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Quote # 2:  Ghosts and poltergeists:  lol.  No
Quote # 7:  If it bothers you:  All I meant is that what bothers me about others is often just the same thing that bothers me about myself.  It is just being pointed out to me in someone else.  I can get upset and stay that way or I can learn from it.
I have learned that the less I get emotionally attached to all the myriad view points the happier I am.  I can take a look at what uplifts me and also what bothers me the most.  The rest are significant for others but not for me.  Unless you just enjoy them without attachment.
Quote # 8:  Shame:  Cute.  Actually I used to feel shame.  Now I feel understanding.
Quote # 9: (I think)  Stop taking people's free will away:  Okey Dokey.  Thanks.
Quote # 11:  Pass to Go card:  Absolutely not.  But Old Man Karma doesn't zoom out of the sky and whack us on the head either.

What part is a contradiction?  I'm sorry, I'm not grasping that point

Ya, I wasn't very clear, was I.

on the 'other side' there is no pain, no anger, no sadness, nothing like that.. just complete peace.  You cannot learn about hate, greed, anger, jealousy, ego, etc. when all you feel is love.

There is anger, sadness, jealousy and ego on the other side unless you have eradicated those hindrances on this side.  On the other side you don't automatically feel nothing but love. It is not a 'there' as compared to 'here'.  As you said, total love is there but it is also here.  The physical world is also a 'plane' of existence.  It is linked with every other plane of existence, not separate. The main difference is that on the low vibratory physical level we get smacked in the face with it all.  "Here" you simply can't stick your hand in fire and not learn that it is a mistake.  Humans continue to learn and grow on the higher vibrational levels but at a slower, gentler pace.  You have to be brave to take on lessons on Earth.  Humans who evolve to a place where there is ONLY peace and love can waste a bunch of time there, not learning anything.  When they are ready to get back to business, it can be quite a shock.
"Perceptions" or view points are neither correct nor incorrect.  Except to those stating them.  They are a dime a dozen.  Mine, yours, everyone's.  Any view point can be looked at as whether it rings with your own truth .  Or it can be, if it bothers you, as how to figure out why it bothers you.  You use it to learn about yourself.  Otherwise other people's perceptions can just be left alone unless you like being unhappy.
Ya, I've got plenty of shame and hurt too.  You look at it and it hurts and you work like hell to figure out how to be better next time and let go of the past.

And what goes around comes around... LOL what's wrong with that?

Not a thing if that's your perception.  To me it is a simplified twist of truth.  People seem to use this statement in two ways.  One, someone upsets them and they say or think, "Well, what goes around, comes around (you sob) or two they see you are upset and they try to make you feel better by saying it.   As in, don't worry, they will get theirs.  So, in essence, they are creating a circle of revenge.  Around and around it goes... and in this way we stay on the wheel of karma.  This statement is usually made toward someone else, that person not realizing that their anger, hurt and judgement will also come around to themselves.  That's why I wish people would think about it more deeply, but that's just me, LOL  Karma isn't punishment.

I think the reason why we have to incarnate on physical planets is because on the 'other side' there is no pain, no anger, no sadness, nothing like that.. just complete peace.  You cannot learn about hate, greed, anger, jealousy, ego, etc. when all you feel is love.  Even people who kill on this plane when they die are wrapped in love and it depends all on them how they want to move forward.  I believe that when we die we judge ourselves, not some god sitting on a throne.  I also believe that we relive every emotion, not just full on emotion from ourselves but how we made others feel.  I know how it feels in the physical to judge yourself, and I can just imagine what a learning tool for your soul it would be to feel the true emotion of the others you've pained.  After so many lives, I imagine you stop hurting others because that self judgment is a kick in the arse.

I like what you have said, Naykid.  I notice a little contradiction.  If on the other side everyone is 'wrapped in love' and then there is self judgement, so is the other side nothing but peace and love?  At what level is everything peace and love?  Is that peace and love 'out there' or is it here with you?  If we grow to the point where it is here with us all the time then, IMHO, we have achieved our purpose.  At that point it's not that we like or condone some of the things that go on in the physical world, it's more like we have compassionate understanding of it all.  The love and peace we live in rolls off to others and helps them along the path.

And this brings me to the judgment thing called the Karma system on here.  I'm sick of being judged by people that really have no idea who I am and what I'm about except what they see on a message board on the internet.  I hate this system and wish Adrian would take it off the boards.  My damned karma keeps going up and down because of a some on here that seem to think they have the key to the world's rule book.  I hate feeling judged like that and I can't imagine why Adrian continues to allow it.  I've seen ppl be complete asswipes on here and their karma is thru the roof... why is that?  I know why it is...

Well, right here is a lesson in karma for you.  The more you attach and react to what others are doing, the more your karma will go up and down.  Karma isn't judgement and if I could somehow get rid of that stupid saying, "What goes around, comes around" I would!

I have noticed that, but I feel almost to share what I know.

Sharing is fine but what you 'know' so far is incomplete.  Remember the maxim, "We don't know what we don't know".  There is a difference between sharing from the heart and taking your own experiences and concluding that they are the final word that everyone must be subjected to.

I think that your clicking and hallucinations have a lot more to do with you than they do with me.

It reminds me of something I read once about a man who had a dream and he thought this dream was extremely important to him and everyone.  He was very sleepy but forced himself to sit up and scribble it down.  In the morning he read his scribble and it said, "Mary had a little lamb.  Its fleece was white as snow...".
Be humble.
Regards,
E

Well, maybe you could call her again and try to set up a meeting with her.  She is certainly a key player in your mysteries.  If she is willing I'll bet she could unravel a few things.

[ROFL]

ROFL

I hope you don't get caught up in the A B split.  It is all you.

And  I'm bursting with curiosity, what for abilitys should I have which I don't know.
I don't know how I will find them out.

Little by little, I would guess.  Intuitive understandings, knowing something before it happens, strong nudges to do something (like learning English), having something like a book kind of pop out at you from a shelf, dreams that remain vivid in your memory - many things.  You have gifts that you will grow into.  Keep your patience and curiosity.  Stay balanced in your daily life.

This must have you very perplexed, Voyager.  You could just view it as an extremely interesting thing that has happened in your life - hold it in your memories and enjoy and wonder about it - and keep it at this light level, not worrying about it.  Knowing that things will unfold for your understanding when you are ready.

Just some thoughts - take them with a grain of salt.
1.  It almost sounds like you hypnotised the teacher rather than the other way around.  Not on purpose, you just have abilities you are not aware of.
2.You may have inherited from your past some outstanding psychic abilities.  You don't remember these abilities or why you have experiences like you describe.  They are way deep inside. 
3.  I don't know how much you care about understanding yourself.  Something like you have described can be like a nugget of curiosity that you would like someone to explain and then you are done with it.  On the other hand if you are interested in exploring any psychic abilities further, you need help and direction and I sure wish I knew where you could go for that.  A whole lot of people, even doctors, priests/ministers, psychologists and friends simply wouldn't understand or even care to understand. 

If nothing else your experience should tell you that we and our minds are intricate beyond anything we can imagine.  May I suggest that you ask for help and understanding from your own inner self.  Just ask with all sincerity as you would in a prayer. 

Funny, guys.

About 1/3 the way through I was tempted to throw the bath water out but there is a bit of a baby in there too.  So I read it all.  It's imressive that he/she was able to take all of these random revelations and thoughts and put it into words.  Some writing skill there.  Not ready to write a book or save the world yet, though.

Grza, have you noticed that someone who knows the one and only answer doesn't say much about it?  As someone coined, " It can only be caught, not taught".  I really liked your "hallucination" of the two doves.  And your interpretation of the meaning.  You could have shared that and said nothing else and I would go away with a smile.

Movies can have some deep threads, but I'm not going to watch any movie to validate any philosophical or religious claims.  Also, I appreciate all that Science has discovered but also that, as of yet at least, Science is still searching and changing and prolly will for a looong time.

Your comment that "[color=red"They[/color]knew that someone like me...."  Red flag!

Your title is inappropriate, irrlevant and insulting.  Tweak my curiosity again in about 20 years.

Hi Luke,

You have imagination, intent, persistence and these are good qualities.  You will get where you want to go, I'm sure.

I don't know about the different body reaponses you are getting, the twitching and shudder.  It seems to feel different to you but maybe your strenuous workouts have something to do with it.?  Some chemical imbalance like sodium or calcium??  I don't know.

Are you familiar with the different levels of your being?  Physical, etheric, emotional, mental and soul?  Very interesting to study up on if you aren't.

I've been reading the pdf file about a guy named Frank who used to post on here. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/franks_posts_pdf-t31449.0.html
This is a very gentle man with loads of AP experience.  Maybe he could help you find a direction to your efforts that isn't so frustrating to you.

Also you could spend time, if you haven't already, reading the many different threads here.  Many have shared common experiences, joys, questions, fears, and frustrations.  Answers can be found if you tune in and not out.
Regards,
E

Why was your mind "exhausted"?

Why was your mind "shattered"?

Hi Ruu,

I read your first sentence and I'm thinking, This person is highly emotional.  Then I read on and you actually define the intensity of your emotions.  I had to chuckle.

Your dreams are not INSANE.  Your mind is simply trying to put all of your waking actions and emotions into perspective.

I sense that for you some affirmations might be helpful.  Something as simple as saying to yourself, "I am calm and relaxed now" and repeating that a lot.  And maybe, "Whereever I am is the right place to be".

You may find that if you can get yourself into a relaxed state and not struggle so hard, your efforts at projection will be more fruitful.  It's not calisthenics.  It's a peaceful wonder and allowance.

I've been reading Franks posts as collected by Xanth.  What a wise, kind man!

Isn't that cool, Alpine9, when you ask a question and before it's all said and done you get your own answer?!  That happens to me often.  Of course, a year later my answer often changes or should I say, broadens.  I remember asking a question 10 years ago that I have just now begun to really understand.  Well, okay, 100 questions  .

I'm in tune with all the responses here.  Your path is your life, whether you are a householder or a guru.  As you spiritualize that path you begin to live in a different way.  For example, you don't curse that you have a pile of dishes to do and you are tired.  You have an accident and you don't fall apart over it.  Joe or Jane says something really irritating or against anything you 'believe' and you allow it without judgement.  You begin to see that the conditional world is just karma running off and not what you, they, and everything really is.  Negative attitudes begin to be replaced with positive character traits.

There is always that 'veil' on the physical level where we don't remember.  It is a very compassionate structure.  I know someone who, when she began to remember some past lifes, killed herself - and she was in her 30's!  So ya, baby humans are not geared to withstand all of that.  It's a continual maturation process.  If you get to the point of knowing your true self, past lives and other understandings begin to be revealed.  The Buddha had - what - 800 lives he remembered before he was ripe enough to set himself free.

There can be a confusion between physical life purpose and our true purpose.    What is the 'right' job, how should I fix my hair, who should I marry and on and on.  We use physical and mental properties to figure these things out and if we make mistakes, we do something different.
By true purpose I mean how we do our job, how we treat our spouse and children,  whether we are pretty and how we fix our hair (other than being presentable to society), how we rise above anger and jealousy et al.  Whether we can see a beggar on the street and know he is also on the path (as you've all pointed out) and love that part of him/her that is the same as us.

CES/NET (Brainmax) is not poison, x-ray radiation, nuclear radiation, or a cell phone.

A machine that is designed to record brain wave patterns, like an electroencephalogram, is entirely different than a machine which introduces Hz frequency patterns through the brain.  The BrainMaster is designed to be sold to professionals (mostly) because they can interpret the readings given out.  I can't read an EEG.  Can you?

Dr. Meg Patterson, the pioneer of the use of cerebro-electric-stimulation (as it is called in the UK) did a lot of her work in the UK.

Where do you find Frank's method?

That is just what I recently experienced, Bluewhisper.  I wasn't in any deep meditation or anything.  It just came over me while I was working!  I called out inside, "I am longing for God so much that my chest actually aches".  I heard inside, "Open the door and let him in".  It was just as you describe.  A wonderful and life changing step forward.

Sounds good, Jarrod.  Maybe you could ponder or contemplate on the notion that rather than being abstract, it is extremely personal.  Maybe you could ponder on it being not so much a feeling but a Beingness.  At a certain level you are that already.  But you also want a full range of experiences.  So do I. 

For me the 'aim' of meditation is to "Be still and know that I am God"  All along the way to getting there you experience all kinds of different levels of awareness, apparitions, sounds, lights, various levels of thought, visions, etc.  You can go into any of these and experience them or you can Be still and know that I am God.  Depends on your motive.  I can go to a party and dance and have a great time.  I can experience a visual scene on the inner and have a great time.  I can be aware of some of the 'higher' thoughts because maybe I'm being told something important.  You observe but you don't get hooked.

The word trance is bandied about quite a bit.  Your wonderful experience of the shifting of consciousnes was a little trip into a higher vibrational awareness.  Would you call it a trance?  I dunno.  Call it whatever you want.  The importance is the experience of it and not its label.

Right or wrong, I associate a trance state with an altered state of consciousness in which you are no longer aware of what is going on.  As in, She went into a trance state and so and so spoke through her and she did not remember any of it.  Edgar Cayce went into what might be called a trance state to bring through knowledge from the Akashik plane.  He needed a secretary and a tape recorder.  So a trance state can be a valid and useful experience.  Again, it depends on your motivation and intention.

Beautiful comments.

Alpine, if you begin to understand the difference between your ego self and your Soul self, you will begin to recognize how you change in evolution from day to day, maybe minute to minute   This is a normal question one asks when they get on the path to enlightenment.  How am I doing?  How am i in comparison to Jane Doe over there?  When these questions become less and less relevant in your thinking you know you have come aways.

Your ego self defines you as a personality and its character.  As in 'I am a man'.  'I am generout'.  'I am a lazy creep'.  'I am a store clerk'.  And on and on.  This is an important function of being human.  You don't need to do away with it.  You just continue to rise above it.  When you do the ego changes its perspective and recognizes you wherever you are.  But the ego is stubborn and hates to let go of its patterns and conditions.  What we are all trying to do is , not kill the ego, but put it in its rightful place.

As has been pointed out here you begin to pay attention.  What are you thinking, saying, doing, feeling and what is the cause of all these.  Usually you will find that what you think, say, do and feel are are the results of past programing and sometimes it is very painful to realize why you are where you are.  You are a complex mix of skillful qualities and unskillful qualities.  And you can, consciously and forgivingly practice, again as has been pointed out here, changing the patterns of how you think, speak, feel and do and how you react to what life throws at you.


So you become aware of your ego self.  You begin to realize that this awareness is a pretty cool place.  This awareness is not your ego.  It is in a higher vibrational pattern of yourself.  What and where is this awareness, you wonder.  It seems to be a 'place' where you feel better about youself, others and the world in general.  You begin to practice being in this awareness.  You go into it and out of it, into it and out of it but you keep practicing.  You do because the results - what you see trickling down into your physical self is an enhancement of every part of you.

My practice includes maintaining my attention or awareness on the energy center, or vibraional pattern of the third eye.  It also includes devotional practices, quieting the mind chatter, and the nitty gritty of being kind to all.

Ah!  I think I get it now.  What I said, "i and I", is still a case of separation, isn't it.  Thanks!

Hi Catsmeow,

Yes, it is battery operated.  Two little AA's enclosed in a small CD player.  The type of CD player used is important; It delivers the correct amount of current.  If you took the Brainmax itself, the little black box, and hooked it up to a big, powerful stereo, you would get a zap.  The 10 ma you quote is not continuous.  It pulses for about 10% of the time and is off for 10 times that long.  The Hz frequencies are played on a CD in a CD player and the electrodes are placed on the head to deliver a very small amount of therapeutic electricity, about the same amount that is within the brain itself.  It has absolutely no comparison to ECT.

If you take the therapeutic index of anything - aspirin, water, anything, and multiply it by even 1000X you are going to be hurt by it. The brainmax is very safe, very legal and does not hurt you.  It has the biggest safety margin of any therapy out there.

The therapeutic index is 1000/1.  It is really moot whether ECT is 1000 times or 10,000 stronger current than NET.  ECT will hurt you.  NET will not.   You could not stand it if the CES/NET units delivered too much current.  It would be painful and you would rip the thing off.

"60-70 ma can be lethal according to....."  But of course.  That's 6-7 times stronger than NET and it dependes on how that electricity is delivered and at what frequency.

Bottom line is, though, if you don't trust something, don't use it.  No one is asking you to.  Thousands upon thousands of people have, including me with no side effects and some really great results.

Hi Stookie,

Did i give advise or did I give advise? 

     I have been looking into the matter of existence and have become very perplexed by the notion that we are all God himself, herself or itself.  It's something that I have suspected for a long time but now that I have read it in a published setting from Robert Bruce, I really do not know how to deal with it.
     Isn't the idea that there is only just one  underlying being that we are all a part of  extremely frightening and lonely?  That means that whenever I go outside and talk to someone, I am just God himself talking to himself, using control of time and space to make it appear that he(I) is talking to another being.  Suddenly I feel like I'm going crazy, like a boy who has has pretended to be many different characters but at the end of the day is all alone, listening to the emptiness of his own voice in different tones.
    Imagine that every other poster on this forum is YOU, and suppose you ask a question. The poster who answers your question is simply YOURSELF switching over to assume the role of that responder, but it is done at the same time that you ask the question, yet in a different dimension in time and space so it appears that you and the poster(you again) are seperate entities with a seperate consciousness. What are the other people's thoughts on this idea?  Are we or if we want to be accurate, you should ask yourself "AM I" alone in existence?  Please someone with experience give some insight on this as I am not a spiritual person and do not understand anything.  Iwas hoping to contact Robert Bruce but cannot find his contact information

Hi Bluetigerx3,

But that is the whole point.  You are a spiritual person but because you have not yet experienced the Truth, you feel like you' re not.  At this point you are the seeker of Truth and that puts you farther ahead on the Path than lots and lots of folks.  You will not be satisfied with mysticism and just Believing.  You want to know, to experience, and you will but it will not come in a fell swoop.  It will not come by racking your brain over it.  One eventually relaxes and surrenders into it.  Sounds easy,hey?  But it isn't.  Feeling sad or depressed is a hallmark that you are far away yet from your goal.  The hallmark of finding the truth, love and oneness is joy.

To find the Source of all that IS requires the discovery of who you really are.  At that point you begin to live as that.  You begin to relegate the mind, emotions and body to their rightful place as the tools to manifest who you really are.  At that point you no longer have to stuggle with mind games and emotions run amok.  It's a kind of Beingness that promotes calm and peace.  You won't end there.  There's much more but you must come to this point first.

How do you do that.  There are hundreds of religions and philosophies to follow.  some are good, some aren't.  There are hundreds of self-proclaimed masters.  Some are good, some are better, some have actually experienced God Realization,  some are just parroting words they have memorized and some are to stay away from.  Your heart intuitively knows Truth when you see it.  Your emotions and mind can be confused and fooled.  Studying the original founders of the major religions and philosophies is a safe bet.  You will find that their progression to realization was a result of much work and dedication.  Years, lifetimes of it.  Be patient.  We start from where we are and practice going within ourselves and sincerely wondering , Who am I, really.  We practice discerning the difference between conditional appearances and what is constant, forever, and therefore real.

The conditions of feeling frightened or lonely will eventually give way to great fullness and serenity by understanding that you are part and parcel of the Source as is everyone and everything.