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This is my suggestion this year...

http://www.votenoneoftheabove.us/

http://www.metagifted.org/topics/metagifted/crystalChildren/ChildrenOfTheNewEarth.html

Interesting, for sure.  It might answer some of your questions about why you believe your generation is so strong.

Then again, I might get flamed for posting this after reading everyone's response to neo's post about the topic.

**Ducks and runs for cover**

Enjoy!

I have yet to consciously project and have had only one spontaneous projection that I am aware of.  Although, I believe I had many as a child.  I had a recurring dream of a person being in my room.  My recollection was that it seemed to be a male presence but I was very young, probably not quite 5 yo yet.  It scared me to death.  Now I believe it was my spirit guide.

I'm 34 yo now and have recently began trying to consciously project.  I've not been successfuly but have had many eye opening experiences during meditation and trance.

I know many people report hearing voices and sounds before projection.  My question is whether or not anyone has ever heard people talking directly to them.  I've heard voices like they were spoken right into my ear.  The first time, I heard a male speaking in my right ear, he said "She keeps returning to the place from which she came".  Then a few seconds later, I heard a female voice in my left ear, I do not remember the words.  The voices sounded very electronic.

I have tried like hell to figure out what those words meant.  I'm pretty sure no one can interpret this for me as it was a personal message for me.  

I wondered if anyone has had a similar experience.  If so, were you able to interpret what meaning they had, if the meaning wasn't clear?  These voices didn't seem to be admonishing me, just general observations.  I didn't feel like they were trying to keep me from projecting, but offering advice that I wasn't aware of.  

I would like to add that I don't hear these voices while going about my day.  I've only heard them during meditation and trance.  []

Avalon

Has anyone read The DaVinci Code by Dan Brown?  It was recommended to me by my mother who would not talk too much about it because she didn't want to "give it away" before I read it.

I can't really even begin to tell you what it's all about but the plot seems somewhat complicated, which I love.  My mother said she had some epiphanies while reading it.  

Avalon

Has anyone found that they were able to move their physical body away from their projected body?

After trying to AP late one night, I gave up and rolled over to sleep.  Within about 30 seconds, I felt like I had "spun" or "rolled quickly", I felt dizzy for a moment.  

I have had this experience when I am ill and sleeping.  But in trying to figure out what might have happened, I wondered if I physically turned away from my projected body leaving it laying where I had been and my projected body actually moved back into my physical body.

I've been on the cusp of AP but find that I am unable to "get out".  My  newest technique is actually based on the one spontaneous OBE I had years ago in which I floated straight up to a sitting position in bed.  Imagining I am sitting up in bed seems to be getting me closer than the Rope Technique, Bouncing and all the variations but still no noticable separation.

I already posted about my first astral sight experience.  Unfortunately, as it was happening, I thought I was actually awake and erroneously ended the experience before realizing the possibilities of the state I was in.

I think this happenened to me again last night.  I was having a horrid dream and thought I woke up.  I was still lying in bed and looking at the doorway.  I could see the door, but the illumination of the room was bluish and I specifically remember concentrating on the light filtering in between the door and the door jamb, it was definitely blue.  Once again, I thought I was awake or in other words, I thought I was seeing everything with my physical eyes and fell back asleep.

However, when I woke up this morning it was still quite dark out and the illumination of my room was coming from the hall bathroom which was a bright, white light (not blue), as is usually generated by light bulbs.  It was at that moment when I realized what I saw of my room after waking from my dream WAS NOT the same as what I was seeing when waking up by the alarm this morning.

Does anyone have any experience with this, as far as the "lighting" in a room being a different color with astral sight?  As I realize now that my first experience was also accompanied by bluish light although my room was pitch black.  I'm hoping this happens again soon, now that I'm aware that I THINK I know what astral sight "looks" like.  Maybe I'll be able to use these 2 experiences as a spring board to have a projection, finally. I'm planning on focusing on the "blue" (like moonlight) light to become aware I'm seeing with astral sight not physical.

Thanks!

An odd but interesting and hilarious dream. I think at one point, I became lucid, toward the end.

I awoke early, about 0430 and decided to practice AP.  I got up and moved around a bit, fearing I would give into sleep during practice if I didn't.  When I laid back down to begin practice, I realized I forgot to set the alarm last night, but hoped that my husband did.  I practiced until 0540, when the prospect of sleep became overwhelming.  Still realizing that I needed to wake up at 0600, I decided to chance it.  I fell asleep.  Typically, this is a bad thing for me.  I sleep hard when I wake up early and return to sleep.

I started dreaming that I was at a party, my daughters were there.  It was time for me to leave, so I kissed my kids goodbye.  My oldest got really angry and started giving me a wedgie! Hahahaha!  It was irritating me that she was doing this and refused to stop.  I tried to move but found that I could not (sleep paralysis?).  The pressure was becoming very uncomfortable so I tried to open my eyes but everything looked "funny", so I closed them.  I was literally fighting to wake myself up at this point, so I opened them again and finally looked at the clock.  It was 5:58.  

So, I ask, does my Higher Self have an outstanding sense of humor when trying to make me aware during sleep?  Or was it just coincidence that I felt like my underwear were creeping up my nether regions at the same time I needed to wake up?

Hahahaha!

Hi All!  I'm new here and wanted to thank you all for your great advice.  I've been lurking around for awhile.

After a few weeks of trying to AP, I finally had, in the very least, an astral sight experience last night.

However, I tbought I had awoke from my meditation and was staring at the ceiling. I got frustrated and told myself to close my eyes (It went more like this "WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU IDIOT?  CLOSE YOUR EYES!), then I felt my consciousness shift and realized they were already closed.

I always knew I could talk myself out of just about anything, I never figured I could talk myself out of having an AP though. LOL

Lighthouse, I couldn't agree more that a complete overhaul is needed.
Since public schools are run by government funding, I don't see them changing the curriculm and their teaching styles to accomodate children who they look at as "behavior problems".  I'm saying this and I work for the government.

Not meaning to offend the parents who chose to put their children on medication, I can't seem to do that without feeling like I'm copping out as a parent.  And I think most teachers want "compliant" children in their classrooms despite the growing number of children on med's.  Instead of embracing my child's difference and intelligence, they try to suppress her differences and intelligence.  And instead of inspiring her, they try to change the way she thinks.

At this point, all I can do is be the best advocate for my child.  Even if that means having to confront their teachers and the administrators at their school.

Any suggestions would be helpful, I agree.

Narfellus:  I think sex is what you make it mean.  It can be about love, the simple need for physical attention, satisfaction of a particular desire, income, etc. etc. etc.  I think we label what sex is and what sex isn't by our beliefs and prior experiences.

I am excited to see it too.  Anyone live in or near the Kansas City area who wants to petition a movie theater to see it?  I know of no one who would be as interested in this as I am.

jilola, I completely agree with you on all levels.  What you wrote made a lot of sense to me.  

Don't get me wrong though, I think sex is an important aspect of a relationship for various reasons.  The waning and waxing quality of it in a long term relationship is concerning at times but it certainly doesn't define love or my relationship.  I do think sex can be an expression of love if one chooses to make it so because of it's level of intimacy.

Thanks for your input!

D

Okay, jilola, I've got a question for you pertaining to love and sex (not to bring the conversation "down" at all)...

Most people will probably disagree with me on this subject, I bet, but I'm wondering where the connection is between sex and love.  I don't equate the two.  As a matter of fact, I see sex as a basic primitive instinct (whether it be for the need of physical attention or procreation).  How in the heck did people equate love and sex??

I wonder how often the equation lends itself to sexual dysfunction (mental not physical) in and outside of marriage.  

By the way, this is a great conversation.

I've been visiting the following website for awhile now. It has similar recordings and I have to admit the site itself is extremely entertaining:

http://www.coffeepotghost.com/

Hmmm, and I've always been more worried about how much I deceive myself.  Maybe you should do the same?

According to what I've read, twin flames were one in the beginning and were split (to form 2 souls).  In their reuniting, they are able to transcend normal human relationships.  

It is much like a anam cara.  There are so many different takes on what a soul mate is and is not, it comes down to what it is you choose to believe (isn't everything?).

For an extremely complicated (and much of it is over my head  explanation, go here... http://www.excelexgold.com/about_twin_flames/about_twin_flames_maintext.htm

This conversation reminds me of the  concept of the "Twin Flame".  I got the following excerpt off of a website to define the concept and how it relates to this conversation:

"Did you know that you often attract people into your life who look as you do in parallel or past lives? For example - you are a man seeking a female partner. You will seek out someone who looks and acts if you were a woman - like a mirror image. Your ideal partner is who you are in that physical body! We are always seeking ways to experience ourselves. "

Thanks Greatoutdoors.  That poem was profound.

D

Ceriel, my first two cases were computer intrusion cases.  My forte is UNIX so I imagine a majority of my cases will be computer intrusions.  It's not everyday I get to chat with someone who cracks or hacks or intrudes.  Sorry for the confusion in terms.

If you want to discuss the situation further, let's PM so this thread isn't hi-jacked any further than it already has been.[^]

I imagine we could have some interesting conversation.

Holy Reality - I agree with some of the Patriot Act.  Just like I only agree with some of the laws that I've been vowed to uphold.  I worked in a county jail for 4 years and saw women in jail for stealing food to feed their families.  Although I agree that theft is and should be a crime, I don't think jail is the answer for that woman.  Same with drug crimes.  However, I doubt rehabilitation as well.  I have no answers to the worlds problems, if I did, I would be out there trying to fix the problems not putting people in jail for them.

To the best of my knowledge, and the way I've been trained by the government to the job I do right now, we cannot ask ISP's for information without a search warrant.  Without probable cause of a crime, we cannot get a search warrant.  That determination is made by a judge.  The same criteria hold true for the investigators and agents I work with.  Are there people in the government who can get that information?  Probably.  I do not know so I can only guess.  However, I don't work as a spy or in espionage of any kind.  Hackers have gotten into government computers, why couldn't the government get into personal computers at your home? The question is why would they want to?  

I'm not sure how much the government is involved in remote viewing and seeking out people who are gifted.  I believe they have been involved because of articles I've read (not put forth by the government), but I don't have any proof of it and certainly don't know to what extent at this time.

Just because I work for the government does not mean I think it is problem free.  I have the same feelings about Bush.  How many people always agreed with upper management in their jobs anyway?

Witch hunts? [}:)]  I thought we were all here for the same purpose...  An open forum to discuss various subjects relating to the paranormal, metaphysics, religion, philosopy and so on and so forth. []

If I felt concerned by admitting I work for the governement, or even worse, law enforcement.  I wouldn't have admitted it in the first place.  []

On the other hand, if anyone here feels threatened by my presence, they always have the option to ignore my posts.  I've certanily not been "placed" here to check on illegal activities perpetrated by other members here (it'd be a boring job, I think).  Nor do I have the inclination to police this website and turn people in who might be involved in conspiracy against the government, illegal drug usage, anarchy, hacking or bomb making.

Like your post Dark Knight.  Does anyone know of a large government organization that has not been corrupt in one way or another?

You guys are so funny. I wish I worked for the X-Files. That would be pretty damned cool.  If you check MY profile, my job description is listed there.

I mostly surf from home but I do travel a lot and have been given a laptop to travel with and yes, I do surf the net on it while sitting bored in my hotel room.  Sometimes, I surf at work, usually during lunchtime but since I have 2 laptop computers and 2 desktop computers, at least one of two of them might be sitting idle on a website at anytime during the day.  The other 2 are used for classified material so there is no internet connection.  

The traffic coming from government computers may or may not be me, I have no idea.  I'm just offering another explanation of the "monitoring" theory.  I really do not know if the government monitors websites that discuss the type of material that is discussed here.    

Holy Reality - I am a member of a task force created under the Patriot Act by Ashcroft.  I actually am employed by my local sheriff's department.  I search computers (any storage media) for evidence of crime.  The reason the computer lab task forces were started was due to the events that occured on 9/11.  There were numerous computers owned by Al Quaeda members that needed to be examined for evidence of crime or consipiracy against the government.  However, at this time, a large percentage of our work involves those crimes dealing in child pornography.

Just let me pose a question, do you really think the government would send agents and spies to search website's such as this that promoted the fact they were working for the government?  Probably not.  They'd do it covertly.[]

About the conspiracy theory and government visits, ummm, I visit this site quite often and I do so from a government computer.  The FBI, actually.

I'm not here to spy.  I'm here because I enjoy the site.  Seem kind of strange that some "black suit" would be interested in this stuff without some kind of hidden agenda?  Well, I've never been told I'm normal.  Eccentric maybe.

I have recently gone through what you guys are discussing, or the faith crisis.  I've called it the dark night of the soul though.

Although I never had a firm belief in God, as I've entered my thirties, I've felt something profoundly missing in my life and wondered often if "this is it"?  Is this all?  I get up, get my kids ready, go to work, come home, cook dinner, play with the kids, get them ready for bed, then put myself to bed.  Wash, rinse repeat. [)]

I started feeling depressed.  I found a great book about the subject called "The 5 Stages of the Soul" (don't remember the author off the top of my head right now).  It discusses this feeling, how many people go through it and even more interesting how everyone comes out on the other side enlightened but in many, many different ways.  It says that we so many times "miss the call" throughout our lives.  

Anyhoo, it made me feel a little better that I was not the only person experiencing this.  I thought it was all because I just had no belief in God and at this point never will.  Part of me wants to believe but part of me doesn't want to believe in anything just for the sake of having something to believe in.  I want the truth and I know that's just asking too much.  []

Bah humbug!  So glad I read this just a few short days until Christmas.

I still believe.