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@blis - thats pretty awesome!! ...and in away what i wanted to hear.....so looks like i just need to continue meditating, and experiences will come my way eventually.....and its too soon for me to give up.

@ryan --- cant wait...someday i will be enlightened !

@NoY  - The OBEs i had were definitely unique and incredible. There is no doubting that! My only concern was that this could just be a creation in my mind and had no interaction/link to the physical world we are in as none of my experiences supported that. ( Maybe i am just not doing this right ....how in the world do i get it right? ).So what i think is, there is definitely something in this( at the least some functionality of our brain), but its frustrating cos even after all these yrs i seem stuck. I guess i just wanted to know others experiences wrt this which they can claim to be true and not just go by articles or references to a third person being able to do so etc.

@Volgerle - Thanx for the link..its pretty good!!..I do believe OBE is verifiable. What about you? Have your experiences validated it?Looks like there is more to this then what i have experienced.....

@Orion---- Thnx, what u r saying is true. I totally agree that there is something about life which is inexplicable now, and we humans might learn about it eventually. These experiences we have could just be pointing us at that direction.
I agree even the mainstream science isnt concrete and is infact very fluid, theories/models keep changing and scientists are still learning. So we might all be in a very elementary state and to explain it rationally would be difficult now.
At this point i am ready to accept that OBEs are real, but what abt claims of telepathy/telekinesis  etc and certain OBEs( spirit guides and other entities) ?  to me, i want to know if you have experienced any of this or are they just wild claims made by others( who are always third party and never available to comment)? and are we all in this wild goose chase? hunting something fictional?.
I am saying there could be some reality in the OBEs as my experiences also validates it, but what about other claims in the same category. Again, this doubt is probably cos i havent experienced it, but its possibly out there or in me  .....

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What i am also asking is  ---Are all the experiences talked about here just in our minds and are they just based on our own perceptions?
Can they be quantified? or are there instances of a non bias observation of an interaction with an actual physical object/entity  and these experiences( telekines,telepathy )etc? Is it reproduced at any time/instance at will?

Hey guys...  I have been doing some research( more like reading) into anything what is considered beyond normal human abilities for a while now. I have gone through a lot of source materials ( some age old books/poems like the vedas,gita) and a lot of books by western authors.

I have been meditating for a good 5-6 yrs. I was not really regular, so there have been days/weeks when i havent. I had a few experiences which i can say comes close to OBEs described here, tuning in to a particular sound/voices, sleep paralysis ,lucid dreams etc.

So my understanding now - is that all these experiences were all experienced in my mind. The OBEs were constructs of my mind just like a dream, but seems very vivid and real.So the only thing  which was not normal is that, these constructs of my mind seemed very real!...but i was still physically sleeping and all this was happening in my head!!!So that sums up my "beyond the normal" experiences.

In anycase they were all just in my head and none of them even closely impacted my reality or was based on it. It wasnt in anyway directly associated  with the actual physical world. None of my experiences had any impact on the physical world( any tangible interaction).

This forum has a lot of posts about claims which seems really fantastic--- ex - telekinesis...telepathy!!, but has anybody here experienced it first hand or seen people do it? is there any  OBE which is a proof that it wasnt something in their head but was somehow related to the physical world( some direct interaction, to prove its not a construct of the mind ).

I hear a lot of various spiritual views too ( about life ,death ,universe, karma chi, energy levels,chakras  etc), but are these just what we understand as a concept or has anybody out there experienced it as a reality?ex - gravity can be explained conceptually , and can be understood conceptually or can be discussed conceptually, but experiencing it is different.We can believe in it  because of the experience and hence it no longer is just a concept/theory.

So are these metaphysical subjects/spiritual teachings just concepts, mental constructs/fantasies or are they for real?

Are they just innocent claims  or a lure for cheating/misleading the innocent?

Are they just theories to bring about a concrete definite picture of reality? and all it has to say is valid conceptually/logically etc for a discussion but not experienced/proven.

What is the truth ?