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Hello!

Do anyone have any theories on where negs should be attributed on the Qabalistic Tree of life (sephiroth or path)?
Negs are in some ways qlipphotic, yet not in other ways, so to attribute to the qlipphotic orders might be unfitting.

Personally, my theory is that they are to be attributed to Malkuth as they seem to be linked to the Dweller on the threshold and the 32nd Path (the path that connects malkuth and yesod).
The Dweller on the Threshold is the shadow aspect of the higher self,(very much linked to Saturn and karma) those dark/shadow aspects that you have to confront to progress spiritually.

Consequently the sphere of Tiphareth would be the main sphere to work with to harmonize their influence.
As Christ is an expression of this sphere this is might be a direction to use.Even if you're not Christian believer.
Krishna, Odin, Osiris might be used instead.

Anyway I discussed with a fellow Ogdoadic student who had tried out using the greek hesychast ways of prayer (the jesus prayer).

The technique is in short:(this is a simplification) you attune your breathing to repeating "Christ above me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ beside me".
He did it very often, as a result he could feel eventually it activating the psychic centres in an interesting way, such as the heart chakra.
He didn't have neg problems as far as I know, yet, this technique would be worth trying.

Something that I've found to be of value (in combatting negs, or strengthening oneself whatever you like, if you do not believe in negs) is the use of a spiritual emblem.

This should be a symbol that encompasses the spiritual ideal for the person in question and one uses it as a focal point in meditation as well as in other spirtual exercises.
It is very similar to the use of the Mandala in Tantric practices.

It is most effective if the symbol bears a meaning that is special for the person, such as an Ideal that is worth striving for.
It should a positive value, that is not have a negative outlook.
Also the symbol should be of an abstract design, not too complex.

For example for the Rosicrucian magician it is the Calvary Cross with the circle of seven roses in the center, signifying the seven planetary spheres.
When plagued under attack - of not too severe kind - the magician can visualize the Rosy Cross and transfer the negative inner qualities to the Cross.
Then he/she should imagine these to be alchemically cleansed or made golden/harmonized. Also he/she can imagine the seven roses to be seven planetary qualities that are filled with sublime spiritual qualities, for instance:

Saturn: Faith, Motherly love.
Jupiter: Fatherly love, Divine kingship, Generosity.
Mars: Courage, Protection.
Sol: Harmony, The Vision of the Higher Self.
Venus: The Beauty of Nature, Grace.
Mercury: Understanding, High Analysis.
Luna: Inner Strength, Healing.

Imagine then these luminousd qualities to rotate like a wheel and project over into your heart chakra and fill and encompass your whole inner being.
A Rosicrucian magician also told me that one can use a flower and use it's purity to heal in a similar way.

Personally, as I study the Ogdoadic tradition of Aurum Solis, I use the Tessera, two interlaced squares, that form an Ogdoad, signifying Regeneration and New Life.
I put this symbol over a neg I saw with my inner eye, and this disturbed it like a Hexagram would.

It is also helpful to contemplate  art that is spiritually inspiring.
Do not use Expressionist art, like Edvard Munch!
Italian Renaissance art is the best choice.
Remember that many of the Italian Renaisasance artists were influenced by Platonism/Neoplatonism and Esoteric beliefs, Michelangelo Bunarotti and Dante Alighieri for instance were members of the Occult group Fedeli d'Amore (an Italian offshoot of the Muslim Gnostic Ismaili Order of the Faithful Ones of Love).Another member was the great Platonic philosopher Marsilio Ficino.

I understand that some Sufi mystics used similar healing techniques, where the dark parts (metaphorically called The Devil) were confronted and cleansed in a series of inner visions.
I'm going to delve into Henry Corbin's books on the Sufis so I'll have to return to this angle of this subject later.

There was a comment here on a memebr who used Goetic magic to deal with negs, this made me think about the seemingly growing interest in dark/black magick.

About ten years ago whilst subscribing to a Swedish occult magazine,
one can coukld clearly see (especially in the contact ads) that there was a strong interest in all things related to the left hand path, vampirism,etc.

In Sweden there is also a magickal society which is focused entirely on what they call "dark magick", they explore the qlipphotic paths etc. call up qlipphotic entities and they state that this is beneficial and something spiritually over-looked by most magicians. They also focus on the kundalini-force (rather than calling down force from the sphere above the head).

For me, I can agree that it is vital to know thyself, especially the dark and shadowy aspects of oneself (as these are aspects that are used by negs, for instance). But to devote oneself entirely to this aspect seems suspect.

It seems that there is a strong attraction from these dark spheres, and one wonders what trail of negs follows in the wake of such operations, so the problem of negs is thus quite symptomatic.
Personally I wouldn't experiment with such forces unless I was a very advanced practicioner.

I know that the left hand path has tried to recruit me, but, no thanks, it is not my cup of tea. I don't want to go backwards in my spriritual evolution.
I suspect that there are practioners of the left hand path who use negs to consciously attack people, such as "if you don't join us, then will make sure your theurgic studies are impeded". I have remember once having seen a hooded left hand figures in a vision.

I've started to experiment with brushing techniques, and felt that it is a technique very worthwhile for me to do, for those who know that they have neglinks or suspect so, it is perhaps the most important one next to doing banishing rituals, besides meditation and the destroying of core-images of course.

These two major techniques work similarly, a banishing ritual creates a clean, sanctified space around the aura, and holds the negative influences back.Brushing identifies/localizes and weakens the neglinks.

Previously I've been doing one banishing ritual, Setting of the wards of Power + the technique called the Tower of Light. Now I've skipped TOL (for the time being) and used the brushing technique instead.
Now I start my ritual sessions with the brushing, and end the session with visualizing blue light and red light descending down through the crown centre via the psychic centres.

I've started to just experiment with the brushing technique on freehand, targeting (what I've found to be) the main areas, that is the head, the area between the eyes and the lower back.

For this technique to be most effective, it seems one has to be fairly well relaxed, so one doesn't strain while brushing. I've tried using the Yoga position "Deathstill", where you lie relaxed on your back, palms up. This position is good for general brushing over the body, or determining areas that may have core attachment points. For points where core attachment points are felt strongly, it seems that a more intense brushing technique is recommended.

I once tried using a towel and used it to scratch my temples rapidly, after some minutes the buzzing disappeared and a lighter feeling followed.
I've also discovered that pointing towards an object at a core attachment point, such as the back of a pen or pencil, somehow disturb the energies, in a similar way to brushing.

I've not yet used a paintbrush, but I would like to try using a softer one, as this is perhaps the most effective in identifying finer attachment points.

I'm going to try to experiment more in this area, trying to find what is the best way to use this technique.

Anyone here who can give any good advice on this technique from experience?

I work every summer at a psychiatric home facility, and every time one of the resients (most of which are suffering from schizophrenia of various types) talks about hearing voices, I can't help thinking about my own neg problem.

What is usual in psychotic disorders and their hallucinations is that voices are heard clearly which often mock, criticize or ridicule.
The rational, "scientific" way of dealing with this is calling these symptoms of a disturbed mind, and these voices being something inside the pateint himself for example various complexes that he is unable to deal with; Carl Jung named them autonomous complexes, archetypal energies that are so strong that they swamp the personality.

Personally, I believe that many people who suffer from schizophrenia also have neg problems, as they are easy victims.
The probable reason for this is that the negs feed on these people's anxiety and unability to keep the conscious and unconscious apart.
As a warden to these people i find it hard to say that "it's just in your head".

I remember one time when helping one person who had lots  and lots of hallucination problems, that erupted in to major attacks, one of his neighbours actually labeled him as "possessed by demons" (not unaccurate at all in my opinion). This time when I entered this poor man's flat after hearing him screaming to the voices, I could sense that there was a dense, almost compact atmosphere in his apartment.
I have felt a similar atmosphere in a old house which belonged to a local doctor of the early 1900s. I don't know if the house was haunted, it probably was.

Some people may say that "why do you work there if you have neg problems". Well, actually I did have neg problems long before working there, and my problems haven't worsened after working there.

What I do fear, as do probably several others, is that neg attacks can cause hearing voices of similarity to schizophrenics. These can range from just voice sounds, uttered words that usually have a false or nonsensical meaning to them, or they seem like your own thoughts but slightly different.
Hearing these voices can make the attacked person fearing for his state of sanity, as I've done several times.
You have to say to yourself "it's just the negs!"

How am I doing?

Well, not so bad.
I've taken up the practice of sleeping with the lights on, and this helps to decrease the neg-attacks. I recommend this.
Also I started doing some brushing techniques, and it has shown to have effect. I often have a distinct buzzing feel in my head and my spine.
I've tried drawing symbols with ink pens, and it helps somewhat. I drawed it on the solar plexus, but it seems the neg-links are on the back/the spine, as well as on the temples.
It is difficult to write on the back, and it would look very suspect if I drew two pentagrams on each temple.

I had an interesting astral experience following a night in which I was too fatigued to do a banishing ritual.
I fell down into what seemed like a deep sea, which was filled with large sharks, the great white and the like, though they didn't attack me, rather they formed a thickbarrier around me. strange totemic aanimals?!
But then I was attacked by a neg in the form of large fanged fish (of the like which does not exist in real life) but I held out my hand and then it stopped and couldn't reach me.

I still perform my Setting of the wards of power (Aurum Solis banishing ritual) and i feel a growing rapport with its gnostic links.
The fight with negs continues, hopefully it can help me in mys pritual development, though right now it only feels like an annoying stick in the wheel.

My negs reside under my bed. Once I saw it (with my astral sight) as a circular opening with tentacles reaching out of it.

How do I seal off this negative point of entry? I've been thinking of making a large pentagram and putting it over this point.
I've tried pots of water with peppermint, cinnamon, etc. they lessen attacks for a night, not much more.


I do perform SWP ( A:S: banishing ritual) every day, but the negs I have are damn stubborn, they wont leave if they aren't forcefully exorcised.

Hello!

I've recently bought Robert's book PRACTICAL PSYCHIC SELF-DEFENSE and I've been rapidly reading it.The book is absolutely brilliant!!!
I want to recommend all here who have neg problems to buy it. presenting a lot of excellent advice on handling these problems it does what all other psychic self-defense books haven't done before: calling things by it's real name.
Former occultists, in my opinion, seem to have refused to spell out what negs are and what they do (as surely the occult lodges obviously have lots of info. on them).
I believe that a lot of people suffer from negs, and what is essential is education and research into this problem and the nature of these beings. I don't know why the knowledge of negs have been so covered up or toned down as mild paranormal disturbances when evidence show that they intrude so often.
The discussions made here at this forum are also very valuable additions to the book, and hopefully in the future the knowledge of negs will be advanced even further.

Again, buy the book if you have neg problems you wont regret it!!

Hello!
I would like to ask those here who regularly perform OBE and have trouble with negs (core-image attachments etc). How do the negs behave at you on the astral plane? Do they appear in typical hostile way??

I haven't yet learnt how to travel astrally (consciously) but I intend to start learning how to do so this summer, as I want to find how the negs and their energies are located astrally in my room.

I've had OBE experiences while asleep. In a recent one I felt like I was tossed around in a circular way (by  the negs maybe?). I could clearly see my sleeping room, then I was sucked into my computer screen (?!), and then I awoke rapdly. In another OBE I was confronted by a unseen but very strong astral barrier that slammed me real hard, someone here said that it mght have been The dweller on the threshold, but I don't believe so.
The other OBE experiences in the dream state I have had have been more like I'm being in control, travelling where I want but with some limitations, such as experiencing the surface of the moon.

Hello!

It has been discussed here the procedure for locating negs and core images.
My question is:
If one knows that one has multiple chords attached to oneself, for instance in the head, and the chord can be felt, but the core-images remain largely hidden, what is the best procedure to deal with them?

I mean is for example using meditation a good method to get a all-round picture on how the negs are attached and what traumas they are using to attack? I've pondered using it.
I've tried turning and cutting core-images as prescribed, but this method is mostly unsatisfactory as it is hard to really know that a neg has been cut out of the system, so to speak.
Also locating negs and traumas is difficult as they tend to remain hidden.
I've found that negs clothe themselves in illusion, and they want to remain hidden.
Also I know that the negs I have trouble with is like a big bunch of entities.

Thankful for all advice!

It has been stated here that negs loathe Christmas carols, and uplifting music in general.

Another thing that keeps them at a distance is poetry: preferably the poetry of the Romantics (1780-1900) which often has a sublime quality to it, even though some may find it old-fashioned.
Reading aloud poets such as P.B. Shelley, John Keats, Coleridge, Worsdworth, or the Germans Hölderlin, Schiller, Goethe, Heine, and Late-Romatics/"Symbolists" such as Rilke, Stefan George, Hugo von Hofmmansthal, Paul Verlaine, etc etc, are useful.

It is my theory that poetry also attracts sylphs (air elementals) and beings of the higher spheres, which the negs dislike.
Also the rhythm and musicality of poetry may be used asa defense on the astral.
In fact, all kind of Arts that has a sublime, spiritual beauty to it is useful in battle with the negs. I would say that Classical Art, that is Art up until the early 1900's is the most useful.
Art is also good as a use for the change of the astral atmopshere, as negs usually thrive in an upset or unbalanced atmosphere.

Hello!

Last night I had an interesting dream, that was celaerly neg related.
After having done my usual protective rites , a dream followed where erotic images where presented, one of these were of the Fellatio type; but, when looking down on the "head" it had turned, or rtaher revealed itself to be a creature like a skinned chicken (!?). I grabbed it and pulled it off and it lay before me, seemingly motionless, but then it came alive and floated in under my right foot and entered me.
Then the images slowly dissolved amidst other astral scenery, but the neg atmosphere remained.
Before falling asleep, by the way, I could see (in my mind's eye)dark openings with hooded beings, looking well, darkly forboding, and secretive, like they wanted me to enter into their realm.

By the way, my fight against the negs continues. But as I'm a bit of a fatalist, believing that there is a karmic purpose behind the attacks, and that they are limited in time, I have faith in that I will conquer them  eventually.

To add to a previous discussion regarding negs and weapons, I'd like to make a point about negs and images.
I've discovered that negs can attach themselves to photographs, if certain pictures are used in connection with erotic activity of any kind. This can manifest itself even to the point that the picture of, let's say a sexy girl, suddenly becomes slightly animated.
The best thing if this is discovered, if one has problems with negs, is to destroy the picture. I did so,tearing it apart, and experienced anger from the neg (I could sense it's resentment).
The preferable method, when obliterating, would probably be using fire, in connection with some sort of ritual. BUt the diificult thing is to obliterate all "neg-branches".

Hello!

During the period of Waxing moon to Full Moon I often have trouble with feeling fatigue, tired (like when you sit near a magnetic source). I practise Ceremonial magick, and during this period althoough the astral light is more potent, I also find it to be heavy, visualizing is in a way more difficult then.
I wonder if this problem is general? One explanation for my reactions to this period may be that I have Neptune retrograde in the first house, Neptune is a watery sphere, and the water element is very much affected by the waxing lunar periods.

Any suggestions??

I´ve often wondered how intelligent negs (those that frequently attack) are; as some equal them to elementals who are said to only have the intelligence levels of an animal.
More powerful qlippoth, archdemons,  are of course said to be extremely intelligent.

But as my attacks have had patterns that reveal more intelligence than that of an animalistic predator this would prove that other qlippoth of the grander ranks might be involved.

It would be interesting to have a demonological listing here and their various subspecies.

Hello!

In a previous discussion, we talked about whether it´s advisable to do energising rituals (such as MPR) when being under psychic attack. Many experts advise (such as Dion Fortune, Denning & Philips)against this, stressing the importance of "closing down the psychic centres" and doing warding rituals such as LBRP,SWP, TOL.

As I´ve had had psychic attacks for quite some time, I was a bit hesitant at start doing a ritual such as CLavis Rei Primae (the A:S: equivalent to MPR) but after doing it now for some weeks, I´m very pleased with the results. The ritual scheme I use:

1) The rhythmic breath
2) Setting of the Wards of Power (greek version, can be substituted with the hebrew one)
3) Clavis Rei Primae
4) Rousing of the Citadels (slightly similar to the G:D: CBL)
5) Tower of Light

and this has proved an effective protection against the qlippoth/negs and their vampirising. However, tides of imbalance, such as the period of Waning Moon to Waxing Moon, it is advisable to do the ritual session more than once a day.

To return to the question of "closing off or not", I´d say that it all depends what type of attack it is  and how severe it is. MPR uses the energisation of the Solar Plexus chakra (where many negs try to attach) so the working of MPR may intensify an attack and make it worse. CRP on the other hand uses the Heart chakra instead of the Solar plexus one, which has a more harmonic effect.  

To me the importance of energisation is mainly for getting strength both for defence and for spiritual growth. But one has to use once common sense, if the attacks are severe, don´t do MPR or CRP, stick with the warding rites, until the storm has passed.
Also the addition of prayer is recommended, pray to your higher self,"inflame yourself with prayer" as the saying goes, you may also pray to the Archangels of the Sephiroth which are the following:

1) Kether - Metatron/Metratron
2) Chokmah - Ratziel
3) Binah - Tzaphqiel
4) Chesed - Tzadqiel
5) Geburah - Kamael
6) Tiphereth - Raphael
7) Netzach - Haniel
Hod - Michael
9) Yesod - Gebriel/Gabriel
10) Malkuth - Sandalphon

Hi

As I´m using the Rhythmic Breath exercise (breath in for six heartbeats, hold for two, breath out again for six) in my ritual curriculum, I´ve been inspired to start doing Hatha Yoga exercises, as I´m also have alot of muscular tensions in my neck and shoulders.

Has anyone here heard of the "Five Tibetans" yoga system, it consists of five physical exercises that are said to bring "mental sharpness and physical youth".They are included in D.M. Craig´s book MODERN MAGICK.
This system seems to me a good start as it doesn´t take so much time, and might be a good intro. to the Hatha Yoga system in general.

If one is going to build strong astral defences, a good physique is important too. I studied Ninjutsu (which is realted to Tantra) back in the late Eighties, and oriental martial arts/physical exercises have always interested me.
Crowley once pointed out: "Master the eight limbs of yoga otherwise you have no discipline for war".
I guess Thelemites (followers of Crowley and students of the OTO system) lay a lot of weight on the importance of Yoga as a supplement to Magick.

Recently I had an interesting astral experience, after having done SETTING OF THE WARDS quite late at night I went to bed, and after a while, I saw (in my mind´s eye)a black hole (just as the entrance to the Netherworld) I dived down, and experienced the feeling of going through tunnels of dark earth, then a bit further down I saw a rotating white-light astral sphere (like a spiral) I entered it and it felt like it was screening me.It made a low humming noise, but it was clearly audible, also the rotating feeling of the sphere was physical even.

Then I had a vision, whereupon I made a sign at the heartchakra, it resembled the Tessera (two interlaced squares) the emblatic symbol of Aurum Solis and The Ogdoadic tradition, whilst doing this, like lighting a lamp, I could see a ring of adepts doing the same in a circular succession.They emerged from darkness. The leader of the circle was a dark-haired bearded man. The next day I didn´t have any psychic attacks from the negs, the astral defence felt much stronger.
Since then attacks have returned, but I interpret this a sign.

Does this mean that I´ve managed to establish contact with Ogdoadic adepti on the inner plane/or even the adepts behind the system?

Hello!

Is there anyone here that has worked with flower essences (such as Alaskan, etc.) in healing and psychic protection, I´m thinking about trying it out as a supplementary remedy for my neg-problem.

I´ve often pondered the difference between the difference of those planetary hours pertaining to the day (before nightfall) and those to the night (after nightfall).
Rituals etc. are much easier to preform after nightfall, which of course has to do with that the astral currents are more potent, when the moon ascends, as Luna is the channeling sphere of all astral forces (as well the gate to the astral world).Also this means that the Unconscious levels are also more accessible to the ritualist.

Let´s say an adept of a magical order, does he prefer to do all ritual work after nightfall, or are there certain rituals that preferably is performed  before nightfall? Certain astral work seems to be done only after nightfall.

For example the daily planetary hour of Luna is much more potent after nightfall, than the one before nightfal, so if the ritual is one of Luna, the ritualist would do his ritual on the Luna hour (1st of hour of monday,day of Luna), preferably after nightfall .

Hello!

In several psychic self-defense books those ones being under psychic attack are advised to "close down the psychic centres", e.g. not perform rituals such as THE MIDDLE PILLAR/ROUSING OF THE CITADELS.
I wonder what the exact reason for this is??

I can understand that as MPR opens up astrally, and as such it can help the attacker to make the attack more intense as your metaspace becomes open, but to get to the roots of what is attacking you, you really need your astral vision. Just doing rituals such as TOWER OF LIGHT (even though it´s helps a lot) feels like just putting  a bandaid on a deepcut wound.

Anyone who can clarify this please?

Hello!

I´ve been trying to learn the technique of identifying the core images and get them out.
The most tangible points where I know that the images/negs are located are the temples, and the right eye, as I can often feel a magnetic pressure there.

Imagining these centres to be like ropes, I was able to get hold of some of them and some images (used by the negs) popped up, I tried hacking at them with a sword, an axe, as well as picturing the symbol for SPIRIT the wheel before them (this had an interesting dynamic effect) as well as THE PENTAGRAM.

But the problem for me is to be able to know when you have the branches/roots in your grip.

When I´m doing SETTING OF THE WARDS OF POWER (the calyx part) I find that the white light is difficult to channel down, which must mean that there are neg obstructions in the way.

Are there any ways to screen the aura of yourself, like using crystals or any meditational method? I´m also thinking in terms of  the use of the crystals ability to create a magnetism that can help to more easily detect the core images and "suck them out" - like a vacuum cleaner.
Herkimerdiamond is said to be effective, for instance.

Hello!

As I´ve shared many of my experiences with negs, I´d like to share the experience I had last night which was genuinely terrifying and also gives further proof to my belief that there is a grander qlipphotic force controlling these minor negs.

I watched a documentary on TV and as I had to get to up early the next day; I did THE TOWER OF LIGHT ritual instead of my usual SWP, which usually is fine but this night I was to regret it.
In the middle of the night, I was inside a living room of the Seventies style, with a stuffy atmosphere, it felt like it was hauntedor filled with negative magnetism.
The dream featured a skull that was made to be small, like those of Soth American Indians, and it was hidden in the room, this I did´nt respond to as particularly disturbing when suddenly a tremendous force shot forth at me, directed at my solarplexus, it was grand and overwhelming, and it completely paralyzed me for a moment.
After some time I acted astrally by doing a pentagram and proceeding spontaneously to do SWP whilst the force gradually diminished.
At the time I sated doing SWP there were three other people in the room, it looked like an auditorium, they were neutrla spectators.

Later on I was told that I had faced a Demon King (this might be a false statement to frighten), but as I woke up I was sore around the solarplexus area.
I hope that my request for help with Romero and F:H:   soon be granted, so that I at least will know the truth about this problem.

Any suggestions for techniques to use whilst being attacked on the astral plane??

Hello!

I´ve been trying to use Robert Bruce´s method of core image removal, but have´nt been that succesful, are there any other methods that one can use?
For me these psycho-magnetic links are often almost physical, but it´s hard for me to get to their weak points.

Are there self-healing methods that one can use oneself that are effective?

Hello!

After a succesful ritual session last night, before going to sleep, my thoughts lingered on how to approach the egyptian god Khonsu, who is associated with exorcism. Then, before going to sleep, I imagined myself giving a wine-offering to the deity, as I did there was a magnetic surge in the astral vision.
Then I experienced being covered by a white silvery veil of light.
Has anyone had any encounters of this kind?

I´ve had contacts with the deity Anubis before, at that time I gave him an offering of the wadjet eye, and received a response of well-done and an adress to me in an ancient egyptian name, which was not just a mental fancy, but actually a true name, which meaning I have later on uncovered, at least in symbolism, through my Egyptological studies.
Anyone else who has had spontaneous astral encounters of this kind?