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It'd be very difficult, because the moment after you project out-- you begin to shift slightly upwards into higher frequencies.

nothing can destroy the astral body. The sun is a physical object while you are a non-physical being.

Thanks for all your responses. But how can you look at your physical body when having an OOBE without not thinking about it ie "oh look, there is me lying in my bed" surely just by the mere fact of you recognizing the form you see is you by definition you are therefore thinking about your own bodyThat being the case you should by all means be snapped back into your body???

Take care x

It's because you don't have the intent on returning back to your physical body. It's not the act of THINKING of your physical body which pulls you back, but the INTENT on returning.

Hi,
There are many entities you might run into on the astral planes. Many are in their "own world" where they dream up their own reality and don't really know where they are.
Others can carry on intelligible conversations with you and have full knowledge of their true existence.

ums

p.s. LD + Astral = the same thing. (in my opinion at least. . . I'm sure somebody reading this believes otherwise- but really, the two terms are just semantics for a non-physical experience.)

Hi greytraveller,
thank you for the kind words 

You might have been thinking about how it's been dry lately. . . and that you needed rain. . . so it became a reality in your OBE.

Weather OOB is very similar to physical dimension weather. It might be clear most days, but rainy on others. I believe other peoples thoughts in the environment can affect YOUR surroundings as well. So maybe, a majority of you town was thinking that they needed rain-- so on a higher level it manifested.

UMS

Hi Greytraveller,
Thank you for the kind remarks. Yes, at the moment the journals are pretty much just so I can track my progress. It's nice to able to access them from the WWW! But, if anybody for any reason wishes to read them the red ones, that are worthwhile, make it easier than sorting through the excessive amount of uninteresting voyages.

UMS

Hey everybody!
I just finally finished completing my site today. I thought I'd share with you my techniques page. Hopefully you might find something here than can be of use. I've been developing a set of techniques that use the physical senses to project out of the body. It's what we relate best to while in the physical dimension, and by simulating our senses to occur in another environment we can focus our consciousness outside the physical body and achieve an OOB state.

On this page I list the 4 steps that can be used to induce an OBE. Please look it over and enjoy  .
http://fluidexistence.us/techniques.html

Regards,
UMS

I don't know, I am not you 

There has been many similar accounts, most memorable are some stories I read about early in my exposure to AP. They were with someone here, but I forgot exactly who. Where he would "OBE"/Project and his 2 pitbulls dogs would run around and sense him. When he awoke both the dogs were fast asleep on the bed. A couple days later, he would see the dogs doing exactly what he saw in the dream. Very deja-vu-esque. I wouldn't doubt your experience. You know what is true. Deep down.


Cheers,
Contenteo

I believe this was one of David Warner's experiences.

Bloop, interesting experience. It's always nice to have the ones that verify that these OBE's are not simply dreams.
The inconsistencies could be caused from a reality fluctuation and your subconscious effects. Possibly the bracelets weren't changed during the experience because they were an actuality that you couldn't necessarily relate with, so they remained unchanged. You could though, relate with a girl in bed (lol) and subconsciously changed her appearance.

UMS

Hey AJDIN,
nice experience. The Higher Self usually acts in ways we can't understand, or even perceive as to what's really going on. When you asked to see you mom and saw the blond woman she very well could have been your mother just with a different appearance, or alternatively a parent from a past life.
As to the reality fluctuations where your mind subconsciously creates manifestations. . . it's very common . . every projector experiences it. A good trick is to look down and observe your astral hands, then look back out into your environment. For some reason this focuses your attention, and helps you see the actuality around you.

UMS

hey, I'm thrilled my experience has aided you in some way. Yes, the higher self will always show itself if enough intent is given. It's strange though, the higher self rarely answers or shows you something in the manner which you'd expect. For example, in the projection here of mine, I was expecting to go to a Golden Age, but just of one year on planet Earth... not expected to be shown scenarios between almost 150 years.

Hello fellow astral projection enthusiasts. Well, I'm sure you're thinking that this post is INCREDIBLY long, but nevertheless you may find it interesting as it stems between the years 1960 and 2100. Maybe somebody has seen something similar as well? 

2/6/12
I couldn't sleep well tonight because of pain in lower back. This could have caused me to obtain an appropriate level of awareness while drifting to sleep.
During the exit of this projection I said to my higher self, "Take me to the golden age of our planet Earth."
Upon the arrival in the (seemingly Real Time Zone) I noticed that my surroundings were not of my own room, but of the back bedroom at our house on Lake Kiwassa in Saranac Lake, NY. But the thing is, I had the false memory that my physical body was sleeping in this room, and had the intuition that it was around the year 1960. It was almost as if my memories coincided with my fathers memories at the time. He would have been growing up during the time period and for some reason (as crazy as it sounds) it was like our astral bodies meshed together during this beginning of the experience (which caused why I thought MY physical body was in the room).

I (or we) walk over to the cabinet and open a wooden box, with some very Adirondack-like bark design around it. Inside is another small wooden box. This, I take out and set on the bed behind me so it can easily be looked through. Inside are some sorts of shaving supplies. I have the false memory of them being mine, and that I had recently begun using them. On the bottom of the box are little cubistic shapes, which have some sort of material on them. Another false memory (possibly of my fathers) claims that these are another method for shaving. The material on the cubes supposedly sheds the skin and cuts the hair as well. Reaching up with my hand I feel some stubs on my chin, and use the cubes to test the astral environment. I swipe down my chin with it, but realize the stubs have not been removed in any manner whatsoever.
(Note: It is very possible either I didn't understand the usage of the "cubes" or that the memories coming in were distorted by mixing with my present memories and thoughts.)

Now, realizing it's about time to go exploring I glance out the small rectangular window. At this moment it seems that any previous false memories that were stemming in from wherever (fathers memories, or something else?) vanish and I'm left with my own personal memories from the present. (DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE LAKE HOUSE HAS BEEN RAZED AND NEW HOME IS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT –yes, I assume I should have said that before. Maybe I did not remember this because another memory from a parallel reality was stemming across?)

Anyway, looking outside I notice an inordinate amount of trees and pine trees. The driveway is much more crowded, with trees hovering over it, than it is in present day. It is still nighttime, and seemingly RTZ (for 1960's).

I turn and walk down the corridor. At some point along this walk I move along the path of TIME as well. It is no longer 1960, but further in the future. There is no exact date, but it seems to be after present day, probably around 2025. Our house is still there on this timeline (or I perceive it to be, because I do not know any better—having not visited the new house yet). Looking through the kitchen window onto the neighbor's property the grass is completely overgrown. Near the edge of the water is some white tubular structure approximately 3 ft. high seemingly purifying water from the lake for drinking use. However, the structure seems old and has not been used in a while. As for the neighbors house I do not look far enough to the right to see if it still exists. Their dock, boat, and usual lawn chair equipment are non-existence though.

Opening the sliding glass door I walk onto the porch. Out in front of me the beautiful lake sparkles under the magnificent and powerful sun. The sky above is an absolute baby blue with white puffs of vanilla ice cream colored clouds. Going left I head to the door, which is different. The handle has been changed. I have a false memory and I think to myself, "Finally, in the future they will change this crappy handle . . ." The current handle (before it was knocked down) was the original from 1910 and didn't always behave properly.

So, in this parallel reality where some of these memories stem from the only renovation that had been done on the house was a new shiny gold handle. Or, alternatively my mind could not accept the reality of being in a house in 1960, traveling through time and being in the exact same position, yet in a different home, so I was perceiving it as similar, although it had changed. This could be why the outside views were different, as opposed to current reality. -hope that's not too difficult to understand (reading it over it seems to be)

The moment I open the door once again I move through time to a year yet further into the future. It wasn't a voluntary movement made by my willpower, but seemingly guided by a higher force above.

I run out to the dock in the new scene that now presents itself. The lawn and rest of waterfront property seems similar but out in the lake never seen before structures are emerged in water. A series of pipes, many different colors is not far offshore, and another similar structure is out to my left. I don't know what it is used for, but it seems to be for water purification. I leap off the wooden dock (which was fixed from it's previous broken and present day self) and dive into the gleaming water. Underneath I open my eyes and find myself in a transcendental underwater world. The sun shines down from above highlighting the dirt and sand on the lake floor. Bits of shell and other pieces sparkle from the sunlight above. I take in a large breath of cool lake water and breath it back out. I think to myself that when I go from water back into air it will be jarring switching between the two mediums and could potentially lose my awareness and wake up in the physical. To prepare for the change I get ready and fly upwards, at high speeds, out of the water into the air.

Here, the entire scene changes. I momentarily lose consciousness as I am transported both through time and space. Coming conscious I find myself located in an area I've never seen before. Standing on top of a hill I look out in the distance over a valley onto yet another hill where a small town is located. Suburban houses liter the right side of the hill across, while the left side seems to be more of a town center, where one might find stores and diners. The world is green and happy. Many trees are growing along the hills and valleys as far as the eye can see. It's the Golden Age.

It seems that during my period of unconsciousness and changing of time and location I have created a thought-form along with me. The person I have created seems to be a close friend at the time, but looking back at the image of this guy I realize have never seen him before. He's Caucasian, has dirty blonde hair, a few freckles, and a friendly smile.

What I am about to tell you now will probably sound horrendous, but it had to be done to test the reality of the Astral environment and to successfully continue my experience without any unwanted distractions. 

I began to punch the guy in his face and body to break down the manifestation from my own mind. I attempt it to see what it takes to disconnect the link from the subconscious mind and it's own manifestation. As I began hurling fists at the poor guy, he covers his hands over his face, and has absolutely no idea what's happening. But then his face momentarily glitches as if he were an animation on a computer screen. Then suddenly without a warning the creation explodes like a nuclear bomb. I am thrown back meters and land on my back, completely unconscious from the shock. Right before I lose consciousness I think that this is the end of the projection, and that soon I'll be waking up in bed . . . But some part of me holds on, some fiber of my awareness remains, almost as if I were meant to see the next scene.

Upon waking I find myself in the exact location, except now intuition tells me that it is approximately the year 2100. I stand up and the glaring sun is absolutely beating down upon me. Wondering what temperature it is- a thermometer manifests in my hand. 90 degrees Fahrenheit, but I don't know what my location is. Then, I look out into the valley and hillside. The once beautiful thriving trees and leaves were no longer. That time had passed on long ago. Now, every deciduous tree in sight was sick. It was as if a terrible blight had come along and plagued every tree in sight. It was summer time, but each small leaf that presented itself was brown, crinkled, and rotten. The leaves that were, were sparse. Where there once was a thriving forest and environment was now a wasteland. At the time I wasn't thinking about what caused this terrible disaster, but pondering on if my mind was creating the scenario for itself. I tried as hard as I could to make the leaves grow back on the trees, but could not. The truth is inescapable. What I was perceiving was the reality of wherever and whenever I was. Even sitting here now typing this I can't help but get choked up on how our beautiful Earth had spiraled downwards into such disaster. Was it a manmade problem? Or even a natural phenomenon?

I jumped up into the air to investigate my surroundings on top of my hill. Low and Behold an abundance of Pine or Confer trees were thriving. It was as if whatever blight affected deciduous trees had no effect whatsoever to these remarkable plants! Up on this hill, and on other hills as well (I'm sure!) they were either being bred or growing naturally! Where I was people had even come up to decorate them. The people of the time period had an absolute love and admiration for these species for surviving. Yes, it was strange, almost like a worshipping, but I can see society responding like this in such a pandemic. The Pine trees were decorating akin to Christmas trees. One large tree I specifically checked out had many reds and white trinkets on it (as did many of them around this one). There were notes and bells and whistles and little boxes basically looking exactly like Christmas.

(On a side note that I really feel like including here. Why is the Coniferous tree even used during Christmas and celebrated around? What if an even this large somehow stemmed back in time, or is a predominant event in history that it's effects and possible thoughts could be felt hundreds of years before? I've read that in the Akashic Records the greatest events in history are always "near the top" so to say. That's why Nostradamus and other great prophets always spoke of horrendous wars, famines, and people dying.
Or of course the pine trees might just be used because they remain green in the winter and are imperceptible to losing their needles.)

I flew back to the edge of the hill and looked out into the distance. On the opposing hill it was obvious that more houses littered the hillside. It looked like there was some over-population, which was causing a problem. Over the valley some sort of gondola carrying like structure stretched left to right, as far as I could see. On these great metal wires gondola cars were moving. There were 1-person gondolas, 2 person gondolas, or 4 person gondolas. It was seemingly the method of transportation for the era. Now, each gondola was highlighted in different fluorescent color of either red and orange (the two most common), blue, and green. I decided to take a short flight over to them. At a base station I noticed 4 individuals getting onto one specific 4-person gondola that lined them up single-file.

At a base station were people were boarding the gondolas each person was wearing a helmet over his or her heads with the same 4 fluorescent colors. I can infer from this, that this is their only means of oxygen. The trees were deceased which means that around the world all the carbon dioxide was not being converted into oxygen for us to breath by the natural process of each of the dying trees, which further leads to believe that is why people absolutely loved the Coniferous trees, as they produce oxygen as well. The fluorescent colors are symbols that inside whatever it is, is oxygen. Inside each gondola the people would be able to take off their helmets. I began to follow the set of 2 and 1 person gondolas. (the 4-set was directly parallel, but I flew between the 1's and 2's.) Below me I noticed a highway, with a single car riding along it. The car didn't seem to be OVERLY futuristic and was some sort of Lincoln. It did not have the similar fluorescent colors. Following along the red and orange gondolas took me into some above ground tunnel. Here red and orange triangles stuck down from the ceiling in between the two sets of gondolas. It was at this time I realized I've been out for an EXTREMELY long time, and must think about returning to my physical body. On my first attempt to return I found it unsuccessful. Looking up at the ceiling of the tunnel I used all my willpower and rammed my head into the ceiling, while simultaneously feeling for my physical body. Success.

But not quite, I woke up in bed, but once again out in the astral.  I reached over with my astral arms and pet my cat who lay beside me on the bed. Then I rolled out of bed onto the ground. Here I lay, still in the Astral pondering the mystifying experience that had just occurred. Manifested a paper and pencil I began to write down portions of the projection to ensure as many memories remain with me as possible. Finally, after several other exits I was able to wake up in the physical. It was 5:15AM and I was feeling great after one of the most awe-inspiring experiences of my life.

Notes: Only after re-entering the physical did I realize that in a previous projection over a year ago in the year 2200 that some woman told me about how the leaves would fall off the trees and there would be absolute disaster and a horrendous drought on the planet. This particular experience is at http://fluidexistence.us/December2010.html and is #1 on 12/21/2010
Also, many entities in numerous different experiences I've met have always proclaimed some immense sadness when speaking about the Earth, and about something terrible that was to happen in my future. Perhaps now I've had a glance at this.

Wow, now I'm exhausted and need to go to bed. . . will probably be editing this tomorrow.

Good night everybody, and happy traveling... full moon soon and great time for projections,
UMS

It'd be impossible to stay on the RTZ for eternity.
At the moment of death the astral body and (possibly) the etheric body (if it truly exists) escape and create a very powerful "projection" (If you can even call it a projection. It's really just another stage of existence). Well, it seems like that body you escape the physical with only has a certain amount of energy. It slowly wears down, and as it does you naturally shift dimensionally upwards.

On another note: The "light" is an exit from the physical to the nonphysical. To be in the RTZ as a "ghost" you have to have already traveled down the tunnel. There's no where else to go.

Myself, and MANY other projectors have even seen the light during a regular exit attempt (it's quite beautiful). We are not "enslaved" here but choose to experience a material world. In the higher dimensions we don't "have items" per say... we have everything we could ever need at a thought. Being here in the physical universe brings importance to having things.. In a way it's just us being greedy for a materialistic world.

regards,
ums

In a forum I used to be a part of there was this female who had gone blind later in life. (She used some sort of system to type on her computer, or it was her husband doing it).
But anyway, she said she had projected out of body and saw the color of a chair in her house (it was red or something). She had never seen the chair color before, but upon asking her husband, he said it was the correct color.

Bweep,
It's important to remember that what you perceive yourself to look like is not necessarily what any other individuals will perceive you as.
On another note, (and my apologies for being a slight downer here. . . ) for you to pull your friend out, and then change your appearance it'd be incredibly difficult. You'd have to be on the absolute RTZ (which is a task in itself) when you retrieve your friend. But, the problem then is manifesting your appearance in the RTZ. In the RTZ, being so close to the physical universe, it would take an immense amount of focus and concentration to manifest anything at all (and then you have the problem of your friend seeing you like you want him/her to see you)

Just something to think about, or not think about. I don't want to put these thoughts in your subconscious mind that it's impossible to do.
yes, it's possible, but you must stay focused... I am sure you can achieve it though if the intention is right.

regards,
ums

I agree 100% with you Contenteo.
LPC, if you were to begin compiling a database of animals seen on the astral you would just be creating a database of what the projector perceives the animal as. The true form of any being in the higher realms is entirely subjective. They can fly as birds, or swim like fish.
So, you'd be creating a list of proposed species, but would soon realize the list would go on infinitely, as projectors share what they saw. For example, two projectors could be looking at the same animal being, but record it down as something entirely different.

Meeting pets on the other hand would be a semi-objective experience. YES, you'd see your loved pet as YOU remember it. The energy is the same but you perceive it like you'd EXPECT to.
The same thing goes for family and friends. They may take on an entirely different form (what they perceive themselves to be), but you (the true observer) would see them as you remember.

Everything in higher realms is just ENERGY without a physical form, so we must not look at it from our physical dimension perspective.

Regards,
UMS

I've met some beings who claimed they were from the Alpha Centauri star system.
If you would like to read my experience with these beings... it is #3 on 8/22/11 here... http://fluidexistence.us/August2011.html

But anyway, at a certain point after death I believe you may freely travel these higher realms for a short amount of time (before returning to Earth of course). You could live on these planets, but the concept of planets really don't apply. It's more like separate kingdoms on a plane of existence.

Get there by flying or teleporting, but you wouldn't want to live there after death,- would prefer living amongst your family and friends.

Time usually dilates so it seems like an longer experience in the astral, than it was in the physical.
My opinion is that this can be explained similarly to the theory of relativity in our physical dimension. When an individual travels at any speed approaching the speed of light time acts differently for them. Even while driving a car the person experiences a small time dilation ... like .0000001 seconds to the rest of the world.
But anyway, in the astral our bodies are vibrating at a higher frequency, which could potentially cause the time to feel longer than the physical time..

Sorry Stimpy,
I've been looking for the link but I can't find one. It was one of Bruce's blogs in the "gradhouse" forum which I am no longer a part of.

The tubes are body length completely encompassing it. The one closest goes clockwise, while the tube SURROUNDing that one moves counterclockwise. Please tell me if this is confusing and I'll try to explain it better. If i can find a link which posts the exact method I'll make sure to post it on here too.\

UMS

a very difficult technique. . . I myself have never attempted it, but Robert Bruce devised a method which does not use the common 2 rotating pyramids in the shape of the Star of David. The pyramid method is very difficult to maintain awareness during the exit attempt.

Robert Bruce's method simplifies the pyramids into two rotating tubes. Instead of the revolving pyramids, one revolves two body length tubes around the body. One tube is rotating clockwise, while the tube around it is rotating counter-clockwise. He speaks of entering a "merkaba lightship" once both tubes are successfully spinning at the speed of light, where one may travel to any time, dimension, or any portion of our universe.

ArmyofOne,
Each of us have many guides. To communicate with them there must be an intent to meet and gather information.

Also, don't worry yourself about impressing them. They understand exactly who you are, and no matter what you do, say, or think they have our best interest. It's funny actually because I too occasionally wonder what my deceased loved ones think of my actions. But it may help you to realize that they have moved on to a "greater reality". Looking "down" at you from their perspective they just see "you" living ONE life in ONE of your many physical realities learning life's lessons. You won't be judged by them.

Moonstone,
In my opinion the gargoyle- instead of being an actual astral entity- was a creation of your own subconscious mind. You expected to run into some "trouble" when going to rummage through some guys stuff. In the back of your mind there was a hint of disbelief that you'd indeed be able to go through his stuff. Many of the things we experience in the Astral are just simply things we experience from our own minds. There may be some truth to it, but mainly, at our consciousness level our subconscious mind interferes with the actuality out there.

OP, it would be extremely difficult to remain in the RTZ for the entire journey up to the moon. By the time you fly, or even phase there, it won't be the "physical version" of the moon. It'd have many nonphysical attributes

When you pass a black hole you have to realize you aren't passing it in the 3rd dimension. You're in a completely different dimension (with a higher vibratory level) where 3rd dimensional and physical laws do not apply. Anyways, I doubt you'd manage to stay in the RTZ flying through the universe in the Astral. By the time you reach the black hole it'd be on another plane altogether.

OP, you have to get your mind over the fact that previous times you "weren't in control." If you believe you aren't in control, then you won't be. You have to believe the truth--which is whatever you believe becomes your reality.