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guys i need help in separation techniques
i have tried rolling out method and getting up method
in rolling out i felt strong pull around chest area  and in getting up method i felt strong pull on all parts....it was like i am getting sucked lol
and there was a bit pain too in getting up......though it vanished when i got back in body
so if you know any separation technique......which is easy and will give less resistance in separation......pls share
it would be best if i dont need to separate and i can directly project my astral body somewhere else

its called remote influencing......

May be it wasnt hypnogogic images..
I researched about third eye a bit...And they say that when you concentrate on third eye a time comes when you see your thoughts like a movie as a third person..
When i saw it..I told this to a person after that i didnt see those visuals again...Lol..Or may be i didnt try enough.. i should try more
And yeah you are right when we will master phasing...May be we wont need to go to focus 10 or whatever...We might phase with open eyes in instant..

thanks xanth
but that visual state is not easy to maintain...while seeing these visuals.....suddenly i get back to c1.....if i try to observe them or whatever the reason is..........
xanth but how to get to 3d blackness and phasing from this state ......?

i was reading about phasing on xanth's site.....i found that the purpose of doing all theses techniques is to get into focus 12 somehow........
xanth said that when you get into focus 12.....you start to see visuals.....
once i tried to meditate on third eye......after some time i entered in a state where i started to see visuals and my field of view like divided into 5-6 frames.....
in one visual i saw a couple.....than suddenly that visual(it was like video) shrank and it became like a photo in one of the frames.......than i saw a blonde man on ground........
i saw that frame thing only once but i could see so many different visuals.......
to put it all this in one line........i was passive observer of my thoughts...(i am not sure all those visuals were thoughts....because i never saw that couple or that man before)
so my question is this that......
is this the focus 12 state........?
if yes than how to convert it into phasing......because its too easy to loose this state....

thanks.................
xanth noy's post was neither scary nor funny for me........
it is certainly funny if i read it as an expert...who might know about api or has visited it.....but there is no info about api in this section ........so his post surprised me.......
sorry noy if i hurt you

than think i was joking too.....
i should better not go to api........otw i will find naked people covered in peanut butter.....
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i hope someone who is serious will ans my question........
i am asking.........suppose i am astral projecting but than what should i do to go api.....
obviously i dont know where it is and how it looks

I didnt expect that ans...
But i think this is the way this forum treats....I should better leave this forum...
You think everybody is born with an image of api

but basically what is the difference between phasing........and ap........?
is phasing more like dream or what.......?......or it is stll astral projection
dont get annoyed but  phasing sounds like really different....like something dreaming........it doesnt like leaving body........

i thought here will be a sticky thread for it....but it isnt than let me ask.......
how do you go to astral pulse island.......?

oh got it.............but why its on page 5........?

 

pls explain clearly
i am new here..........
i just cant understand....there are some threads where i just cant see the author's post........lol
yesterday i could see and now its not here...... lol

where is the method..........?
its not on the 1st page

hi guys just have a question......regarding psi energy.....

where to imagine psi energy.......in abdomen or in sternum.......?
i read in in a site that imagine it in sternum but from the same site i downloaded a ebook and it said to imagine at abdomen
i am confused........

so basically its just another method of obe.......
i thought its something else.....lol
damn........i became excited

dont give me any details but just answer this question...........
i read this line about phasing.......
"Phasing does not incorporate any kind of out of body feelings at all. The normal bodily vehicle can remain and all that changes is a person's environment. "
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so does it mean that we can travel physically to astral plans..........?