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I assume that was supposed to be an insult of some kind. But, no offense Aza, I could barely understand the grammar so the effect rather got lost in the tangle. Perhaps it might be a good idea to become familiar with the language *then* attempt to bedazzle with it? Just a friendly suggestion []

Hi Jimbola,

I'm new here myself but just wanted to extend a welcome! to you =)

Oldlad,

Hi! I'm new here myself so not sure how much help I can really be. I came here hoping to find some insight into OBE vs sleep paralysis myself. I've been experiencing spontaneous episodes of one or the other for a few years now and lately they come usually at least twice a week.

For me, it started with the paralysis, the loud buzzing sound, and the feeling that my body was reverbrating with that buzz. I feel something take my hand and start to pull me, and there's a sense of upward motion but I'd get about halfway up and panic because I felt like the farther up I'd go the less I could breathe.

Oddly, whomever/whatever this other presence is it seems to convey things but not with words, more like you just feel its emotions/thoughts (it gets frustrated when I start to freak out, wants me to stay calm, and seems to be proud when I overcome the panic stage.. go fig). I've gone through at least three attacks with this presence, and twice I wigged out and it intervened, didn't allow me to look at it, and sent me back rather abruptly.

I never see any visions aside from blurr, never hear voices, and haven't even seen any cool landscapes. Mostly, it's just this presence, the pulling, and strange attacks that I liken to being hit by bowling balls of energy (it reminded me of if you took someone's anger toward you and made it into a ball then got it slammed into you where it knocked the wind out of you..that's sort of what it felt like). This being was there for each of these attacks and when I couldn't fend these attacks off on my own it would step between me and this 'ball' that would choke me except there was no feeling of hands or my own neck.. I couldn't breathe, but it wasn't air that it was cutting off. So exactly what it was choking off and from what astral anatomy, I have no idea.

I've read a lot about the similarities between sleep paralysis and OBE. Hallucinations vs entities, etc. When it first started a few years back I was so confused I thought I was either schizophrenic or had a brain tumor. I wasn't into anything even remotely "astral" related at the time and the whole concept was,in truth, an overwhelming new world to try to understand, much less believe in.

I was okay for a while to accept the hallucination/dream explanation except I've found these episodes can be induced by simply closing my eyes, looking up through closed eyes at an imaginary dot at the inside of my forehead and apply a little pressure. With that the buzzing starts and the whole cycle repeats. The only difference I've found is that when I induce these episodes I don't feel myself being pulled away. I can sense that presence near, but it's not actively pulling me and I kind of just hover there. =/  

So I don't know what to make of it anymore. I cringe to talk about this so openly because it seems to only get responses that I'm either making it up, something is wrong with me, etc. These days I'm still searching for answers but I'm much more open to all possibilities.