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you guys are killing me here I'm not saying that its not safe to meditate at all I'm saying in this case for this person its not.... its obvious the person said that they fall asleep while trying to meditate they also said that it keeps them up and growls at them while there sleeping and it has blown air in there face......all I'm doing is giving advice on what has helped me because i have been in the same situation many times... they don't have to listen to it or do what I'm saying...until you have had the same experience don't judge my advice this has nothing to do with astral projecting ..... there are demons and bad sprits that want to harm you maybe one day you will have it done to you and your prospective will change ...... i don't see how I'm causing fear . i never said run for the hills its gonna kill you all i did was state my mistakes and what i did to make my situation better and what they should and shouldn't do 

.....You are one of the two, two of the one, or one of the zero. - you are good or you are evil , you are evil or you are good, or your nothing

If you are one of the zero, then you are lucky, you were never born.- if you are nothing and ur not born u can't be either
i have to leave for school now but i will finish when i get home  it is very touching and deep i want to explain every line so that maybe people will understand
if I'm going down the wrong path let me know 

in this case it is bad if you would have read the hole thread like i did u would have seen that the person said that they keep falling asleep in the middle of meditation if you can't control your self and don't have the self discipline while meditating u fall asleep ..meditation is just like a sleeping state its obvious that this person is not strong snuff to meditate without being harmed because they are scared i have dealt with these kind of things since i was little and it would bother me more when my defenses where down yes if your experienced in meditation and know how to protect your self this would be ok but this is not the case they are on here asking for help so i provided things that have worked for me..... now when you are awake you can say leave me alone things to protect your self when you are sleeping you don't know whats going on hence my boyfriend being possessed to bite me.. ... butt for the church songs talking about god is key ( or who ever you believe in) has worked for me all that pure energy huppity blue blah goes out the window when you are dealing with something like this its not a ghost its pure evil..... so danzino unless you can offer ur expertise in this or this has happened to you and u have something better maybe you should offer it instead of worrying about me being on a rant train helping out someone in need.....

ok i will try that thank you

i understand what u are saying if people just take the time to read it they would understand to

  SORRY .... o sorry lol

DANNI I HAVE HAD THE SAME THING IT FOLLOWS ME TALKS IN MY EAR AT NIGHT GROWLS AT ME IT EVEN POSSESSED MY BOYFRIEND IN HIS SLEEP AND HE GROWLED AND BIT ME WHILE WE WERE SLEEPING MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE TO STOP TALKING TO IT ITS NOT NICE AND ITS NOT TRYING TO BE YOUR FRIEND NOW I GOT MINE TO STOP BY FIGHTING BACK TELLING IT THAT IM NOT SCARED THE MORE POWERFUL AND FEARLESS U ARE THE LESS IT BOTHERS YOU MINE IS STILL HERE IT JUST DOESNT BOTHER ME AS MUCH O AND DONT LISTEN TO WHAT IT SAYS I DONT KNOW Y PEOPLE ARE TELLING U TO TALK TO IT THAT MAKES THINGS WORSE... AND MEDITATION IS BAD ALSO AND UR FALLING ASLEEP ..... WHEN YOUR SLEEP U ARE AT UR WEAKEST AND CANT PROTECT YOUR SELF SO U NEED TO LEARN TO DO IT IN YOUR SLEEP DONT WANT TO GET ALL RELIGIOUS ON YOU BUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE ITS BOTHERING YOU N YOUR SLEEP JUST START SINGING A CHURCH SONG THAT U KNOW I SING YES JESUS LOVES ME IT WORKS..... ALSO NEXT TIME ITS BLOWS COLD AIR AT YOU BLOW IT BACK ( I KNOW YOUR BREATH IS NOT COLD LOL) BUT IT JUST SHOWS THAT U CAND STAND UR GROUND AND U WONT BE PUSHED AROUND HOPE THIS HELPS IF YOU NEED ANYMORE HELP U CAN HIT MY INBOX AND ID BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU

YOUR SHOWING IT THAT ITS BOTHERING YOU SO ITS GOING TO CONTINUE IGNORE IT FOR A FEW NIGHTS PUT ON HEADPHONES LISTEN TO MUSIC AND IT SHOULD STOP IF ITS SAYING YOUR NAME IT MIGHT BE SOMEONE U KNOW AND THERE JUST TRYING TO TALK TO YOU TRY EVP GET A RECORDER AND BEFOR YOU GO TO SLEEP PRESS RECORD AND ASK IT WHAT IT WANTS AND ITS NAME IN THE MORNING CHECK IT LET ME KNOW HOW THIS WORKS

PUT YOUR ENERGY BALL NEXT TO UR BED LAYDOWN TURN OFF ALL THE LIGHTS U CAN LEAVE ON A TV AND LOOK AROUND THE GOOD ONES WILL SHOW THERE SELF THE BAD WILL WAIT TILL U FALL ASLEEP ... MY EXPERIENCE WAS A BAD ONE THEY WAIT TILL I FALL A SLEEP AND HELD ME DOWN I DIDNT HAVE A ENERGY BALL I GUESS IT WAS THE TV  HOPE THIS HELPS BUT I WOULDNT DO IT IF U GOT THEM TO LEAVE U ALONE GOOD WISH I WAS THAT LUCKY

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF TRYING WITH ANOTHER PERSON..... BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE IF IT WORKS BECAUSE IF IT DOES IT WOULD PROVE THAT IT IS REAL AND WE ARE REALLY EXPERIENCING THESE THINGS ..... YOU AND UR HUSBAND SHOULD BOTH TRY THEN WHEN YOU ARE BACK BOTH OF YOU WRITE DOWN WHAT HAPPEN ON A PAPER AND COMPARE

I THINK THAT THERE IS NO TIME WHEN I WAS LITTLE I WOULD FLY AROUND FOR WHAT SEEMED LIKE HOURS BUT WHEN I WAKE UP IT WOULD STILL BE NIGHT LIKE I JUST WENT TO SLEEP SO WHAT SEEMS LIKE HOUSE WAS REALLY PROBABLY A MATER OF SECS OR MIN IN REALITY

YEA THAT MIGHT HELP BECAUSE WHEN I DO IT WITH OUT KNOWING IM OK BUT WHEN I KNOW IM DOING IT I THINK IT SCARES ME AND I WAKE UP

I HAVE THOSES I EMBRACE THEM I NEVER REALLY KNOW ITS A PSYCHIC DREAM UNTIL IT HAPPENS SOMETHING I HAVE TO WORK ON BUT MY ADVICE TO YOU CO WORKER WOULD BE TO JUST NOT WORRY ABOUT IT IVE FOUND THAT THE MORE WORRIED I AM THE MORE I DREAM IF SHE JUST RELAXES AND EMBRACE IT SHE WONT DREAM SO MUCH TELL HER TO LISTEN TO MUSIC OR WATCH A MOVIE BEFORE SHE GOES TO SLEEP AS FOR THE SHADOW PERSON MOST OF THE TIME IF SHE JUST TELLS THEM TO GO AWAY AND LEAVE HER ALONE THEY WILL BUT SHE HAS TO MEAN IT SO TELL HER TO SAY IT IN A STERN VOICE IF SHE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT BOTH ID BE HAPPY TO HELP JUST HIT MY INBOX

OK SO ANOTHER THING IVE BEEN SEEING IS YOU CAN TRAVEL TO DIFFERENT PLANES HOW DO I DO THAT BECAUSE I JUST GO TO PLACES I KNOW PEOPLES HOUSES IVE BEEN TO BUT I SEE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO DIFFERENT WORLDS AND SUCH

I HAVE BEEN HAVING OBES SINCE I WAS LITTLE I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WERE...... PROBLEM IS I CANT CONTROL THEM IT HAPPENS WITH OUT ME TRYING. MY MOST RECENT I WAS SLEEP DURING THE DAY AND I CAME OUT OF MY BODY UP TO MY WAIST THEN FELL BACK IN AND WOKE UP... SO I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO COMPLETELY REMOVE MYSELF... WHEN I WAS LITTLE I WAS ABLE TO COME ALL THE WAY OUT AND FLY AROUND BUT NOT ANY MORE IT HAS HAPPEN BUT ONLY WHEN IM NOT NOTICING THAT IM COMING OUT OF MY BODY..... SO WHAT CAN I DO TO CONTROL THIS