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Hi Lamb interesting post. when i phase i get the exact same thing with faces that you were describing. The funny thing is i didnt know what phasing was i just assumed it was normal and never took any notice of it.... i never used phasing as a method to project either. One of the biggest things that  will stop you from experiencing an OBE is fear, fear of the unknown. Keep up the good work and you will get one soon with practice!

but there are two versions, the hand, and then another one with the firm grip around the ankles, which startled me  when it first happened,

My very first experience with OOB was being grabbed by the ankles and pulled out, it felt like i was being sucked through a straw, which scared the hell out me and i quickly resisted and woke up! maybe if my hand was grabbed i would have reacted differently! but i had known very little/nothing at the time...

ahhhh very interesting you say dat, as what you describe seems to be of the same opinion of Dr. Edgar Mitchell in his book "The Way of The Explorer", if you haven't read it i'd encourage you to read it, i can post it to you if your interested ( once u return it of course  ) He talks about the minds connection with the body and how they interact, analysing it from scientific and spiritual view points...  sooo i was kind of leaning towards that explanation!

Thanks Xanth! and could i get your opinion on my second question, or even point me towards a relevant information source as regards to a "connecting undertone" to this whole area... that is if one exists... im trying to find a common element that connects all this together. 

You might have been able to go OOB again. But apparently your astral awareness/consciousness was none too clear and the opportunity passed by.

Well i was aware while i was lucid that i could go OOB again, infact i felt myself beginning to go OOB 4/5 times but i resisted it! Is it normal to go from OOB to a LD?

and when i mentioned the connecting undertone, i kind of meant that there must be something connecting everything (OBE, LD, astral projections, etc) together, maybe it is all just a conscious experience in your mind? or something different where you transcend into a different state/realm.... i realise there will probably be many different answers to my second question! but some light on it would be nice.

thanking you

Congratz on your first OBE! 


:NoY:

thanks NoY

[connecting undertone]

This morning i had my first OBE experience, ( hurray )  it left me with a plate of emotions and questions as i'm sure you could imagine.  I am relatively new to this whole experience, teaching and the AP community!

Well like many 1st OBEs it began with vibrations, mild enough ones, but very noticeable.  I could then hear people screaming and what sounded like growling noises, my astral legs slipped out of my body first at a 45degree angle however my torso area and head seemed stuck.  I encountered some resistance but used the roll out technique which worked like a charm!  Once out of my body the vibrations stopped and so did the screaming, this all happened very fast, infact it seemed to be simultaneously (the screamings, vibrations and the exiting) happening! 

Once out of my body i began to float upwards and in circles, bouncing into walls along the way to the ceiling where i flipped over and seen myself in the bed ( i could not see my face, only the outline of my body under the sheets and in the position i had slept).  My view was greyscale and had dream like qualities.  It was at this point when i thought to myself "hey, lets try do some cool stuff".  I tried to run around my room at a 90degree angle to the walls but failed miserably!! I ended up spinning through walls and found it hard to direct where i  wanted to go while floating ( This reminded me of when i was skydiving at first and attempting to stabilize myself during freefall ) I then floated my astral body back to my physical body but didn't wake up to my surprise, as i thought i would!

I got out of my bed and walked around the house, ( in a lucid dream state at this point, i think!?) as i walk around i get this sensation that i want to leave my body, this happens about 4/5 times, but i resist it and stay lucid (controlling my dream and walking around as i please) I am very confused at this stage, so i take a look out side my front door hoping that i will see my estate and it will shed some light on this confusion.  I open my door and sure enough i see my estate, the street lights are pulsating and for the 1st time i can see colour vividly, which it did not have the greyscale quality as before.

As i am looking at the lights a woman walks past me and asks "where is that house i wanted to buy"  I found this REALLY weird as yesterday i had a dream where i was at my front door and the same woman asked me directions to a house....

So i can try figure out and explore most of the experience by research, but i have two questions:

1. How did i manage to exit my physical body into my astral body, then from my astral body enter back into my physical body which turned into a lucid dream? usually a lucid dream sparks an exit into an astral body, i seemed to have reversed this process, and should i have woken up if i re entered my physical body from my astral body? i'm confused more than anything...

2. Are dreams and lucid dreams connected? are they a dyad? when i first saw the woman in my normal dream asking me directions that was fine, as dreams can be weird and it was just a normal dream to me, however when i was lucid dreaming i felt almost like i was connected, in the same energy space as that woman, were these two episodes related, surely this must mean that there is some connecting undertone to all experiences that are experienced and this particular experience in question; astral body to lucid dreaming and viva versa, and also the connection of dreams and lucid dreams.... again CONFUSION. 

3. And what is this connecting undertone?


Finally i would like to show my appreciation to all the AP community for sharing their information, experiences and knowledge. 


Openmind.

Hey, Ricky! It's Arlindo here! Where are you from? Are you my guitar friend Ricky? If not, welcome anyway! LOL!

Heya Arlindo, i'm from Ireland where bouts are you from?  and sorry i cant play the guitar,   however i do LOVE and music of all sorts... music is the rhythm to life.

hello! Im new here too and believe me you will be glad you have an open mind when you see all the stuff there is to read. It was super humbling to me to see how far along others are with this. Its like going back to school but you have to teach yourself. I thought I would read a couple things, do a little meditation and Id be flying out of my body in no time... not so! Ive had to swallow my pride and realize that there is a lot of learning I still need to do before I mess with things I have no proper education about.  So, good luck to you, I hope you stick with it. Dont give up like I almost did !

Exactly, I am always open to new experiences and I am so glad a site like this exists where people can share knowledge and educate others, the internet is a powerful tool when used properly it can bring the minds of the people together from all walks of life! I look forward to reading the wealth of resources here, I guess i still have lots to learn and experience before I can make a worth while contribution to the community!!  

Hallo openmind and welcome.
First off let me suggest that you spend a few minutes and check out the "Welcome to FAQ Forum".
There is a lot of good info there and it might answer some of your questions.

Regards  
Grey

No problem Grey, I have already familirised myself with them.



Thanks for all the replies!

I'm prone to write the odd poem when i get inspired by something i hear or see... i have a passing interest in poetry and enjoy reading poems that have an open interpretation! This is something i wrote today.  I hope yas enjoy my cynical side with a dash of optimism! Any questions or comments are appreciated!!
Ricky.

Brankrupt Morals

The knitted threads of pyramid tops
Seems never where the book stops,

They unbalanced our seesaw
A vibrant future is what we saw,

Every man's sure to falls with untied laces
Few saw the filthy grime in wrinkles of smiling faces,

Leaving our doughnut economy with one sprinkled side only
Built on borrowed time, in truth a phoney,

Bottom of the waterboy but I get by with an openmind, like the other millionaires
Unlike those material men with bankrupt morals.

You are very talented!! You have some really nice work there, well done mate. I particularly like the hands which seem they are just about to join into a praying position where they are separated by millimeters, its almost like they are made from the bark of a tree too which i think is cool. I also like the green tones which fade into browns. 

Hello everyone, My name is Ricky and im kinda new these experiences and fourms of this like.  I always kept an "openmind" to everything a and only recently have i been experimenting with Luicid dreaming and AP, I thought i`d join this fourm to meet new people and hopefully gain some knowledge and share experiences.

Talk to yas all soon!!

Ricky.