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Personally I find that it just blocks me from doing any energy/OBE work.

Also stops me from sleeping, which is very annoying.

I get this too.

Rain gives a very interesting flavour.

Any reccommendations as to flavours

I went to bed as normal.

After a little while it became clear that although my body was drifting off, my mind remained very much awake. I entered mind awake/body asleep.

At first, everything seemed like a normal F10 trip, but then I started to feel connected to everything, I came close to losing my sense of self.

Then time stopped. I realised that time does not flow, it is merely something that just exists. I was free to move backwards and forwards through time. I decided to go backwards in time.

I can't remember how it happened, but I ended up in a garden, with classical music of some kind playing in the background. I walked forward, and saw a lady in white sitting on the side of a fountain.

I went up to her. Immediately I felt a great love for her, I don't think I've felt anything stronger in my entire life. I asked her who she was, she said "Don't you remember me? I'm your guardian angel" (I had had a visit from her before, but it was very brief).

I don't remember much of this, but we went for a walk around the garden. She said that there was another woman who I could love as much as I loved her, and that to find her, all I had to do was to go the next month completely sober (I am 16, which says it all I think).

There was another bit, where she was able to make me rise up. I rose so high that gravity was only just making me feel heavy. Then she let go, and said "sometimes, when you fall, you wake up, sometimes you hit the floor, but sometimes, when you fall, you fly". I flew.

She said it was time to go. I wanted to stay there for the rest of my life, but knew that I couldn't. She said that I'd see her again. Before I went, she just touched my forehead, and I felt all of my body filled with energy.


I now fully believe in angels.

They are two forms of existence. One is embedded in silicon. The other I'm not so sure about.

This is actually fairly interesting if you think about it. If you think of the digital world is just another world, all sorts of issues arise. we are essentially God to this world, we created it, we can find out anything about it, and (with the proper tools) we have complete power over it.

Also, think about evolution, how different programs have gotten more advanced, just like creatures in this world.

The question in my mind, however, is that if us in our world are gods to the digital world, who in what world is god to us?

I reccommend OBEing from a lucid dream. Much easier to do. Do a search for loads of techniques for LD

Keeping a dream journal and reading it just before you go to bed made me LD in a matter of days.

When you realise you're dreaming, I recommend saying "clarity NOW" to make everything clearer, and stop yourself waking up.

It seems like the only way to achieve enlightenment is to merge with something.


Never tried meditating in an LD. I think that's on the agenda for the next one.

Asking to talk to them in lucid dreams can be surprisingly effective.

I had something like this when I was younger. I eventually figured out that my mind was the thing creating it, and confronted the creature. It said that I was right, and that it was there to stop me doing things I wasn't ready to do. It promised that it would go away when I was older. It has.


Try picking up a handful of coins/marbles/anything, then asking it how many you are holding. It won't know, because you don't either. That makes things like this go away.


Either that or go to a church or somewhere and ask God to help you.

Shouting "clarity now" normally helps me stay in an LD/OBE/whatever. Makes everything more detailed too.

I thought they were made out of cling film

It sounds like you're subcosiously healing yourself/others

Try to control where this energy goes, re-route it elsewhere in your body. If you could consciously control this , then you could become a seriously powerful healer.

The way I use is to make a psi ball just before I attempt to AP. You also have the added advantage of developing skill with energy.

That and practise, practise, practise

Hey that saltcube site has some good stuff on it - cheers cube.

Looks like I nearly make it just about every night. I just have to relax more.

Although I'm not very experienced at RV, I find that it's easiest when I'm only slightly in a trance. If you're talking about AP, that does require a fairly deep trance state.

I can't physically taste the energy, but I can think of a better word to describe it.

I think this is possible, but I have only managed to use it to recoverfrom temporary damage (like a hangover).

Just imagine all the neurons in you brain firing, going along all the paths. If there are areas where there isn't anything flowing, try to bring energy into that area.

I think if you practised this enough you could actually use it to improve your intelligence or "rewire" your brain. I have tried a couple times, but the complexity is unbelievable, so I've only been able to make minor alterations.

Check out the "8 circuit map of consciousness" on //www.undergroundnews.org. You might find it useful for this kind of stuff

I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices that different types and scources of energy seem to "taste" different

It's something I've been aware of ever since I started, but only recently started to develop preferences for different types. The nicer tastes also seem to be the more concentrated.

I find that certain places have paticularly nice tastes, and have more concentrated energy. I find that energy tastes nicer at night. Rain also seems to improve the taste of energy.

Any recommended types of energy?

I can never figure out wheather I'm supposed to shut my eyes when trying to AP. Currently I try with my eyes shut, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to.

I am trying to Use energy to warm myself up, with some success.

What I am doing is surrounding my body with a constant flow of energy (which is visuallised as fire).

The problem is that this heater takes ages to warm me up and doesn't work so well in really cold conditions. Does anyone know how to boost the efficiency of this heater? Or are there alternative methods for heating that work better?

A couple nights ago (when I was meditating), I saw a long network of roads, all leading to a huge dome, which appeared to be full of white light.

Looking around a bit, I found two cars, one of which I was driving. In front of my car, there was a "shadow" car, which seemed ghostlike. I knew that I was following this shadow car to the white dome. I then looked to the road ahead of the cars, and I saw that my car would have problems if it kept on following the shadow car (for some reason, the shadow car wouldn't have problems). Instead of turning onto a different road, which looked hard to drive down without crashing, I pulled the shadow car over mine. I then managed to fuse the cars together, enabling me to tackle the road ahead.

At that moment, however, I felt a scaly hand on my shoulder, which showed my the road behind me, which looked the same as the road ahead, only the dome was red, and the roads seemed unfriendly. The owner of the hand (who I never actually saw) then tried to get me to turn round and head for the red dome. I refused, and told it to go away. Then, the white dome suddenly changed to red, then back again. Both the domes kept changing colours, and I knew that whatever I had just met was changind the colours in an attempt to confuse me into going the wrong way.

Eventually, I managed to stop the domes changing colour, and started heading for the white dome again. To avoid another confrontation, I decided to wake up.

Last night, I saw the road again, only I was slightly closer to the dome. I flew over to the dome, and took a look inside, where I saw a lot of people who I recognised waving to me. I looked around, and saw what I assume was an angel flying towards me. I asked if I was looking at heaven. The angel said "no, but this is similar. Let me show you around".

I was briefly shown a town, then I was lead to what appeared to be a fountain in the centre, which had a beam of white light going straight up out of the centre, paast the roof of the dome, and up into the sky. Standing at the fountain, I suddenly felt my body splitting into seven new bodies, which swirled round, looking a bit like half of a DNA strand.


I think the seven bodies were astral, physical, mental, etc, and the hand was something evil.

Has anyone had anything similar happen to them?

I have heard a lot about focus levels/astral levels. The mind awake/body asleep being at level 10.
Is there anywhere that has a list of all these levels, I can remember a post having a brief list, but I can never find it in a search.

Whenever I try to AP I always get really itchy, I can stand it for about 5 mins, but it gradually grows unbearable and i have to stop.

How do i stop getting itchy?

A few days ago I was just standing around in my room, just wondering what to do. Then I started seeing these wierd things, they were life a very bright white dot with a reddish tail. I saw loads of these things dancing around in front of me for about 5 seconds (I actually saw them with my own two eyes, not in my minds eye). Then they all dissappeared as quickly as they had appeared. I've been doing energy work and such forabout 2 and a half months now.

Is this some psychic phenomena or should I talk to my optician?

I have been doing energy work for about a month now, and i find that i can sometimes see auras and different types of energy in my minds eye. I have never tryed to learn auric vision.

Could this just be happening naturally?