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#1
I haven't been practicing or trying to AP for several months now (work is taking all my time and sucking the energy out of me!), but i kept thinking about it daily, and i knew one day I'll get back to it. During this period i tried projecting a few times and always ended up asleep ....

Last night i felt i was "in the right mood" to give it a try. It was very quiet, and i had a weird feeling of lightness. I laid down and cleared my head as i used to. In what felt like a few seconds, i had already lost sense of my body, i felt like going deeper inside ... Next thing i know, i get this intense feeling of being pulled up! (I'm not sure if i blacked out before that or not, my perception of time was kind of distorted).
It was the first time i ever sensed something that intense while trying to project! It usually takes me some time to relax my body ans clear my mind; i have "reached" the vibrations a few times but i was never able to get through them, whether it was excitement or fear i can't tell, maybe a mixture of both. Weird thing is, last night there were no vibrations, and the whole process seemed so quick!

So, i feel I'm being pulled up, in my mind I'm so sure i separated from my body! I'm also sure i was completely conscient of everything happening to me! But as i was being pulled up, i opened my eyes (i was so sure I'd be looking down on my body or something...). Unfortunately, i see myself lying down, through my physical eyes. I try getting up, nothing! No matter how hard i tried i couldn't even move a finger! I remembered reading about that, i tried not to panic as i heard it would make things worse. After 10min or so of me trying to move my body, i decided to relax and concentrate on my finger, trying to move it inch by inch... I finally got loose, I'm not sure if relaxing and concentrating was the cause, i was just glad to be moving again!

I'd really like to hear your thoughts on what happened with me. I can still remember the ascension feeling, i have never felt something that intense in my whole life! ... Willow
#2
I am in the same situation Eyyoshi, and i think it's as Xanth said, as all the interesting results i got were when i first started, and the more i knew the less i progressed, cause i started expecting specific things to happen. One of the bad habbits i got was putting the vibrations as a goal, which kept me from reaching that state. And the 2 times i got to the vibrations i didn't know what to do next.
Plus, the fact that i read so much on AP seems to limit me, so i decided that i know enough for now...

I took a break a week ago, i'm only doing some exercices, one of my favorite is closing the eyes (wherever i am), and try to quiet my mind and relax; i do it as often as i can. I think a break could do u some good too. I was almost obsessed with AP and used to try every day, i saturated my mind with ideas, techniques and exercises, and still didn't get any result ... i don't think it was the right approach. Now i'm trying to take it easy and let it happen naturally. If i ever feel in the right state of mind, i'll attempt to have an OBE, till then, i'll just keep writing in my dream journal.
#3
There's something confusing me. I thought that phasing consisted on noticing the images of the mind passively, while the rundowns Psilocybillus is describing require active imagination and a whole lot of concentration. So these are two completely different states of mind right?

"Well, nothing at first, there's not much to see really but blackness. But then, after a short while, I may see that perhaps one part of the blackness is not quite so black. Perhaps there was just a brief flash of something, then maybe a sensation of a movement somewhere else. Maybe I just heard someone call my name. Hmm, that's interesting, I might think, I wonder where that came from. But I don't get too curious I just keep noticing. I might see swirling areas of not quite so black as the rest. I might see flashes of this and that. As I am offering myself these images, my attention is steadily becoming more fixated within." (The Frank Kepple Resource)
#4
Yeah Ketamine, i also had a very weird experience while on K. It was 7 or 8 years ago, and at the time i knew nothing about AP and all that. I was at a friend's place and it was the first (and only) time i tried it out. The effect was quick but didn't last a lot about 20-30min. I didn't see my body from an external point of view nor did i separate, i was still looking through my eyes, but i had no control over my body, i mean none whatsoever! It wasn't paralysis either, cause i remember my body walking around the place while i was a mere spectator. My body wandered for a couple of minutes then sat back. It was so weird cause i was aware of everything while it was happening, my physical body was drugged but my mind didn't seem to be affected. I was even able to speak to my friend while my body was walking, and i could see the surroundings very clearly. It was like nothing i experienced before, or since...