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#1
Welcome to Astral Chat! / a demon?
November 10, 2003, 17:00:47
This photo has nothing to do with the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

This photo originated on the Art Bell "Coast To Coast AM" radio program site (the URL then was http://www.artbell.com )and was sent to Art with an explanation the photo was taken in a cave in South America when two cavers cornered this thing on the cave walls and then got somewhat spooked and left the cave in a hurry. There were some thoughts this creature may have been the legendary Chupacabra.

I am not sure if the picture remains in the archives of the new Coast To Coast AM site at http://www.coasttocoastam.com


#2
quote:
Originally posted by Ybom

 Can we resolve this in another way than resorting to YELLING?



Who is "yelling" here? Surely not me. Perhaps you mistake my capitalizations used for emphasis for the internet standardization of "yelling" That would be silly, of course: just try reading my previous post aloud and yell at each capitalized word.




The Hidden Name Of God


"I am yhwh, that is my name"
(Leviticus 19.12, 22.2; Isaiah 42.8; Jeremiah 16.21, et al)

The Genesis story tells us that, after some years spent with Jethro and his tribe, Moses was tending his flock one day when he spotted a glowing light far up the mountain slope. Upon reaching the source of the glow, he found a burning bush from which the voice of the god Yahweh (Jehovah) emanated. Naturally Moses asked the voice who he was. The famous and puzzling response was 'I am who I am' . This single cryptic sentence has been analysed and debated for centuries. What does it mean? A new explanation has now come to light which appears to reveal the earliest and previously hidden name of the Hebrew god.

Sumerian literature identifies the god who warns Noah of the impending flood as Enki, the same deity whose temple was located at Eridu. Enki's Akkadian (East Semitic) name was Ea (pronounced Eya). The Hittites referred to him simply as Ya.

If we translate the mysterious 'I am who I am' of Exodus 3:14 back into Hebrew we discover perhaps the most remarkable of all biblical plays on words. What Moses heard was 'eya(h) asher eya(h)'  - the 'h's are silent. This does indeed mean 'I am who I am' but it can also be translated as 'I am the one who is called Eya' . This gives a whole new meaning to God's subsequent instruction to Moses.

When the exiled prince of Egypt says 'Behold, if I go to the Israelites and say to them, "The god of your ancestors has sent me to you," and they say to me, "What is his name?", what am I to tell them?'  the reply from the burning bush is: 'This is what you are to say to the Israelites, "Eya (not 'I am') has sent me to you". You are to tell the Israelites, "Yahweh, the god of your ancestors, the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has sent me to you." This is my name for all time and in this way I am to be invoked for all generations to come.' Yahweh was, from that moment, to become the new name of the Mesopotamian deity whose original Semitic name was Eya.

The god of the Hebrew ancestors can thus be traced back to a great Sumerian deity with many epithets: the 'friend of Man', the 'clever god', the god of the sweet waters and the watery Abyss, but whose most important title was Enki, the 'Lord of the Earth'...



...and also Enki is the ONE specifically named to have warned Noah (Ziusudra) about the flood and provided directions as to how to build the Ark in the Sumerian epic of creation, "Enuma Elish",...

... a document that predates all of the original Biblical text and likely the source of the origin of creation in Genesis.

#3
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Originally posted by Allanon



God is all powerful and would not allow the evils of men to currupt His Word.

When Jesus comes you will know Him because He created you. It will be like looking at your Father for the first time. You will know it in your heart and you will know it because reality will cease as you know it.

Have Faith Brother.



Let me tell you something "brother", the beliefs you tailor your own life by are founded in pure FANTASY. They avertly  and visibly polarizations of mental antitheses, good verses evil, light verses darkness. As such in reality and in the world you KNOW they have no place: they are not real, they are not accurate and they are FABRICATIONS of man done to simplify the complexities of LIFE.

You speak of Jesus as if you know him, but you do not. You speak of him only in the vein of how he matters to YOUR life.  I have no doubt that you define yourself as a "born again christian" with this, your own, definition being based on THE CHRIST giving his life in order to compensate for YOUR sins and those of your forefathers and, indeed, all mankind.  Yet in truth IF Christ's life mattered a whit, it was what he did IN LIFE and what he stood for and NOT his death, AND YET it is by the death that you "born again" christians would define yourselves! But Christs life, as you would define it, is the end of that life on the cross and his resurrection. THereby the Father and son and Holy Ghost have compensated for YOUR and "our" sins. Yet this life is far more than the death.

The fact of the matter is that the concept of the "Trinity" was derived at by MAN's corrupt standards and through much blood and loss of life.  

What about the very doctrine of the "Trinity" itself?  The doctrine of the Trinity came into "acceptance" from a loaded, corrupt VOTE under Constantine at the Counsel of Nicea and was done in order to remove bloodshed and turmoil under Constantine, who himself was not even a Christian! The doctine of the "Trinity" was man's POLITICS and had nothing to do with REALITY nor spirituality nor the turth of our very SOULS!

Reference: "The Trinity Doctrin/Dogma Exposed "
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/trinity.html

Finally, it is a known historcial fact that these same Jews "lost" a number of Books entirely and had to go to the Greeks and Romans to retrieve these. In the larger picture, the rise of the Holy Roman Empire with its combination of the religious and secular kingship and power led to further motive for the Bible's books to be altered and edited. It is no matter of mere coincidence that the Holy Roman Empire reserved the rite to recognize and empower kinships, with the source of "kingship" and origin of the term being originally in the line of Cain (cain-ship), identifying a direct line with the Lord. While these "lost" books recovered from the Greeks and Romans have no conflicting documents to undermine them, this is not a testament to the fact these are the "unaltered word of God."

Ultimately the "reality" that you choose to project does not exist and has NEVER EVISTED and is more a fabrication of your DESIRE and NEED than it is of anything having to do with realities which you will ever known in this or any future. Man has currutped not only the "word of god' and what he represented, "God" himself, but also the very ORIGIN of our existance and WHO and WHAT we *ARE*!



#4
Deuteronomy
chapter 32


7 Think back on the days of old, reflect on the years of age upon
age. Ask your father and he will inform you, ask your elders and they
will tell you:

8 When the Most High assigned the nations their heritage, when he
parceled out the descendants of Adam, He set up the boundaries of the
peoples after the number of the sons of God;

9 While the LORD'S own portion was Jacob, His hereditary share was
Israel.

10 He found them in a wilderness, a wasteland of howling desert. He
shielded them and cared for them, guarding them as the apple of his
eye.

11 As an eagle incites its nestlings forth by hovering over its
brood, So he spread his wings to receive them and bore them up on his
pinions.

12 The LORD alone was their leader, no strange god was with him.

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Beyond doubt all books of the Bible have been heavily edited, with
these edits and alterations and omissions being more prevalent in the
Torah (old testament) simply as a result of the influence ot time
(and many hands on the writings in that time interval, with each of
these hands motivated by having subjective interpretations and
beliefs of what their overall intent and meaning actually was.) Also,
much was edited, restructured and removed from the Bible itself at
the Counsel of Nicea and elsewhere. The restructuring of the faith
also occured in such bloody conflicts as Pope Innocent III's brutal
thirty-five-year military assault against the albigens ("Pure Ones")
known as the Albigensian Crusades.

The undeniable liklihood of editings done for a purpose is also
inherent in examining the Jewish faith because the earliest Hebrew
writings (which were rehashed many centuries later) were themselves
only written between the 6th and the 1st centuries BC, so they were
not likely to be that authentic in their telling of history from
thousands of years before. Indeed, it is likely that when these very
earliest books were first constituted in written form, their express
purpose was to convey a history which upheld the principles of the
Jewish faith - a faith that did not emerge until well into the
ancestral story.

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These editings and restructurings are known, historical facts but
also are quite evident in the Bible itself:

For example, in the Old Testament neither the "Book of Jubilees" nor
the "Book of Enoch" were included.

Also despite being reference in both the books of Joshua and Samuel.
the Book of Jesher was nowhere included in the Old despite despite
this clear importance to the Hebrew writers.

Two other works are also cited in the Bible. The Book of Numbers
draws our attention to the "Book of The Wars of Jehovah". And in the
Book of Isaiah we are directed towards the "Book of the Lord". What
are these books? WHERE are these books? Despite other uncertainties
the differentiation between "Jehovah and "The Lord" is quite evident
in their titles.


Beyond doubt the disparate tribes of Isreal once had numerous gods
which they worshipped. One of these, the eastern Akkadians
worshipped "Baal" who in their tongue literally meant "Lord". In my
above references I touch on the link of "Baal" to "Baal-zebub" or
beelzebub, with the origin of the aramaic word "zebub" meaning "to
flt about from place to place" with then entire word meaning "Lord
of the Heavens/Skies" or "Lord of Flight". It was statues erected to
this Baal that led to the edict of no craven idols. Curiously this
edict was overlooked in the creating of the arc of the covenant with
its golden seraphim atop (but this is another discussion). Curiously
the jews were led into slavery to break their devotion to this Baal
and then later led for "two years" in the desert to, perhaps, break
their spirits and build their dependency upon this other. The Bible
explains that Jerusalem was overthrown at Jehovah's bidding and tens
of thousands of Jews were taken into Babylonian captivity simply
because their King (a descendant of King David) had erected altars in
veneration of Baal, the Adon. It was during the course of this
captivity that the Israelites weakened and finally conceded. To my
mind this is an awfully large inclination to follow one god and a
disinclination to follow another.

Is it not possible that this 'disassembled" picture of God seen in
the Old Testament, sometimes vengeful and sometimes caring for
mankind, could this seeming schizophrenia be the result of trying to
unify two seperate beings' behaviors into one and truly "two become
one"? This dichotomy and even seeming schizophrenia of action and
character is seen throughout the Bible. It is seen when Cain is on
one hand cast out and then a "mark" us put apon him and vengence is
sworn seven fold on any who would harm Cain. Some would explain this
as Cain being born of "the Lord and Eve" and not actually being
Adam's offspring, which is supported by direct translations of the
text. In fact the lines from both Cain and Seth show a curious
scrambling with each line having the _exact_ same names yet only in a
different order. Is this similarity in lineage demonstrating a
deliberate desire to disguise the origin of the line described in the
Bible?

Also this dichotomy is suggested by God swearing to wipe the earth of
mankind, leading the the flood of Noah. Once again it is the Lord who
steps up and warns Noah and indicates how to survive this
catastrophe. This duality is even supported by the seperate and
likely pre-existing Sumerian tale of the flood in the epic of
creation, Enuma Elish. In the Enuma Elish it is Enki who warms
Ziusudra (Noah) of the flood and indicates how to build the ark.

Perhaps the tie to Noah and Ziusudra is just a common cross-cultural
mythos of a flood, and yet perhaps there is more there. As I indicate in the "Two Become One?" discussions, the continuity of the namings and epithets of these two beings across cultures and centuries coincides too closely to be mere coincidence:
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To define who these two beings might be, we must look no further than
where these gods were actually operative, and the old Canaanite texts
(discovered in Syria in the 1920s) tell us that their courts were in
the Tigris-Euphrates valley in Mesopotamia, in the Sumerian Eden
delta of the Persian Gulf. In tracing these ancient Sumerian records
back to about 3700 B.C. we discover that these two gods were
brothers. In Sumer, the storm god who eventually became known as
Jehovah was called 'Enlil' or 'Ilu-kur-gal' (meaning 'Ruler of the
Mountain'), and his brother, who became Adon, the Lord, was
called 'Enki'. To the Canaanites, these gods were respectively
called 'El Elyon' and 'Baal' - which meant precisely the same things
('Lofty Mountain' and 'Lord'). In different cultures they have been
known as 'El Elyon' and 'Baal'; 'El Shaddai' and 'Adon'; 'Arhiman'
and 'Mazda'; 'Jehovah' and 'Lord'; 'God' and 'Father'.

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We even see this differentiation betweeen "Most High" (quite similar
to "Lofty Mountain") and "The Lord" in Deuteronomy 32 in a transition
from verse 8 to verse 9.


Ultimately even the Bible itself points to this duality in not just
what is present within the Bible but what is ABSENT FROM the Bible
too. The missing books "Book of The Wars of Jehovah and the "Book of
the Lord" are referenced by The Book of Numbers and the Book of
Isaiah, respectively. What are these books? WHERE are these books?
And Why are these books absent from the Bible despite their obvious
importance to Biblical authors in referencing them?

There is one more question stemming from these books absence: "Could
the 'Book of the Wars of Jehovah' actually be about Enlil overcoming
Enki (the friend of man) and does this explain the jews' reluctance
to accept this god as their own?"

Ultimately, all of these incongruities should make us question not
only what is written in the Bible but just how far removed man is
from "God". After all, both Deut. 32 and Psalm 58 clearly recognize
numerous other gods and indicate these gods were partitioned
governance over portions of mankind. Also keep in mind in Genesis it
was "sons of God" who saw the daugters of man to be appealing and did
bear offspring with them. Incidentally, the Book of Enoch shows
clearly these offspring were cherished by these "watchers" as
numerous appeals were made through Enoch to save their offspring's
lives. These are not just cold, calculating deceptive "demons" and,
in fact, nowhere in the Old Testament nor the Book of Enoch is there
ANY EVIDENCE whatsoever of any to become represented as the "Devil"
nor one who was at God's "right hand" and then betrayed him; this is
all "spin" done by the church and organized religion to convey that
there was only "one god", the truth being that the Victor wrote the
history.

But even more curious is Genesis 3:22 which echoes God's own
sentiments on Adam (man) having eaten from the fruit of the tree of
knowledge:

quote:
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And the LORD God said, Behold, the MAN HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US, to
know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take
also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever ...
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Here God confirms that the "serpent" was good at his word and man did
indeed acquire the "knowledge of good and evil"(self awareness?
control of his own destiny?) Is this 'serpent" actually Enki and is
something more being descrived here than eating the fruit of trees?
In fact much of the Bible from the story of Eden to the flood of Noah
is clearly about controling man's very genetics, with the flood of
Noah perhaps being intended to wipe the genes of the "sons of God"
from mankind's genetic heritage.

Again, how far removed can we be from this God or gods?