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Greetings all,

I've read books by Robert Bruce, Robert Monroe & various other authors including Michael Newton who wrote "Journey of Souls".  Whilst I find there is a lot of common ground between these authors, there are some discrepancies.  I suppose if three people witnessed an event you would get 3 slightly different versions, so maybe this is expected.  However, Robert Bruce talks about the 7 astral planes which are hardly mentioned by Monroe & others, Michael Newton & Monroe both mention reincarnation, life reviews etc. which are hinted at by Robert Bruce but don't figure heavily in his books.  I am trying to piece together the true nature of reality and our existence and most of the pieces seem to fit, but some of the discrepancies lead me to wonder whether one or more of these authors has it completely wrong.

I would be interested to hear others' views on this.  Robert Monroe is no longer with us physically and Michael Newton has retired so I can't get their views on Robert Bruce's work.  I'm not sure how much Robert Bruce monitors these forums, but I would be fascinated to hear whether he considers his own views in-line with those of people like Monroe, Newton, William Buhlman etc.  Does anyone know whether Mr Bruce has ever commented on the work of any of these authors?

Thanks

I was interested in Robert Bruce's description of the 7 Astral Planes, all in different layers above each other.

I was quite surprised therefore to find the following verse in the
Quran, the holy book of Islam:

Nuh 15: "Do you not see how Allah has created the seven heavens, one
above another..."

This seems to be more than just a coincidence.  Anyone else have any
thoughts on this?

Hi all,

Would appreciate some advice:  I had an intense experience a few months ago after reading Astral Dynamics; I sat in a chair, got deeply relaxed & tried Rope which didn't work.  Then when I tried to feel like I was floating above my head & looking down at my body, I experienced these huge waves of "energy"?  surging through my entire body, from toes to forehead.  At the same time my heart started pounding like mad.  The closest description I can think of was like being electrocuted without feeling pain.  Pretty sure this was the vibrations, it was so intense I freaked out & it faded away after about 20 seconds as I started tensing up due to extreme fear & shock.

What is really frustrating is that I have been unable to experience this again despite trying probably 20-30 times.  Even recreating the exact conditions, same time of day etc, but nothing whatsoever.  I am almost at the point of giving up, although I am so desparate to repeat this that I'll almost certainly go on trying, for years if necessary.  I even went and bought Monroe's Gateway CDs but they haven't worked yet either.

Does anyone have any similar frustrating experiences or any advice?

Cheers
HH

Reading this thread I'm reminded of one of Richard Dawkins' sayings.  I can't quote it word for word, but it's something like this.  When it comes to Apollo, Zeus, Mars, Mithras, Horus, etc, etc, we are are all atheists.  Some of us just go a bit further and include the Christian god in the list, that's all.

HH

Hi,

I think I experienced them once.  I tried a couple of the techniques in Astral Dynamics, rope didn't work, but when I tried to feel what it would be like to be floating a few metres above my head, I experienced some intense waves of "energy" surging through my body like an electric current, from my toes to my head.  At the same time my heart started pounding like crazy.  This was unlike anything I have ever experienced, far more than the tingly feeling when the hairs on your neck stand up.  This was like being plugged into the electricity supply!  It was so intense that I completely freaked out, I thought it was going to kill me or something.  Whatever it was stopped by itself after about 15-20 seconds.  What is extremely frustrating is that I have been completely unable to repeat it despite many attempts.  Despite this, it made me realise that there really is something to this & it's not just a bunch of nutters making up silly stories.

Good luck!
HH