whom are backed up all the way up to B-52 bombers with nuclear weapons.  They have been responsible for the development of Bio terrorism agents, as well as all forms and sorts of hideous ways to control and dominate the public.  They have armies at their command in all countries of the world including the United States.  Many of these are controlled by egos and by other methods developed centuries ago by the forefathers of today's secret societies.  These methods work today just as well as they worked hundreds of years ago.



The Minutemen have been working for sometime to determine the patterns and basis of operation of the secret societies in an effort to predict their movements in the deadly chess game they play on the earth with the average person has there pawns.  The secret societies are the groups who sat in meetings and decided that America needed to be attacked on 911.  Make no mistake, it took thousands of people in a coordinated effort to pull off 911.  It was not a bunch of camel jockeys from the Mideast as the news media was told to portray.  There are many factors in the basis of those attacks including celestial alignments, numerology, political factors, financial factors combined with their demented need to control in an ultimate manner.



In trying to examine the past we are attempting to predict the future based on indicators and weighting factors.  Recently the dials of the indicators have all begun to point strongly in one direction.  It is based on this set of indicators that with great reservation I make this emergency announcement.



Based on the factors that we have been able to uncover and based on upcoming factors, our indicators tell us that on May 11, 2004 this coming Tuesday the secret societies may be planning an attack on the heartland of the United States.  To the best of our ability to forecast based on the many factors of past events and also based on our estimates of what the secret societies need to do to move onwards in their plan to advance a one world government, it appears that the site of the possible attack would be the commodities market in Chicago Illinois with silver being targeted specifically although not exclusively.



There are less than 6000 family members in the secret societies worldwide that control the governments, financial centers, militaries, military production facilities, commodities, energy production facilities, news media and last but not least the top-down ability to move quickly into action in every community and local government in the United States.  For example does your community have a new police and fire station these have been built all over for a reason.  It is my intention to expose, identifying, and eliminate the secret societies and their worldwide control from the face of the earth once and for all.  Information and exposure to the public is their worst enemy.



The above estimate is purely speculation based on factors that we have been able to put together as noted above based on past and future indicators.  This is not an exact science and I do not make these kinds of statements regularly.  I have made statements similar to this in the past and there are a good many people who believe that we have prevented 911 types of scenarios based on those past announcements.

link: http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/EMERGENCY%20ANNOUNCEMENT%20MAY%208%202004.HTM

Last nite I had a dream of an asteroid hitting the earth.

I saw the the asteroid from first person view, as if I was the asteroid. As I was quickly approaching the earth, I saw a system of grids and matrices on it. Next thing I know, there is a loud explosion and a flash and I appear in cameria view right by my apartment building as I see a big tidal wave rushing towards it. It was kind of small, since my place isn't really close to the ocean but this is florida we are talking about, and I live on the east side of it, in a city called Hialeah. The wave of course flooded the streets.

I had a second dream where me and a bunch of people were being held at some headquarters. We were being watched by some general, and he was the one commanding us to do things. One of the things he told us to do was to take a shot. First thing that popped up into my head when I was getting the shot was that it was something to do with mind control. Later when I woke up, I figured that it could even be the microchip ID that people think of as the "mark of the beast". Everyone was then headed over to a place where there was testing for physical endurance, mental tests, video games, and other things which tested us. I remember alot of people being.... dumb. I was also, kind of....dumb. It was perhaps the shot I got. Then the general told us that he had no need for us and that we'd all be dead in about 2 week and something days from now. He then started passing out a tax slip, in which he commanded us to pay 28 dollars for, us being FORCED to be there. People were like "wtf! we were forced to be here and now we have to pay 28 dollars for being here? Hell no!"

Then I woke up and that was the end of the dream.

Any thoughts?

http://aoreport.com/news6.htm

This link explains what Project HAARP, and Project Blue Beam are their technologies, and how they can be used to deceive the masses during the mass ascension, and the days of the "Armageddon" events.

It is very interesting because it can deceive EVEN the trained eye. That means you folks also. I am posting this to inform you, and to keep you from being deceived into a certain beleif system because these technologies affect all of your senses, even your mind, as in mind control with hypersonic sound.

My intuition tells me this technology is very real, but whether it will go according to plan, that is up to the future.

This was meant to be a reply for the thread called "The One" in this subforum, but I realize that the moderators have already closed the topic. I feel something I have something important to add because  it is striking a chord in me.

3 days ago I posted a thread on a very popular public forum on the future "changes on earth" which I beleive are going to happen very soon. Right now that topic is gone because they have deleted it, so there is no way to confirm this, but it is up to you whether you beleive this or not. I wouldn't be wasting my time speaking about this putting my "ego" at risk with something as "outlandish" to most skeptics as this.

Anyways. I posted a topic at the sosuave.com discussion forums, one of the best sites there that is participating in the saving of today's portrayal of the emasculation of male figure (mostly in the media, I think most would agree with me). So I thought this would be a great place where I could get the attention of a huge mass of people.

I registered my name as xXThe OneXx, and posted about a revolution that will be occuring in the future of the world, and how there is a rising in consciousness. Since the post was deleted, all I can give you is the link to the "essay" which I also posted on these forums.

The Revolution:
Check out my post all the way at the bottom. I think it's the second from last in that page.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10642&whichpage=17

But with the thread I posted, it caused quite a stir with the skeptics, and also folks agreeing with me and relating to me on the massive shift in cosnciousness. There was also a great deal of information exchange for the time being that the thread was there. Some of the things I posted were about the Sears Tower disaster, and even in the morning before I went to school on the day this event was supposed to occur, I said "heads up, something might happen today" and provided the link once again to the pages that have researched why they think the sears tower would go down on 4/19... specificaly www.breakfornews.com .

I also said that lots of people also have the same idea of something happening on 4/19 and are spreading this information out. I said, "the more people spread the Illuminati's plans to the masses, the more they will postpone it". So in a way I think my post was important in postponing the terror plot, as others who also spread this did, but not in a public "commercial" forum like I did, more so underground alternative news sources and forums like abovetopsecret.com that most would categorize as "conspiracy theorist's sites". To the masses which consist mostly of skeptics that are unwilling to open themselves at least to the possibility's of another view of the world, would think that conspiracy websites are "for crazy people" and disreguard it as "bovine excrement" because the "REAL" commercial news is the only thing they would pay attention to.

I beleive that the government is trying to spread to the masses the "origins of the terror" that they are planning to do before it happens, and are going as far as even giving a timescale on when terrorism is expected to happen. That way the masses would blindly discard a future attack as "one of the attacks that were expected to happen this year by Al Quaeda".

Heres all the proof of this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/marketwatch/story/184969p-160343c.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread44875/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread44673/pg1
http://www.atsnn.com/story/44886.html

This also opens up the possibilities for MORE attacks, and also to turn this country into a police state for "security issues" due to the increased threats of terrorism that the government, and the media predicts are going to occur. Really all this could lead to the government taking more of our freedoms in place of "security", which is one of their intentions I think.

When I posetd the topic at sosuave.com there was some guy who was posting claiming that he was part of the Illuminati but his "secret society" prefers to be called "Technocracy". He seemed to be very legit in his posts, and also warned me that he was sending people from his "group" to my house to "teach me a lesson" so I don't try to post the truth about our control systems, mainly because I'd be dead. But some posts later he said that the information I provided is "not as close to the truth as we thought it was, and that is obvious. This man isn't as big of a threat as we thought of him to be, so will be holding our men back." Those weren't his words exactly but that is exactly the message he sent out. I of course thought, that IF this man actually was who he claimed to be, he used the great manipulation skills he had to make the masses beleive that I was crazy, and that the stuff I am posting is not true, when in fact it is.

Couple of posts later the thread was deleted, and that occured today while I was in school.

You may or may not beleive me, but all of this struck a chord in me when I read the post "The One" because I remembered that I actually registered the name xXThe OneXx couple days earlier and you can go and search for this on the sosuave.com forums under the member search and find exactly when I registered. I think they also banned me but I was still able to receive a private message by someone who was relating to me and totally agreed with me.

I beleive that in a way, I played a very important role in the postponing of the event of a terrorist attack on the Sears tower in Chicago, so far as to say that I actually was "The One" that was posted about on the thread called "The One", which are on these forums. I base this on the facts that I actually named myself xXThe OneXx and spread the information of the plans of the attack on the sears towers, as well as others did. I am greatful that those others did as well. In fact, I think the others made more of an impact than I did, because if it wasn't for them I woulnd't have known about the plans for the attack. I also beleive that the claims I make is true, about the guy from the "Technocracy" and of the recent news about the future terror attacks that are going to be made. of course, you could beleive different, but I am just here to provide you the perspective of the possibility that it is in fact true. You decide whether it is, and again, I wouldn't be wasting my time posting all this if it weren't.

I do realize that what I am doing is risky but I feel everyone should know the truth about things, I don't care if something does happen to me, I am mentally prepared for it. I'm willing to risk myself in trying to save humanity. If that "Technocracy"/Illuminati group is actually monitoring me, well... I gotcha! If something does happen to me, the people on this board WILL know about it as I will have suddenly stopped posting for no reason (its obvious), and that is even a much more of a bigger reason for people to get rowdy and get started on the revolution to spread moree truth about our systems of control. [^]

I wish for the best of all

Yea I just posted in the thread named "profile" and asked where can I edit my profile.

Well Nay answered me with "you can find it in personals".

Well, as strange as it may seem. I HAVE NO PERSONAL!

I don't know maybe its a bug but I do remember having trouble even registering this user name. 3 weeks went by after I registered it and I never got a comfirmation email so I had to email support for them to activate my account.

I am sure that I have no "personal", I even clicked on my browsers bar at the top where it says Edit, and click on "find in this page" and I typed in personal and it says it cannot find the word personal in this page.

Please tell me wtf is going on.

When I meditate I have to make an effort to close my eyelids, actually making them tense. If I fully relax myself my eyelids slowly open up. Its like for myself to be full relaxed my eyelids need to be open. I don't know how to explain it. The more I relax my eyes the more they start to open up. Then I have to keep on closing them.

This problem got its last straw when last nite I was dreaming and I became lucid and then my dream slowly turned into black and I realized that the black I was seeing was under my eyelids and my left eyelid was slight open.

When I am trying to wake myself up from a bad dream I find that my eyelids are sort of locked closed and it takes alot of effort to open them up so I can wake myself up.

So its like, when I am fully conscious, I can't keep my eyes closed, yet when I am dreaming my eyelids become locked.

Are my eyelids wrongly formed or something?

What can I do to stop this?

Well about an hour ago I decided to take a nap and I started dreaming. I was in a scene in my own house. My dad had just came in the house and as I was talking to him another dad (the same one) came in through the door. I asked the one I was talking to "wait a minute, if your my dad, then who is he!?" My dad said back "what are you talking about". Then I said to myself, I am dreaming, I am now LUCID!! I became excited and then I told myself to be calm.

I tried to calm myself but the more I did the more conscious I became. I had something in my hands at the time and I threw it and it floated in mid air and just stopped in midair. Never hit the ground. My dad's girlfreind walked by and I said "hey you!"

She didn't answer me.

Then my dream slowly became back and then I was awake under closed eyelids.

Why did I stop dreaming?

Can I talk to "dream people" while I am in the lucid state?

Can become fully conscious during the dream make you stop dreaming?

I had complete control over me during this dream but the lucidity lasted only until I woke up which was like 10 seconds later after I became conscious that I was dreaming.

What good websites are there for lucid dreaming?

I have ADD. I can't focus for sh*t. I hate it. As much as I try I still get bits and peices of information whenever I try to focus so I have to put it all together with my conscious mind to get "the whole picture"

I heard that ADD is something developed, and not something that you are born with. It is developed at a young age, usually when the child is very smart. SO smart and ahead of the class in school that the child does not need to develop essential learning skills... that is, at that age. Then as time goes on and school gets harder, since they have not developed any learning skills school gets really hard for them. Therefore I think if I know exactly what to do to cure this I can do it WITHOUT taking any medication. I think most depression, and "MIND DISEASES" can be cured in some way without medications.

Now, I read from many sources that the main thing for OBE is focus. Focus on clearing the mind.But the focus thing really makes it hard for me to relax my eyes while meditating. I can relax my body just fine but my eyes are always moving, because my mind is conscious of every single sensation that I feel and my eyes react to it by moving, or I start pumping adrenaline once I first start feeling sensations and basically I just can't "let go".

The longest I have been able to let go and make my eyes stay in one place is probably 5 to 8 seconds. And thats when I started feeling shifts in my consciousness and I felt like something was happening.

So I am asking you peeps to help me. Do you have any strategies that help you focus? I have been meditating for about 3 weeks straight every single day and I have not really made any progress into making an OBE. My eyes just keep moving! In fact, I think that if I don't move my eyes, that I will lose consciousness and fall asleep.

Its really frustrating. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

wussup everyone! I'm new to all of this so please bear with me. Some of my questions might seem a little newbieish.

I recently purchased the Astral Dynamics book about 2 weeks ago. I am on the NEW Energy Ways chapter of the book. Its a real good book.

I have some questions.

1. Is the NEW Energy Ways online guide better than the one in the book? Do you recommend that I read the online version even after I read the book version to gain more knowledge, or is it basically the same thing?

2. I have a problems with trying to project. I have been meditating for the past 3 or 4 weeks trying to project or at least trying to enter trance state. I have ran into some problems. I have reached the trance state (I think). I feel heaviness in my body, but I have not felt any numnbness associated with the trance state which has been mentioned by people who write projection. Do I have to feel numbness to be considered in trance?

3. I have felt very little vibrations during meditation. Usually around the solar plexus and the heart chakra areas. Its weird though. I feel vibrations for about 5 to 10 seconds, then I don't feel any again for about 10 minutes and then I get them again for another 5 to 10 seconds or so followed by 10 minutes of no vibrations and this continues until I feel I have been meditating for too long (usually about 1 hour to 1.5 hours) and I just stop meditating. I try to make the vibrations continue but they always stop. BTW I usually meditate lying down, if that bit of information does anything.

4. During meditation I always get urges to scratch myself. I get itches alot, I dont know why. They are all over my body, I have had this all my life. But sometimes I just think its my mind playing tricks on me because they don't really feel like itches, it feels like someone is tickling me in that spot. I know I know, its weird. Maybe its just an overactive energy body. Who knows? Anyone?

5. During meditation, it takes alot of effort to keep my eyelids closed. Sometimes I feel like my eyelids are opening slowly. Im not trying to hard, I try to relax as much as possible but sometimes when I try to relax my eyelids start to slowly open up but it gets better as time passes and then it gets easier keeping my eyelids closed. Usually my whole body is relaxed but the only thing that stays tense is my eyes and eyelids, and the muscles around my eyes. What can be causing my eyes to always be opening up like this? Do I have to have my eyes in a certain position? My eyes are always moving. Beleive me I am not working too hard, Im just having trouble keeping my eyeballs still and my eyelids closed. Not much of a problem but if someone would tell me what to do with my eyes that would keep my eyelids closed with minimal effort it would help alot.

6. When I meditate, I feel alot of sensation in my head. Pressure, my consciousness shifting, feeling like something wants to pop out of my head, tingling around my brow center. What could all this mean? Am I close to projection?

7. (last one) Sometimes while in trance state images start forming from the blackness behind my eyelids. But as soon as I realize I see forming images, which is very quickly, I become aware again. I dont want to losing consciousness because I can fall asleep, and I dont want that. But when I become aware of them, the images disappear. Am I supposed to let those images form? Is this perhaps one of those "focus levels" some people mention on this website? Is there any way to enter those focus level without having to listen to the tapes the Monroe Institute sells?

Please if you read this post and have some answers, dont hesitate to write back. I am trying to learn as much as possible about Astral Dynamics. It is very interesting. I am fascinated by Astral Projection. I just want to learn more, see how much I can learn and do with it.

Thanks, feedback will be appreciated.

September 27, 2004
Government Approved
Journalism in the age of terror
By Maya Schenwar

In August, I attended the first-ever "News and Terrorism: Communicating in a Crisis" conference, the Chicago kick-off of a year of counterterrorism workshops geared toward journalists in 10 major cities, sponsored by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The keynote speaker was none other than the DHS head honcho himself, Mr. Tom Ridge.

As we settled into our seats, the late-arriving Ridge laid forth our mission: "We're going to work together to achieve some common goals," Ridge informed us. "There may be a time when your audience needs more than just the story."

Journalists, according to Ridge, are the "constant reminders of the freedom of expression we all enjoy." Nonetheless, when it comes to terrorism, everyone could use a few tips from the good old DHS. The goal of the day, Ridge said, would be to provide the press with a "detailed playbook" for responding to crisis, providing journalists with the strategies and (government-affiliated) contacts needed to deal with a terrorist scenario. "A consistent message to the public is critical."

It's a difficult task, freely expressing the "consistent message" you've been fed by the feds. We needed instruction. Thus, along with a hundred other Chicago-area journalists, government officials and public health officers, I underwent two hours of interactive crisis response role-playing, following the minute-by-minute details of a make-believe terrorist scenario involving mass casualties, radiation, George W. Bush's daughter and the wife of one of the reporters. City officials granted the unnamed Bush daughter privileged status, carting her out of the danger zone, despite the quarantine in effect. The reporter's wife, who'd called his cell phone while he was "on-scene," was left to bleed in the street. Nervous laughter ensued, but in times like this, the journalists agreed, one must think in terms of the "public good." Conspicuously absent from the scenario, however, was any mention of the numbers of people dying. The actual toll on human life was left to the ambiguous description, "mass casualty event."

Throughout the role play, journalists were encouraged to call on experts, to think critically about when to release information to the public, and to ask who, what, when, where-everything but why. The role of the press, said moderator John McWethy of ABC News, is to accurately report information as government officials release it. In other words, in a state of emergency, the media morph into a PR department for Washington. Each speaker emphasized that business, government and the media all must learn how to function in crisis mode. And in crisis mode, baby, we're all in the system together.

Take, for instance, Ridge's assessment of the DHS's color-coded terror alert plan: "It's a signal, like a traffic light is a signal, that we expect a certain conduct from you." Apparently, such conduct includes leaving one's wife bleeding in the street because the news must go on, and remaining in quarantined areas even under the threat of radiation-unless your papa's the president, that is.

Although a few journalists asked for procedural clarifications ("What's the protocol for a pregnant reporter covering a radiation crisis?"), real questions were markedly absent from the conference. Does the press have a responsibility to seek out the roots of terror, or to weigh the various complex factors involved in international terrorist scenarios? Nope, according to Ridge. "Our job is to eliminate confusion," he said. Goodbye, gray zone. Hello, unthinking certainty.

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1135/

Here's a short peice I thought was cool.

   The Terrorists Of Washington City
   By Michael Edward
   10-3-4

   I'm really sick and tired of hearing about "Terrorism" against the "United States." Granted, there is a true terrorism against America and Americans, but this is not the same "terrorism" both Kerry and Bush, and every controlled media outlet, is brain-washing America with.

   Who is "al Queda" (regardless of how it's been mis-spelled by the false media) or "Bin Laden"? Both are of and in the same... formed, created, and funded by the CIA during the US Reagan Administration. This is no secret. In fact, Washington City was so proud of this in the later 1980's that they openly admitted to funding these "terrorists" from within Pakistan to fight the Russians occupying Afghanistan. Did you forget those "news reports" from a little less than 20 years ago? After all, you are now told those 1980's CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, et al, reports about funding and supporting Bin Laden or al Queda were non-existent. Talk about changing history, this is a prime example of "creative" re-writing of history.

   The "U.S." [a/k/a Washington City], one of three conglomerate banking-corporate powers of the world, is the target of the alleged "worldwide terroristic" attacks. 9-11-01 proved that to be so, or so we have been told. Yes, innocent American lives were sacrificed by some group of undeniable power in the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

   WHO were the terrorists and WHO were the primary targets? Are we to believe some group of Muslims from the Middle East, who could barely pilot a single engine basic training aircraft - a Cessna 150 - at Venice (Florida) Airport, blew up both towers of the NYC World Trade Center piloting Boeing multi-engine Pratt & Whitney 2 stage fan-turbine powered commercial passenger aircraft?

   Yes, there is no doubt what-so-ever that Washington City and those behind the "U.S." are under attack. But please let me remind you that they are not America. If you were born on this land, you are an American, NOT a "U.S. CITIZEN" of the District of Columbia or its Territories. If you were born on this land, you are a birthright American just as a North American Indian is, and not a Corporate Citizen of the banking powers that currently control and had first created Washington City.

   Why do I call the "District of Columbia" Washington City? Because at the start of the un-Civil War in North America, both the North and the South referred to that place on the Potomac River as Washington City in all book and newspaper accounts. Before that, the 13 Colonies who revolted from English Rule also referred to that same geographical place with the same term.

   Americans don't need to grow up or wise up to the truth... they just need to read the accurate historical records hidden within small cities and towns. Start with local small town American newspaper archives. Even better, go further back to the Philadelphia archives of Benjamin Franklin's "The Aurora" newspaper and find out what a Jacobian is.

   America is under a very realistic terroristic attack, but Muslims and Islam are not the attackers any more than Hindus or Christians are. While Washington City spews out its fabrications about 911 and Iraq, along with the created fear about how "America" needs to protect itself against "terrorism," the truth is that Washington City is under attack and America is not.

   There is a difference between the true America and the false America. What Washington City represents is not America. That's why the real America is not under attack from "terrorists." That's why the purported Islamic "terrorists" fingered by Washington City have never attacked the land that is the real America.

   In order to create a "terroristic war" that reaches its tendrils into world political governments, as well as every local town, you have to continually create un-catchable, un-reachable, and un-accountable terrorists. Washington City has done just that. Their "terrorists" will never be caught, and their "war on terrorism" will never end. Why is this? Simply because a "war" against an un-seen "enemy" can never be won nor lost... especially if you are the one creating your own enemy and your own war. Read the book "1984" to see how well this can work if the people allow it to become a reality in their local society.

   If the true America is under attack, it does not come from purported Islamic fanatics or "terrorists" whom the powers and creators of Washington City claim are our enemy. America is under attack from within our own land, from a city that is not a State, and from powers that have raped Americans of their sustinence for nearly 100 years.

   Yes, a "terrorist" war exists in America... and our true enemy is not the purported "terrorist" enemy of Washington City: Our true enemy is that which created Washington City itself.

   http://worldvisionportal.org/WVPforum/viewtopic.php?p=728#728
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ok so I get off topic with some of these articles... but I like exposing truth.

There won't be anymore web-bot runs as the halfpasthuman.com owner is not going to do the web-bot thing.. because of financial problems supposedly. But why shut down something that is providing income? Anyway, there are reasons why financial problems would be the case, I just think otherwise.

I think by November 2nd I think there is a high potential of getting some more web-bot hit reports, so I'd like to have this thread open and until then I will post whatever news articles I feel I should post.

I just read that article and the author's views are very interesting to me, but I agree with you Palehorse that it is a bit one-sided. But if it's all true or not Im undecided really, and I do wish I could know the whole truth.. and like right now, lol but I think accurate history is very hard to find...but it is nice to ponder on the many views I come across.

ANUNNAKI REPORT FROM INTERNATIONAL SCIENCE TEAM: http://ivan.harhan.org/documents/2003-05-briefing-doc.txt

"Others [terrorists] are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations...It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our [counterterrorism] efforts." -- Secretary of Defense William Cohen

Was Mount St. Helens WOKEN up? http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/hwoken.htm

IRAQI PEOPLE SAY AL-ZARQAWI IS MEDIA LIE
*SNIP*
The resistance has many faces. In some towns it started after people lost patience with reconstruction. In others it was a direct response to US raids, arrests and humiliations.

But across Iraq the resistance is now known as "al-Muqawama al-Shaabi"—the popular resistance.

Members of the Iraqi delegation at a recent anti-war conference in Beirut spoke to Socialist Worker. The delegation, from Fallujah, Baghdad and Basra, included tribal and religious leaders and community representatives.

*SNIP*
"We heard rumours that the Peshmerga [Kurdish forces] were helping the US, but we did not actually see them helping the enemy."

He also dismissed claims that the resistance in Fallujah is under the control of Al Qaida:

"The Western media claim the resistance is being directed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian leader of Al Qaida, but this is not true.

"The resistance in Fallujah is controlled by the people of Fallujah. In the other cities it is the same. We believe this is a deliberate lie spread by the Americans to discredit the resistance and to try to stop it from spreading."

Samira al-Gaylani, a lawyer from Baghdad and head of the secular Progressive Movement of Iraqi Women, dismissed US attempts to play the sectarian card, saying, "Iraq has been mixed for 7,000 years. The resistance has general support among the Iraqi people."

Dr Fatima Saloum says that there was some sympathy for the troops of the occupying powers:

"We see the young British and US soldiers and most of them are very young—just boys really. We wonder why such powerful armies would send these boys to occupy our country.

"We feel sorry for them because most of them just look scared all the time.

"At first they would give sweets and Coca-Cola to the children, but now they are even scared of the children.

"We feel sympathy for Rose Gentle and other mothers who have lost their sons, but we blame Bush and Blair for making these young men our enemies.

"It is important to know that there are two faces to the resistance—the armed resistance, like in Fallujah and Samarra, but also the other resistance, the civilian resistance."

The Iraqi delegates also dismissed the national elections planned for January.

Nidal al-Jaz'iri says, "People in Basra reject the elections. They are dominated by political forces which are not known to us—people who came from outside Iraq."

Samira says, "There will not be any democratic elections because the national convention which happened in Baghdad was just a piece of theatre. Everything was decided beforehand. After that kind of convention, you can imagine what the elections are going to be like."

Sheikh Khalil Ibrahim of Fallujah says elections will not stop the resistance. "Any election which takes place under occupation will not be a genuine, national election, and will not be accepted by the Iraqi people.

"If they impose these elections on the Iraqi people, in order to set up a permanent government which supports America and its allies, the resistance will continue."

Nidal al-Jaz'iri represents women and children's groups from the southern city of Basra. She says that in the first days after the invasion many people hoped life would improve. But these hopes were quickly dashed:

"In the south we know about the British because we were occupied by them before. Some of our main institutions were set up under British occupation in the 1920s, and there is still a British cemetery near Basra. We hoped we could cooperate with the British, but we were disappointed.

"There still has not been any real reconstruction. Non-governmental organisations came to Basra and made lots of promises, but often they just repainted the walls and made superficial repairs.

"Schools have still not been rebuilt. In many schools the roof still leaks and the floor is just mud. Children come home each day covered in dirt from the mud floor."

Ordinary people began to organise to demand improvements in basic services, like water and electricity. But, instead of listening to these demands, the British troops ignored them and their representatives.

*SNIP*
He says that after the Fallujah uprising it became clear that "cities that resist and are strong can keep the US out".

"The people of Fallujah have risen in rebellion. The Americans cannot enter large parts of the city. The Beni Tamim have also liberated Yathrib in the Baled region north of Baghdad and towns near Baquba."

The resistance has also undermined attempts by the US to sow divisions between Sunni and Shia Muslims.

Sheikh Sa'ad al-Ani of the Sufi Islamic Union of Iraq says that people from across the country helped the Fallujah resistance fighters during the April siege:

"People came from Baghdad, Najaf, and Basra to help Fallujah, and to bring us food and oxygen supplies. They came from every province of Iraq to show solidarity with us."

Sheikh Sa'ad al-Ani says the victory in Fallujah proved it was possible to defeat the Americans: "The creation of the Fallujah Brigade, which ended the siege, was a victory for Fallujah.

"The religious scholars made an agreement with representatives of the US-backed interim government to select members of the brigade from among the people of Fallujah."

The Fallujah Brigade has now joined the resistance.

Sheikh Khalil Ibrahim also dismissed claims that the country would descend into civil war if the US coalition were to withdraw:

"I am a Sunni Muslim, but the Beni Tamim is a mixture of Shia and Sunni. Do you think that as soon as the Americans leave we will start killing each other? That a father will kill his son?

"This lie about a civil war has only one purpose—to extend the occupation. We say, 'Get out! Get out of our country. America and your allies, get out of our country. If you are afraid of civil war breaking out, turn the matter over to the United Nations so that it can bring peacekeeping troops to Iraq.'

"As for the US forces they are completely rejected by every man, woman and child in Iraq, of every religious creed—Sunni, Shia, Christian, Yazidi and Sabian, Kurd and Arab."
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I think I beleive this story more than the Al Zarqawi one. Al Zarqawi was said to have died before then Nick Berg beheading, probably early this year or late last year, I forgot. But I read about his death, and it wasn't from the mainstream american news. And guess who I think was behind the Nick Berg beheading? I'll tell you that its one of these 4 or maybe a mix: Israelis (MOSSAD), US (CIA, NSA, any of those other secret service deals), UK, and Russia. There are many reasons why I think so, many others would agree, but I won't go into detail.

I spoke with someone from the military last week when he was in Iraq, it was the first time I spoke to him in a while. I asked him some questions about the resistance which made him uneasy. I asked him why if they are liberating Iraq, are Iraqis resisting. And he said "it's like a ghetto, some people like you and some people don't". I asked him who are the 'terrorists". He told me "well those are armies of.. well Im not going to say". Then I asked him how MOSSAD and the CIA are doing, (jokingly) and he said "alllrite, I can't talk to you about that and my time is up" and we said our goodbyes. So from that short conversation it's obvious that he was hiding something or at least wouldn't tell the truth upfront, most likely because he thought I already knew alot.

Although I can understand the Iraqi's resistance to the US forces, I don't really know that UN forces would do better. I think the US forces should leave, or at least... get some better people skills, lol and act out of genuine kindness and justice, not intimidation or from a chain of command in which the highest seats of power support disinformation campaigns which only help to spread division and corruption.

Democrats Fear 'October Surprise' http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041003/ap_on_el_pr/october_surprise_2

Now Im really intrigued to know what this October Surprise is.

Here's a quote from a "Zionism DataPage" (http://www.rense.com/Datapages/zionismdata.htm)

Jews Against Zionism:
"...it is our obligation to make it known in order that everyone should understand that the Zionists are not the nation of Israel... and it is most definitely our holy obligation to announce before those nations of the world that the Zionists are not the spokespeople of the nation of Israel..." - Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum

quote: QS, I never would have taken you for an anti-Semite. Yet your last post seems to have that tone.

Well, rest assured that Im not anti-semitic. I just don't like most zionist jews. And the zionists DO NOT represent jews. In fact there are alot of jews that are against zionism and would agree with me that they don't like zionists to represent all jews. Zionism is like a jewish corporation with its agenda as well. Did you even read any of the articles that I keep referring to? Especially the one "On The Jewish People Zionism And Anti-Semitism"? It says alot there.

quote:Of course, if that is true, it may explain why you don't think the terrorists want the rest of us dead. You live here, you are a USA citizen, they want you dead. Simple as that.

Blah, why do you always come up with all these conclusion about me which I have to disprove of? Terrorists are terrorists, they kill whoever they want to, and so do we, if we do want to. I don't think ALL terrorists don't want "the rest of us" dead, or me. They do whatever they want...

quote:
By the way, if you are so anti-Bush, I surmise you are a Kerry supporter. Hope you have your bags packed for the draft. He will be pressured by the democrats in Congress to sign the draft bill they wrote and are trying to get passed. Be careful what you wish for. Oh, well....just think of it as your chance to get away from it all and have a whole new direction in life for a few years.

again, you surmised wrong. I am not a kerry supporter. I am an 'independant'. I know bush and kerry's agenda. The latest debate was very revealing and yes Kerry DID talk about his plan to strengthen the military.

Jena, I don't like you making such conclusions about me which fit comfortably with your perceptions, I find it very irrating to keep having to type all that is necessary prove to you that something isn't.

Anyways....

quote:But either way, my point still stands. The events we're experiencing now are vastly overshadowed by events decades ago, or centuries ago. We're not in the midst of unprecedented war, or unprecedented political machinations. Only global warming and the associated earth changes seem slightly new (assuming we ignore larger earth changes in the planet's history), but what suggests that they're anything more than they're purported to be?

How bout taking a look at this article from (http://www.enterprisemission.com/_articles/05-14-2004_Interplanetary_Part_1/Interplanetary_1.htm) about how the whole solar system is experiencing changes. So it's not just earth, and what do you suppose could be causing these changes? I think it's area of space that we are moving into that inhabits very potent enegy. I also think there is a massive planetary body in the solar system that has something to do with it. Just care to research (and of course obtaining the proper perspective) and you'll see what Im talking about.

quote:Of course not, but I don't see it as a straight choice between either a) believing that these injustices are a precursor to some apocalypse/global enlightenment/transition/cosmic hootenanny, or b) not caring. There's middle ground.

In terms of enlightenment, I think it is a precursor. Take for example how we are shown what isn't to recognize what is. The thing is here, we are shown what injustice is to recognize justice.

It's simple really, we have the power of love and knowing. []

As of right now the GLP site for it's adress is no longer gop.com or rnc.org. But it does make me wonder about the hacker. Elaine is posting at another board, and she mentioned that the hacker didn't like liberals...

LOL, so it looks like we were hacked by the politicians! Heheheheh.... but on a serious note, it's obvious that the hacker supports Bush's agenda.

quote:Quiet Storm...don't think for a second that democrats don't love power, money and oil as much as any republican. And the oil companies, like most corporate interests give money to both parties and candidates.

There are no democrats out there demanding we end our oil dependency in 10 years - banning all gasoline powered engines by 2014 or the use of fossil fuels for heating and electricity any time soon. Only Nader is proposing that and everyone thinks he is a nut case because of it. Oh, others give lip service to alternative fuels, power plants, or engines, but no one in Congress or the candidates in the major parties are really serious about it.

So they are all in the pockets of the oil interests and we have the best Congress the lobbyists can buy.

Yea, I know.

quote:They want you and me and everyone like us - well, dead. In their minds, everyone else is a target. Killing and mayhem and keeping their own people as ignorant as possible, and therefore controllable, is their ideology. It is how they justify killing 34 Iraqi children yesterday. It is how they justify beheading truck drivers, reporters, and aid workers. It is how they would justify killing you. Are you a Zionist?

umm no. Want some examples of zionist jews in america's power structure? read this: ISRAELI MOLE CALLED MEGA NESTING INSIDE PENTAGON. http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=18178

"For years, the FBI has been convinced that there is at least one
high-level Israeli mole in Washington," {Jane's} adds.

The story also notes that there is "growing unease in some
quarters in Washington about the influence that Israel's right
wing has in US President George W Bush's administration through
the pro-Likud neo-conservatives, largely in the Pentagon," and
though AIPAC and WINEP (the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.)

And it points out how the Mossad seeks out Jews around the
world to serve as informal agents, known in Hebrew as {sayanim}
or 'helpers', and that some of this spying is conducted by the
secret Scientific Liaison Bureau, known by its Hebrew acronym
Lakam, run by the Ministry of Defense, and its equally
little-known successor, Malmab (the Security Authority for the Ministry of Defense).

Here is more: http://www.rense.com/Datapages/zionismdata.htm

"It (labeling people 'anti-semitic') has been a handy and effective weapon which has destroyed countless careers and is responsible for the totally illegitimate Zionist regime. Zionists have cleverly suggested for a hundred years, by smearing their critics as 'anti-Semites,' that the Zionists are the legitimate conquerors of Palestine. Zionists have never actually SAID they were Semitic - just that their enemies are 'anti-Semitic.' Pretty neat...and completely dishonest. But in light of the genuine anti-Semitism of the Zionists it becomes a bizarre obscenity when these non-Semitic aliens accuse their Semitic victims of 'anti-Semitism'.

I believe this is the central issue regarding The Jewish Question. When awareness of this matter becomes more widespread, and it will now, the Zionist state will lose support even from the deluded Christians, who need Semitic-type Jews running "Israel" for the fulfillment of their bloody dreams. The Zionists will be exposed as pseudo-religious gangsters." --J. Bruce Campbell

On The Jewish People
Zionism And Anti-Semitism
http://www.rense.com/general54/hoaoxo.htm

You might also want to read about the role of zionism in the holocaust (http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/holocaust/gedalyaLiebermann.htm)
and how Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush sponsored and helped Hitler in his rise to power (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html).
And how Hitler was related with the Rothschilds: WAS HITLER A ROTHSCHILD? http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html

There is another link I think I posted earlier in this thread about the history of Bush. If it's not there you can do the research yourself if you just care to do so.

Here is one article that I thought very good: BUSH IS HISTORY'S TOP TERRORIST (http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0409/S00286.htm) which blatantly accuses Bush of overthrowing Haiti's elected government and costing them hundreds of lives.

I talked to my mother the other day and she told me her mother in Puerto Rico saw reports on television of an island off the coast of Haiti called Tortuga Island which completely dissapeared according to UN reports under the waves of the ocean, and killing many people, leaving hundreds (perhaps in the range of a thousand) just floating in the ocean. I saw reports of this, and there are links to it on the net to confirm this. How do yuo think this happened? Maybe that earthquake and a huge storm surge that accompanied the tropical storm had something to do with it. Haiti is in total 'chaos' right now. I read that there are alot of zombies and death (people with no soul/light) roaming the streets of Haiti, and it is not a very nice place to be right now.

Bush sponsors mass murders. I've provided enough clues to reach that conclusion so there's no way to get around that if one just does the proper research. But he is paying his debts.

Hey guys, somethings up. I'll just use cut and paste for the posts from STA.

IMPORTANT WEB BOT UPDATE

Half Past Human has closed their site for subscriptions. There is a rumor they might be having financial problems, but with the loss of GLP this week, it is something we should be questioning, especially with their record of direct hits. ARE THEY TOO GOOD?

The bots have been more accurate with predictions than any other I have seen. They are not exact, and they have been wrong in the past. But, the program is in its infancy and, as it has grown, it has been more right-on than not.

I noticed that no one replied to Mystikel's post yesterday about Web Bots.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/members/forum.cgi?read=17811

Of all the posts on this site, I personally think Mystikel's post is the most important of all.

Go back and read it again and keep in mind while reading it, the information was written in August before any of the Calif quakes or even the slightest rumbling of St Helens and the other Pac NW volcanoes.

It is more than Spooky, it's damn scary.

Did anyone predict any of what has been going on today, over a month's ago? Did you see anything on the news about Pac NW Volcanoes? How about big Calif earthquakes? Quite a coincidence huh?

USGS issued an alert yesterday to people who subscribe, warning them of aftershocks/foreshocks in Calif. They gave a 10% chance of bigger Calif quakes happening in the coming days. Note: This is a first for USGS.

Now, we have magma moving under Helens. No one really knows what will happen.

I don't want to alarm anyone by implying the bots are 100%, but they nailed what is happening today dead-on target. Hopefully everything they say is going to happen in the very near future is wrong. But, if they are only 10% accurate in what is still to come,
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Hey, maybe these events have something to do with:

HOMELAND SEC. CYBERSECURITY CHIEF ABRUPTLY RESIGNS

Posted By: Caffeinated
Date: Friday, 1 October 2004, 4:55 p.m.

   I don't like the sounds of this at all. Something's up. My first thought was that he resigned because he has been asked to do something he refuses to be involved with. Any thoughts?

   *snip*

   The Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity chief has confirmed to InformationWeek that he has submitted his resignation.
   Amit Yoran's resignation was effective at the end of the business day Thursday. Yoran accepted the position of director at the National Cyber Security Division in September 2003, a job previously held by special cyber-security advisers to the White House Howard Schmidt and Richard Clarke.

   *snip*

   He gave them mere HOURS of notice, less than a day.

http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=49400205

YOUR GONNA LOVE THIS! *PIC*

Posted By: PIEMAN <Send E-Mail>
Date: Friday, 1 October 2004, 5:53 p.m.

In Response To: Re: IMPORTANT WEB BOT UPDATE (Caffeinated)

   Howdy Caffinated. I must have missed your post earlier. There have been so many lately, it's hard to read them all.

   I was just thinking about the Bot run from early August:

   "The latest web bot runs predict something will happen starting September 2, increasing and with another peak day on September 10, which will percolate out into full public consciousness around September 23 and which will be fully into public discussion and reaction by November 1 - but it has effectively no end date to it. What will "IT" be?"

   I just went back and saw that St Helens went active Sept 24th.

   Check out this pic below. Its a chart showing St Helen's events in Sept. Note the dates....

   (Insert theme from Twilight Zone here! lol)

   http://www.pnsn.org/HELENS/energynum.month.htm
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I dunno, but I just think it's a bit strange also that the totally controlled 'Internet 2' folks had a gathering last week to plan their takeover.

TA-ALARM! Al-Qaeda Releases New Tape Urging Attacks
Posted by: deeprivergal
On: Fri October, 1 2004 @ 04:51 GMT
A tape released allegedly by Al-Qaeda's is calling for all muslims to attack US and UK interests. The tape has not been authenticated yet. It aired on Al Jazeera Television and it is reported that the CIA is aware and is reviewing the tape.

original news source:
foxnews.com
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — An audio tape purportedly released by Usama bin Laden's (search) deputy calls for attacks on U.S. and British interests everywhere, according to a broadcast Friday by Al-Jazeera television.

The Arab station said the speaker on the tape was Ayman al-Zawahiri (search), an Egyptian-born surgeon and the closest aide to the Al Qaeda (search) terrorist group leader. The U.S. government has offered up to $25 million for information leading to his killing or capture.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

According to Al Jazeera the voice on the tape is Ayman al-Zawahiri, Bin Ladens deputy. He is reportedly calling for all muslims, including youth to wait no more. He tells them that they must start resisting now.

   quote:"You, youth of Islam, this is our message," he said. "If we die or are detained, continue the path after us, and don't betray God and his prophet, and don't knowingly betray the trust."


The producer of Al Jazeera claims that the tape was released today. According to the report the entire contents of the tape were not going to be played in full but there was almost four minutes in two clips broadcast.
http://www.terroranalysis.com/story/84347.html
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I'm wouldn't be surprised if any of the world's force of security, thought any type of acclaimed fanatic of a type of religion or idealogy that contradicted their policies and idealogies which they were based on is a potential terrorist as well those who are in opposition to those who use force in darkness to create and breed terrorism themselves.

Osama Bin Laden knows what he is talking about when he refers America as Zionist America. Osama is not living in year 1204, I think it's closer to the year 2004.

quote:True fanatics are master manipulators and they manipulate the young who are indoctrinated into believing they have absolutely nothing left to loose, or anything left to live for.

Sure are.

USA's involvement with Iraq was a strategic occupation in the Middle East to secure oil bases and secure communications with Zionist Israel. Those damn republicans love power, money, and oil

quote:9/11 and the various spin-off wars constantly get mentioned as part of the crazy end-times in which we apparently find ourselves, but in terms of sheer spectacle they pale in comparison to Hiroshima.

There was a nuke set off by North Korea, and I saw satellite images of the clouds over the area and saw what I saw which verified that it was a real nuke. In terms of sheer spectacle, I agree it was said that Kim just did a 'show of force' but did not kill anyone. But what do you think about what this does to the earth?

In the debate last nite president Bush agreed that hia pre-emptive strike policy is like Pearl Harbor in reverse. I think he reveals alot with that statement.

quote:In terms of lives lost they pale in comparison to The Holocaust.

Well I don't know about that in terms of the measure of death globally, but in these days we have much more flow of information globally than we have ever in the times of WW2 especially because we have such *critically* acclaimed media and the free internet. And since even the 60s and 70s the peace hippies, a greater flow of energy and/or embodiment of love and understanding which progressively started the 'New Age' and also more esoteric knowledge was revealed. So then we can prevent another Holocaust from occuring. But some worshipped 'presidences' are walking a path of injustice and we are watching them representing our country(ies). I don't agree with injustice. Do you?

quote:I wonder if the indigenous people of Australia consider Floridian hurricanes to be of major apocalyptic importance.

I read that people in Australia think they are having very unusual weather. How bout asking them?

Hey look GLP is now GOP.com....or rnc.org (alternative adress for the same website).

That is definately weird. Damn republicans... lol