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Perhaps it is simply a repeating pattern, a vibration which either intensifies or not.  As the pattern builds on itself, it increases it's vibration in terms of geometery, thereby giving rise to the semblance of physicality which we perceive as reality.  In meditation, we can learn how to stop the vibration, and then, look out!  Cuz once you are at FULL STOP, then you can potentially escalate your vibration to any possible pattern of vibration.

If vibration is an oscillation, or undulation, then it has a pattern which we perceive.  At different frequencies of vibration, we would require the basis of the chakra in order to have the dimensional capacity to perceive those frequencies.  Some people say that everything is happening at once, both past and future, all spaces, all minds.  Perhaps in meditation, as the lotus opens, we can undo the damage that our biased beliefs and censorship of what we like and don't like, has done.  Then, we are free to patch into any vibrational spectrum that we would 'like' or not like, as it were.

For instance, as a physical being, we have five primary senses.  They say that each of those senses are connected to a chakra.  I forget the naturally occuring order in the system that I studied.  It was a book called 'energy ecstasy and your seven chakra' by Bernard Gunther.  An excellent read with poetic style.  Yet, if we consider that space is infinite in all directions, both within and without, all around, in every angular momentum or trajectory of impulses, then perhaps open minds and free hearts are all that make us who we are.  The rest is simply resisting what exists, which would be, not just one universe of repeating voidal implosions (mass), but an Omniverse of unlimited potential and absolute existence.

That entire message just blew me away. Bravo.

I will have to check out this book.

To everyone who's replied: Thanks for the feedback and entertaining my whack-o theory. I am starting to see I may be overanalyzing things.

There just seem to be so many sides, that divide our species... Even though the most part we all seem to want the same basic things (love, goodness, and unity amongst ourselves)

I wonder how it got that way in the first place... Anyway, kind regards.

Congratulations dude, I had a similiar experience this morning, though not as vivid or controlled. Let's both keep practicing, it can only get better from here my friend

very early this morning I was laying down and my entired body seemed to be tingling, I pushed myself forward just to end up from on my bed to on the floor. I thought hmm, I better get back up, and suddenly, without any physical effort on my part I was bac on the couch.

Cool, I though, I must have been out of body. I was pretty easy for me to repeat this like 2 or 3 times.

However, once out of body I kept finding myself back on floor level, I would will myself forward to go forward, but it felt like I was slither on the ground O.o

So I tried to use my astral arms and legs to stand up, but they seemed to also be in sleep paralysis.

One of the times I went OBE I seemed to just melt through the surface I was laying on, but again on the floor.

So my question is why did I have a hard time once I found myself OBE, and one can I do in the future to have more control? Again, I tried willing myself up, I tried using my astral arms and legs just for them to fail me (they felt as paralyzed as my physical body)

Its Photo-manipulation. How do I know this?

Because I do it for a living and it's easy to find out.

It's not even very good.

This is the real girl without digital manipulation.

That's a relief. But how do you know that picture isn't from before the 'surgery'? lol just kidding, now that you mention it, it does look like photoshop or something, especially those big swirly breasts.

I stumbled upon this news story, while searching google news for articles on astral projection (I actually wanted to find a scientific study that proved it to show a friend)



and this is what I found

'Living Doll' Valeria Lukyanova Talks About Being A 'Human Barbie,' Internet Star And Astral Projection Teacher


Valeria Lukyanova

For many, Valeria Lukyanova -- the Ukrainian girl with the tiny waist and doll-like eyes referred to as a "Human Barbie" -- was merely an online phenom dreamed up by a crafty animation artist. But V Magazine took on a task to bring the "Living Doll," as she is sometimes dubbed, to New York City for a photo shoot where 21-year-old Lukyanova opened up about her life.

But so far, with the exception of her appearance, Lukyanova has been a mystery. Even her appearance at times has been mystifying, though the girl who calls herself "Amatue," which means goddess of the sun, has given makeup tutorials on how to obtain her out-of-worldly look.

So what's a day like for this real life Barbie doll who hails from Tiraspol, Ukraine?

"In the morning I work on my face and I get a massage, then I spend some time on the Internet," Lukyanova told V magazine. "I meditate and travel in my astral body, and after that I work out at the gym. I go for a walk with my best girlfriend, I get home, and I make dinner for the man I love. Then I spend some more time on the Internet, do some reading and meditating, and go to bed."

As V Magazine explains, Lukyanova had been posting videos since November last year but became an Internet sensation when Jezebel discovered YouTube channel in April. But one thing she forgot to mention in her daily routine is dealing with loads of criticism on the Internet. Thankfully, Lukyanova said she doesn't let haters get her down.

"I know the other side of celebrity is negativity, but I see it in a positive light. If people care about me, then I am on the right path," she said. "I'm happy I seem unreal to them, it means I'm doing a good job. It's hard work, but they dismiss it as something done by surgeons or computer artists. This is how they justify not wanting to strive for self-improvement. "

V Magazine also learned the Security Service of Ukraine monitors Lukyanova's activities, according to the source, that linked up the magazine with the real-life Barbie.

"Be careful," the source said. "We're worried for you, and do not want you to suffer from her."

Perhaps it's because Lukyanova also spends her spare time as an "astral projection" teacher at the School of Out-of-Body-Travel, which she explained is a school to teach oneself how to go on a spiritual journey.

"It's an international school in which our instructors show students how to leave their physical body and travel in their spiritual body, where you can visit any place on the planet and in the universe," she said. "I know that this is the future of mankind and that it has huge potential."

In addition to her job as a living doll and teacher of spiritual journey, Lukyanova is also an aspiring musician in "new age opera," which she writes during her out of body experiences.

She's also a professional mountain climber.

And she's aware she helped start a living doll movement, with other key players like Dakota Rose and her own friend, Anastasiya Shpagnia.

"Indeed, I've noticed a trend," she said. "Every good-looking woman with fine features and a slim figure looks like a doll. I won't deny that I play along with people's perceptions. I'm amused by the reactions. I don't take it seriously."


http://www.ibtimes.com/living-doll-valeria-lukyanova-talks-about-being-human-barbie-internet-star-astral-projection-teacher - source

The trickster argument has actually an innate property which makes it impossible to really discuss for me. It's similar to what is meant by philosophers when they're speaking about "Infinite Regress" while discussing creation / origin of consciousness, the universe(s), reality/realities, god, etc.

It seems to be the same here. You see, we can always ask "what if is this or that is just a trick?", and then the other person tries to justify it with sth and and you ask again "and what if that is another trick?", and so on and again and again ... infinite regress.

Skeptics do a similar thing in their rhethoric. Some religionists do the same, e.g. Christians telling you again and again that AP or past life data gained by hypnotic regression is is "not real" or maybe just a seduction of the devil or of evil demons to keep you from the "truth" of the holy scripture. Then you say you have proof and they respont again 'what if it's a trick by the devil who put it there so you could find it'?.

When it comes to this it's rarely about truth however, it's just RHETHORIC to sell you some made-up "truth" (based on fear). So we don't know the basis of the 'evil' and fear-based version either.

That's just my two cents which I cannot prove, because it's intuition only. Maybe it's intuition after all which is the only thing that will tell you if it is "real", honest or 'not a trick / trap' or else.

So discussing this doesn't lead to anywhere useful for me.  

Well I don't know what your world views are, but (sorry) what if religion and science, are just two polar opposites far from the middle (truth) and the astral argument is there in the christian community, placed by a misleading higher entity, just so that when people from the new age/spiritual movement come across it they see that argument as tainted because it's origin seems to come from the other extreme?

Do you see what I'm saying? There is a lot of criticism on the new age spiritual movement, and who's to say that much like the criticism drawn to religion and science it isn't warranted

Religion, philosophy, spirituality, science, politics even all seem good at face value. We want to apply OUR understanding of how things ARE and we don't want to listen to your side because our side is the way for truth.

But what if all sides contain only half truths, covering up the garbage and filth.

We are lured in by the half truths, and we disregard the scattered truth placed in other sides?

This seems far from a pointless argument.

You know the phrase all is one, one i all? Well we either all make it or none of us make it, and recently we seem to be at war as a species.

At war as a species.

Kind regards

This is a double post, I meant originally to just draw some chit chat, with a crazy theory of mine. The more I draw from it, the more it started to make sense in a disturbing kind of way. And I will not apologize for the double post, knowing full well that I am violating the rules, but I think once you hear me out, and read this message in it's entirety, you will see why I am so worked up over this. And You will see why I want this community to focus primary on this topic, if only for a moment.

I just had this idea that may sounds far fetched. But what if all we are all part of some game on a massive playing field?

I know there seems to be a popular concept out there. from nothing came a singularity, and from that came duality. And now duality should take us hopefully into Unity.

What if unity is a lie, what if love is a challenge, along with the right to mate due to thousands of years of human programming?

What if humanity has been playing this dualistic game for years, and the main chakras are levels?

What if each chakra presented a new challenge. Each challenge having something to do with the chakra.

Level 1
The root chakra was easy, we just bonked ourselves up to level 2. next.

Level 2

The spleen chakra, in which social skills were thrown into the mix before we were able to level up baby, and make a.... well a baby.

level 3

In which emotions were thrown in and thus our populous was forced to deal with drama AND social skills before leveling up, baby. baby. baby (okay, i'll stop now, you get the idea)

level 4

Now with the addition of the Heart chakra love is thrown into the mix, love in all it's messiness. Remember now, without love there would be no loneliness. Love, when it comes to producing ones offspring is just another challenge.

Level 5

What if at this stage of the course of humanity is when we achieved verbal communication skills, a whole other challenge. Perhaps at this stage is when we had to master oral communication to precipitate the heart of our mate, to get her emotions (solar plexus) going, emotions to make her socialize with us just we we could plant the seed. Voila, game over. Well, no, not yet you see.....

Level 6

The third eye, what if this is our greatest achievement as humanity up until this point.

Level 7

What if.... We conquered esp (or at lease the potential for esp)

What if during the last golden age esp was even a part of the mating ritual.

So then what is our current challenge? OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET!?

Well to survive the physical world, we have had to overcome lions, tigers, bears, bacteria and virus with its own agenda, plants that can eat certain animals (and who knows what other scary thing from nature died out, but still our ancestors had to survive these brutal things.

So what if these 'higher' entities are just another set of lions, and tigers, and bears. using all of our senses to fool us. What if they want to take our spot as the dominant species? what if they are trying fool us to snare ourselves into a bear trap, so to say, by dividing and tricking us all (maybe even opening people's minds to the point where a doorway is possible to invade their bodies)

And to do so they have tricked us all time and time again, misleading religious leaders, politicians, rock stars (aleister crowley), and perhaps even you and i....



What if their intention all along was to weigh us down by a ton of karma on each and everyone of us by tricking us telepathically to trick one another communicatory, to trick one another emotionally, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER SOCIALLY, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER AND GO bonk OURSELVES  and dividing us from truth? Hmm. I mean, if that was their plan, it seems to be working.

Maybe that explains the pyramid. It reminds me of the song eye in the sky by Alan Parsons, man, talk about symbolism.


For those of you not familiar with the lyrics.

I am the eye
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can treat you blind

Wow, I did not mean for any of this to make so much sense. I don't know what else to say really other than discuss. If this is true higher entities could be posing as higher selfs, but perhaps to them we are nothing more than bears waiting to be trapped, or cows waiting to be slaughtered

This is something that seriously has to be considered by this community as it consists of people who are very intouch with their sixth sense.

Perhaps six six six number of the beast, is fear mongering!

This is making too much sense guys... Connect the dots, and ask your own tuition on this and see if it resonates with you at all. DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR HIGHER SELF ON THIS CONCEPT, this is something that you should only trust your intuition on, your dna is encoded with your ancestors memories.

Discuss.

Edit: Also what if astral projection was meant to be the next first step for finding one's mating partner. It would seem to be the proper first step to dating for an enlightened society right?

I mean in the astral world when dealing with another human being soul I hear you can see their truth, as well as their lies. So it seems if we were enlightened as a species as opposed to bars (getting drunk and looking for a partner? what?) we would go onto the astral plane and find our perfect enlightened match while being full of clarity.... leading to a utopia......


Which by definition doesn't exist. But by whose definition? This is weird. I keep finding more dots. Will update. I welcome other people to connect dots here too. I don't know if this is true or not. I feel so uncertain about everything these days. I think this topic HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY what if december 21 2012 is game over?

[IMMEDIATELY]

I just had this idea that may sounds far fetched. But what if all we are all part of some game on a massive playing field?

I know there seems to be a popular concept out there. from nothing came a singularity, and from that came duality. And now duality should take us hopefully into Unity.

What if unity is a lie, what if love is a challenge, along with the right to mate due to thousands of years of human programming?

What if humanity has been playing this dualistic game for years, and the main chakras are levels?

What if each chakra presented a new challenge. Each challenge having something to do with the chakra.

Level 1
The root chakra was easy, we just bonked ourselves up to level 2. next.

Level 2

The spleen chakra, in which social skills were thrown into the mix before we were able to level up baby, and make a.... well a baby.

level 3

In which emotions were thrown in and thus our populous was forced to deal with drama AND social skills before leveling up, baby. baby. baby (okay, i'll stop now, you get the idea)

level 4

Now with the addition of the Heart chakra love is thrown into the mix, love in all it's messiness. Remember now, without love there would be no loneliness. Love, when it comes to producing ones offspring is just another challenge.

Level 5

What if at this stage of the course of humanity is when we achieved verbal communication skills, a whole other challenge. Perhaps at this stage is when we had to master oral communication to precipitate the heart of our mate, to get her emotions (solar plexus) going, emotions to make her socialize with us just we we could plant the seed. Voila, game over. Well, no, not yet you see.....

Level 6

The third eye, what if this is our greatest achievement as humanity up until this point.

Level 7

What if.... We conquered esp (or at lease the potential for esp)

What if during the last golden age esp was even a part of the mating ritual.

So then what is our current challenge? OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET!?

Well to survive the physical world, we have had to overcome lions, tigers, bears, bacteria and virus with its own agenda, plants that can eat certain animals (and who knows what other scary thing from nature died out, but still our ancestors had to survive these brutal things.

So what if these 'higher' entities are just another set of lions, and tigers, and bears. using all of our senses to fool us. What if they want to take our spot as the dominant species? what if they are trying fool us to snare ourselves into a bear trap, so to say, by dividing and tricking us all (maybe even opening people's minds to the point where a doorway is possible to invade their bodies)

And to do so they have tricked us all time and time again, misleading religious leaders, politicians, rock stars (aleister crowley), and perhaps even you and i....



What if their intention all along was to weigh us down by a ton of karma on each and everyone of us by tricking us telepathically to trick one another communicatory, to trick one another emotionally, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER SOCIALLY, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER AND GO bonk OURSELVES  and dividing us from truth? Hmm. I mean, if that was their plan, it seems to be working.

Maybe that explains the pyramid. It reminds me of the song eye in the sky by Alan Parsons, man, talk about symbolism.


For those of you not familiar with the lyrics.

I am the eye
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can treat you blind

Wow, I did not mean for any of this to make so much sense. I don't know what else to say really other than discuss. If this is true higher entities could be posing as higher selfs, but perhaps to them we are nothing more than bears waiting to be trapped, or cows waiting to be slaughtered

This is something that seriously has to be considered by this community as it consists of people who are very intouch with their sixth sense.

Perhaps six six six number of the beast, is fear mongering!

This is making too much sense guys... Connect the dots, and ask your own tuition on this and see if it resonates with you at all. DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR HIGHER SELF ON THIS CONCEPT, this is something that you should only trust your intuition on, your dna is encoded with your ancestors memories.

Discuss.

Edit: Also what if astral projection was meant to be the next first step for finding one's mating partner. It would seem to be the proper first step to dating for an enlightened society right?

I mean in the astral world when dealing with another human being soul I hear you can see their truth, as well as their lies. So it seems if we were enlightened as a species as opposed to bars (getting drunk and looking for a partner? what?) we would go onto the astral plane and find our perfect enlightened match while being full of clarity.... leading to a utopia......


Which by definition doesn't exist. But by whose definition? This is weird. I keep finding more dots. Will update. I welcome other people to connect dots here too. I don't know if this is true or not. I feel so uncertain about everything these days. I think this topic HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY what if december 21 2012 is game over?

Well I'm  still new to this all.

That being said, last night I had a remarkable experience using 1 amethyst, and 1 tigers eye manala (is that what its called?) you know, or greek worry beads some call them

the reason i used amethyst is because it cleanses negative energy, and it helps in dream/astral recall

the reasons i used tiger's eye is it also is really good for cleansing negative energy ( you can never bee too safe) not only that it promotes positive energy, its also both uplifting and grounding (according to a website i referenced)

last night i did energy work with both of them in my left hand over my heart and i had an interesting experience.

What an interesting topic.

For me, I had known about Astral projection (as a concept) for the last year or 2.

However, I struggled with the will power and intent to make it work for me.

But the more I heard about it the more I thought 'I wish I could experience it, as opposed to just hearing about it from other people'

And so i actually made this forum a home page for some time, so even if I wasn't on here talking or reading about it. My awareness would momentarily be drawn to this community, and the whole concept of OBE's.

And now here I am mostly drawn to make a new topic every time I have a profound experience just because I want to tell someone, and most people don't wanna hear this stuff hehe, they aren't ready.

Has anyone ever seen the movie Waking Life?

Where the guy is dreaming, wakes up, just to rediscover he has ben dreaming?

Well That was my night, after waking up to expel excess body fluids (after 4 am) I went back to sleep.

That night I was using some crystals to charge energy, while doing some deep breathing. And then the dreams started.

One of them I was in a class room with fear mongering teachers, DON'T LEAVE THIS CLASS ROOM EVER!

But I left anyway and found myself in a gymnasium, where I just played with astral physics before looking at my hands to see them melt (as many people have suggested)

This tripped me out and I thought I woke up, just to walk around my house and see the digital clock read some impossible time.

I then found myself at a chinese restaurant and I wanted to just like go inside and enjoy chinse food (my strict diet in the physical forbids me from ever eating chinese food, so to me it seemed like something dream worthy)

But then the ideas and convictions I have built in this life even stopped me from going into this pleasant looking chinese restaurant (Oh, I am not dressed in proper attire_ while trying to change my appearance through thought I woke up.

Just to find myself dreaming again. This time I felt something dragging along my neck when I got out of bed, like a long chain of beads or something and I had to kinda struggle to get them off. So none of these things seem really significant, and it's weird with each false awakening I hungered more for the physical world (the grass is always greener?)

I considered the possibility that I had died and maybe that's why I could not awaken.

I also noticed I had a hard time managing sight at times, while other times it seemed to bee so crystal and dynamic

It was quite an experience. I wish I took advantage of the experience to learn more, but I guess that just leaves more room to for next time.

Thanks for reading and any feedback is appreciated. Specifically what I want to know is how to improve my control over these experiences, and what are some things I should be doing in the astral realm as a Beginner?

I mean naturally I have some desires, such as to travel through the world and time, fly, and all of that. But it seems like when I thought of those things in my dream I would either wake up or it would have no effect.

First-timers,

Everyday, waking-life is an astral projection.  If you are "asleep" during the day, then what good is being "awake" while dreaming or projecting?   

Reality testing, appreciation, wonder and awe, these things can be practiced now in the mundane moments.  Lucidity during the day will help your lucidity at night, and vice-versa,

This might be the best thing I've read/heard all day.

It's so easy to forget, but even easier to remember.

Some good feedback going on, I appreciate every bit of it.

I am considering taking some yoga classes to aid in my journey. I feel really confident that I will achieve a conscience obe this year.

I'm even using Steve G. Jones program. As well as etherium gold (in addition to a strict diet)

Is there anything else I can do to further my progress?

I am not in any hurry, but I guess you could call me enthusiastic.

Dude... you need to read My Big TOE! You've hit the nail on the head... in a roundabout fashion. 

This is basically what many come to understand after a lot of exploration. Me included. It runs so deep... that you would need a whole website devoted to it.

Rather than the 'astral' or rather Nonphysical reality being a construct of this reality... it's understood that this reality is a constrained subset of the nonphysical. This reality being the result of the nonphysical.

Whatever is at the top isn't understood nor is probably conceivable by our physical world understanding.

Like I said.. anyone could argue or theorise... so save yourself the time and read My Big TOE by Thomas Campbell. 

Will check it out, I need a new book to read anyway so good timing.

Some interesting replies here, and I thought I just pulled some crazy idea out of my butt lol

Lisen, it's 4:55 in the morning and I'm really excited to due what just happened, let me briefly explain before I ask what I came on here to ask.

So I became lucid in a dream, basically an event in the near future being played out in my mind's eye. Due to whatever inconsistency  I realized I had to be dreaming.


So I'm thinking OMG I can go astral project. And I just got excited, but I was still dreaming.


Then I decided to totally veer off from my dream and try to fly away. And excrement it seemed so real.

Okay, I'm having a hard time containing my excitement as I type this, and I guess I had a hard time containing it in the dream realm as well.

Because like I said, I veered off from the dream I was having, and while in my house (inside my dream) i was like okay i'm just going to fly up and astral project wooooooooooo time to transcend dimensions

I flew uptop and basically passed through the ceiling of my house before being dropped down to my physical body regaining consciences. 

Now, my question.

What can I do next time I find myself in that scenario to turn a lucid dream into an OBE?

Also, How can I not get over excited and control my emotions while lucid dreaming to keep the experience going.

Man, I seriously thought I was going to have a conscience obe, when I popped back into my physical body I was a lil' dissapointed.

BUT HEY! progress! Any feed back is appreciated. thanks. going back to sleep now, I still have at least 1 or 2 dreams in me aha.

Lisen, it's 4:55 in the morning and I'm really excited to due what just happened, let me briefly explain before I ask what I came on here to ask.

So I became lucid in a dream, basically an event in the near future being played out in my mind's eye. Due to whatever inconsistency  I realized I had to be dreaming.


So I'm thinking OMG I can go astral project. And I just got excited, but I was still dreaming.


Then I decided to totally veer off from my dream and try to fly away. And excitement it seemed so real.

Okay, I'm having a hard time containing my excitement as I type this, and I guess I had a hard time containing it in the dream realm as well.

Because like I said, I veered off from the dream I was having, and while in my house (inside my dream) i was like okay i'm just going to fly up and astral project wooooooooooo time to transcend dimensions

I flew uptop and basically passed through the ceiling of my house before being dropped down to my physical body regaining consciences.  

Now, my question.

What can I do next time I find myself in that scenario to turn a lucid dream into an OBE?

Also, How can I not get over excited and control my emotions while lucid dreaming to keep the experience going.

Man, I seriously thought I was going to have a conscience obe, when I popped back into my physical body I was a lil' dissapointed.

BUT HEY! progress! Any feed back ins appreciated. thanks. going back to sleep now, I still have at least 1 or 2 dreams in me aha.

I've been clean for a few months now, and I can say it's actually pretty amazing. I used to smoke an ounce every three or four days for almost a year. (That's what you get when a teenager has a job, no self control, and no bills.)

Anyways, marijuana doesn't aid in projection at all. It will give you interesting sensations that, if you've never truly projected sober, you may interpret as the doorway to the NPR. This is false though. To truly experience and remember your non-physical journeys, you should be as clean and natural as you can be.

I can't convince you to quit smoking weed, but I can tell you that if you do, your quality of life will increase dramatically and within a week or two you will start to notice that you can think more clearly and solve harder problems. I know that won't help though, because it's the same thing my friend told to me while I had a bowl in my hand and I thought, "Why the hell would I not want to be stoned? I think so much more clearly, I guess I'm just different." Hindsight is 20/20 and that was a very stupid time in my life.

Your words really hit me, at a time in my life when I needed it. Thank you for granting me this moment of clarity.

I really can't be bothered explaining how rubbish this sounds and frankly this Shaman should know better.

It's like he's watched a documentary about CERN and had it badly translated to him and formulated a mad crazy theory mixing it up with his religion.

Well he's also using a translator, ever hear the phrase lost in translation? I'm not saying your claims are inaccurate, but modern science is pretty corrupted, at least a lot of the science known to the general public. How else would dangerous chemicals get passed off as being safe to put in our food supplies and then distributed?

Again, i'm not saying he is right or wrong. But it's kind of an interesting concept. Especially the part about the pyramids being used to channel this energy.

I have a question for you, as someone who has yet to experience a conscience OBE I want to know if it's possible to find out if people are speaking the truth while out of body?

I think he's a clever indian who's maybe cashing in on the 2012 thing. What he is saying is filled with inconsistencies in general science and what a particle accelerator is.

Either that or he believes what he is saying because he's been spirit walking on too much Ayahuasca.

What inconsistencies do you mean? How do you see him cashing in on this?


Your message seems a little vague, if you could elaborate more I'd be interested to hear you out.

I don't see a link.. are you talking about this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiL0D-_cUKU

Oops.

XD yes. That is the video.

I don't normally share Youtube videos

That being said, I found this video to be very interesting, and I encourage all of you to check it out.

I would like to hear some of your opinions thoughts on it, because I am sure there are many people on these forums more in touch with their intuition than myself (but don't worry. I am working on it)

So watch the video, and discuss. As I mentioned, I don't normally spread youtube videos, but this one is interesting because it's of an old Mayan man connecting dots, everything from his culture to modern science and CERN, the worlds largest machine.

edit, I can't believe I forgot to put the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiL0D-_cUKU

I'm not sure it works like that. SP is an artefact of REM sleep. But you don't need SP to enter the right state for experiencing an OOBE.

Dully noted (seriously)

I will be going to the appointment shortly. I will  report my experience as it pertains to meditative states soon.

Alright, as long as you clicked the topic, humor me here and hear me out.

What if let's say whatever/whoever/wherever the source of the big bang is.

Or whatever started the creation of the universe, wherever this source is it's the top of the universe okay?

And this physical world is just the creation, well what if the astral world is another creation?

What if above and beyond are just levels of worlds, creations. and all of it is artificially created by whatever is at top?

Why not?  Discuss.

A clinical hypnotherapist probably wouldnt be down for helping you astral project. Their main concern is your physical and mental health, and many dont even delve into that sort of thing.

Although that doesnt mean you could learn a thing or two. You could ask them to give you a trigger, so you can readily enter a relaxed state, they could give you affirmations to help you get into the desired state of mind. They also might help with repressed emotions or thoughts that would inhibit you from astral projecting.

Anyway, have fun and just learn. Ive been thinking about seeing one, but at 100 dollars per hour nows not the time.

i see. what kind of trigger would you suggest? Do you think a clinical hypnotherapist would have a problem with helping me reach physical paralysis?