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#1
I did keep a journal and as a result I think I was better able to recall my dreams. I stopped for a little while, but on your suggestions I have resumed the journal.

I attempted your methods, Ryan, and a very strange thing occurred. It was probably around early morning when my dream became lucid. I am able to recognize certain themes in my dreams that make me realize that I am dreaming and one of those recurring themes is water. My dream immediately became lucid when I dove into a lake. I took your advice by asking the questions "where am I?", "Where am I going?", and "what am I doing?" (Although I forgot to ask myself "how did I get here?"). The dream kind of went a little hazy, but then it came back. So then I attempted the other method of focusing on a single object - I chose my hand. This seemed to work a little; the dream almost went away... but then one of the characters in my dream grabbed my wrist and pulled me back into it (pulling me deeper underwater).

I suppose this is now entering a more psychological field rather than an AP field... but is there any way to prevent or escape this? Or is this a good thing? I also recall feeling very tired when I attempted to keep the dream lucid for an extended period of time.

Thanks guys :)

#2
I kept a dream diary for a while, but then I stopped. I find I am much more able to recollect my dreams now. I am also much more adept at making them lucid. I will try focusing on an object in the dream as well as focusing my thoughts. Thanks!
#3
I wish I had read this post last night! I had more lucid dreams and attempted to AP from them, but was again unsuccessful. I will give your methods a try - thanks!
#4
Since about May, I have been attempting to Astral Project with little success. I have always had some ability to lucid dream, and I believe that when I was a child, I used to astral project quite a lot. Recently I have been lucid dreaming more and more (about 2-3 times/night), and I am still unsure of how to use lucid dreaming to astral project. Could someone please provide me with some advice as to how to astral project from a lucid dream? Thanks :)

Rachel
#5
Thanks for the tips! I will give them a try and let you know if there's any improvement.

I used to lucid dream all the time, but it's been more difficult over the years. Also, I was never really able to "fully" lucid dream. I was often aware of the fact that I was dreaming, and would attempt to change the surroundings, but the changes would never stick or they would be slightly warped. This most recent lucid dream (with the girl and the wind) felt very real and the memory is etched in my mind.

I just want to get out so badly. I guess that could be what is hindering my success - too much effort and thought...
#6
Thanks for the posts! My biggest problem is that I can fall asleep pretty much anywhere anytime in any position. I'm not sure if perhaps a different method would be better (such as waking from sleep or lucid dreaming), but I want to stick this one out because people appear to have the most success from it. I will try propping myself up with pillows, maybe then I'll have better luck.

Any idea about getting out while lucid dreaming?
#7
For the past month and a half I have been extensively researching and attempting Out of Body Experiences. Although I have had some interesting experiences, I have yet to actually "get out" of my body. The first time it happened quite by accident, just after reading someone's post about how to get out, I took a nap and was able to get myself into the vibrational stage. I managed to lift my nonphysical arm out of my body, but somehow it just ended there and I fell asleep.

Ever since then it's been incredibly difficult to get anywhere. The second time, which occurred about 2 weeks ago, I was asleep and dreaming and a little girl in my dream told me that I was dreaming. I was outside in my dream, and as I looked around, I saw that there was a very strong wind and I could actually feel it. Then vibrations started to creep up the back of my neck. I started to think about floating and being out of my body, but was unable to get anywhere and the vibrations just stopped.

The third time I think I dreamt that I had an OBE, however, the memory is still quite vivid. I was standing outside my body in front of my bookcase in my room, however, the bookcase was illuminated as though it was daytime but it wasn't. During the experience, I was convinced that it was a real OBE, but when I woke up I was not quite sure.

I spend around 30 minutes a night trying to induce an OBE through relaxation and affirmations, but I usually end up falling asleep. Would people recommend lying on their backs/sides/fronts? Any suggestions about how to get out would be greatly appreciated. Or even how to avoid falling asleep!! -- I think that is my biggest problem.

Thanks!

Rachel
#8
Hi Truth,

Just wondering if you've had any experience with your guide (it has been over 2 years since your post). I have just recently started to research AP/LD and I am very curious about the idea of a guide. Let me know!

Rachel
#9
Hi Personalreality,

Thanks for your post. I have been reading about AP only recently and I am glad to have read your post so soon after it piqued my interest.

I was so eager to test out your methods that I went to have a nap. I let myself drift to sleep normally (and thankfully this only takes about 2 minutes). Then after a bit of time, I slowly awoke and tried to sink myself into a trance, without really trying. I had to make myself aware of certain sensations in order to not fall asleep again though. While in the trance, I noticed my heart was beating VERY quickly and I heard the ringing in my ears. It was not a consistent sound, but it sounded like many different tones. I was unable to have an OBE, but I did try the wiggle-technique of raising and lowering the essence of my lower arm (no physical movement). I am not sure if it worked though. I did notice whenever I lowered it back into its physical self that I would experience a buzz in that extremity. It was not uncomfortable by any means, but it was a very interesting sensation. Is this normal, or was this just something my mind manifested of itself?

I'd love to hear some more stories of people's first experiences with this. I am going to try again tonight, wish me luck!

Rachel
#10
Hi Personalreality,

Thanks for your post. I have been reading about AP only recently and I am glad to have read your post so soon after it piqued my interest.

I was so eager to test out your methods that I went to have a nap. I let myself drift to sleep normally (and thankfully this only takes about 2 minutes). Then after a bit of time, I slowly awoke and tried to sink myself into a trance, without really trying. I had to make myself aware of certain sensations in order to not fall asleep again though. While in the trance, I noticed my heart was beating VERY quickly and I heard the ringing in my ears. It was not a consistent sound, but it sounded like many different tones. I was unable to have an OBE, but I did try the wiggle-technique of raising and lowering the essence of my lower arm (no physical movement). I am not sure if it worked though. I did notice whenever I lowered it back into its physical self that I would experience a buzz in that extremity. It was not uncomfortable by any means, but it was a very interesting sensation. Is this normal, or was this just something my mind manifested of itself?

I'd love to hear some more stories of people's first experiences with this. I am going to try again tonight, wish me luck!

Rachel