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lulz its not just chicks turning into dudes, its also vice versa, and its nothing sexual. Its not a matter of sexuality for me, its trust. Because how can you trust entities that morph faces like that? Anyways thanks for the insight.

This is the most recurring theme in all my LDs and APs. Can't say why but here it is. I tried searching in google, but can't find resources regarding this.

I can very easily Astral Project, because i practice Kundalini meditation. Nothing fancy, just 5 mins of visualization and conscious intent, go to sleep, 5 mins later i get a swooping sensation like im a kite in an updraft, and bing bang boom, i'm out.

But here's the freaky part, most of the people or entities I ever meet start off with a face, and as time goes on, their faces morph into someone else. None of these are people whom I know in real life. And it sometimes happens to their gender too. For instance, i had a weird AP just now, where i decided to get wasted, then i was shouldered by two good looking chicks, inside the bar. can't say if it was a bar or an arcade, or a casino but it looked like a lot of people were out and about. I just had to look away, as expected, these two girls morphed into someone else. I held one of them's set of knockers to cup a feel  but to my chagrin, they literally started disappearing, at which time i realised i was touching a dude...i got ticked and said, "dont do this to me again". Is this astral tranny demon spirits playing a trick on me? Please note that i'm not gay at all, and very straight.

Another problem is everytime i have those 5 minutes OBEs, its always night in the astral world, no matter what time i'm taking a nap in the physical world. Why is that? Either that or i feel blind in the astral plane. Please shed some light on this, anyone?

Please note, this is not a dream, my dreams are meaningful, vivid, and are great escapes, but can't say the same about my APs. Anyone has similar experiences? I'd like to hear them.

Thanks for reading.

I-doser? Stay clear from it. The stuff uploaded on youtube is made by amateurs who don't know what they're messing with, the body's natural frequency, It only harshed my mellow and gave me weird headaches and palpitations. Binaural beats on the other hand are safe, they're better to listen to when you're high or tripping, not for AP.

Never used melatonin, but I have used choline bitartrate and galantamine, supplements known for causing lucid dreams.

Hey 4everaspirit, thanks for your reply.

LOL i know, It has to be an OBE, or a really really lucid dream.
What you described is the exact experience I've had on a recurring basis.
I remember reading somewhere that the astral plane is just like the physical plane, except the dimensions, measurements, structures, architectures are a little more liberal in design. Meaning your room might be just your room in the physical plane, but in the astral it might be different hangout for a different crowd, Which is only natural. Because multidimensional physics has long suggested this in brane-theory, there are dimensions among us, continuously bubbling up to the surface of our reality, yet in perfect harmony.

And no, my girlfriend doesn't know anything about it, because my friends think im crazy as it is, for believing in "new agey BS" as they call it. I don't try to push it on others, I read that its bad karma to tell someone about it when they're not ready, everyone's got their own pace.

I remember seeing some kind of prayer altar in my room after projecting, and thought that was weird. I'll share what I know about the nature of the astral plane, Its true about the impure thought thing. In hinduism,
the astral body is called the "Kama Rupa" or the body of desires or lust. Its only natural, because any kind of sexual thought will be amplified in the astral plane, and when this happens, You snap back into the physical body. The astral plane is also a plane of semi-strict privacy policy. If you try to intrude the privacy of others, especially in their "private time", you just get snapped back into the body again. It wont even let you find out if a person is lying to you, i.e like a spouse who's cheating on you. It will be a blur, and then you'll find yourself back in the body. The bad thing about this is you can incur karma in this astral plane. Its some kind of a internal safety mechanism, to protect you from overreacting, because the astral plane is just a first step in spiritual unfoldment, and people who usually come here do not quite understand the cause and effect of karma.


The astral plane is also divided into hundreds of subplanes, The best way to go about is ascend to a higher plane each time you project. Thereafter theres the causal plane, see akashic records, etc. It may take up to 2-3 years to achieve this. This is why i'm never going to try projecting again. Because the real challenge is with opening the third eye, which is harder to do, because it deals with the higher 2 chakras, rather than the lower 3 chakras like astral projection.

Again, thanks for sharing your experiences,
Peace.

Well not exactly, because I've had many before, But last night's was intense, I guess it was because I had a some herbal tea.

First of all, hi all.

The following is my story: I've never really consciously "projected" out of the body. When I meditate and try the visualization method (kundalini rising to the forehead), I get into a weird hypnogogic state. But then i usually call it a night and sleep. This is when the weird thing happens, I'd be sleeping awake for a few hours, fully aware of my thoughts and the sleep process, and the dreams are more like I make it up as I go, It will actually play out. The kundalini stuff is powerful, I've never had OBEs from normal third eye meditation.

But afterawhile, I feel a pulling sensation, I'm just floating around the room mostly. But there were several things I couldn't figure out, like I was able to float around for 4-5 minutes, but couldn't go through the wall or window, I had to actually turn the door knob to get out of the room  .
Then I get tired and snap back to the the body. This happened a couple of times, but the last one was intense, as I was flying skywards, godspeed, and the color of the sky started changing, thats when I snapped back again.


That was the one I had last night. My previous experiences were quite text-book OBE, like I would be able to go through the small crack in the window sill. I can't tell if I was was shrunk so small that I was able to get through the window or I was actually going through objects. And of all the times I've had OBEs, I've noticed that my room looks different, the windows and furniture are a little off. And another thing is I've never seen my body on the bed after having projected.
But the most alarming thing is When I project, I usually want to go to my girlfriend's house  . The scary part is sometimes, the people I meet have androgynous faces, and they seem to morph into the opposite sex when I'm interacting with them. I'm not secretly gay or anything, but why does this happen?


My take on it, is that the more intense the meditation and intent to have separation, the higher the projection, and the smaller the soul or consciousnss that becomes centered into a single point. The lower or more half-assed the projection, the heavier/bigger and more life-like you seem, and you take on actual physical form even as spirit.

So to sum up, can anyone validate these experiences?

-> Dont see my body on the bed after projecting
-> Not being able to go through walls sometimes.
-> People changing faces/sex. Are these people real or a figment of my imagination?
-> As soon as I get impure thoughts(you know) I snap back into the body.
-> Feeling stagnation, how to progress spiritually.

Thanks, any input would be appreciated, sorry for the long post.

Love and peace.