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Thank you blue for your input,
Actually I have already projected before about 7 times (Using a drug)
When I Projected using the drug it was soo easy, in a matter of seconds after waking up and going back to sleep, just laying there and trying to sleep normally, and in seconds I get the sleep paralysis, and I feel the transition (separation), and eventually end up in a dream scene.

That's why I say the focus factor is what's missing here, for all people struggling doing this. So how can we sharp that!

Hello,

It looks like I can get to the Hypnagogic state easily (especially hearing voices, E.G. my girlfriend saying something. Or some coversations from work from work or just some random words..)

Once there, it doesn't matter how much I try to maintain my focus, I always end up:

- Sleeping.
- Or losing focus, and sleeping after sometime.

So i never reached the point where my Dream scene starts to build into my eyes, and found myself inside a dream.

So what do you think guys? what's the problem here, is it my focus that's not strong enough? or is it the hypnagogic state which is not deep enough?

and how can I solve that?

Note: Does the exercice (Staring at a point for a long period) can help increase my focus?

Thank you all.

lol, I never thought that NOY will play video games someday
Gratz dude

thank you for sharing this, I also found dolphins more spritual than other animals

I want to add: you have to do your attempts after 3-4 Hours of sleep Minimum
when you're experienced enough you will be able to get out (astral) anytime. [Very hard though]

You didn't say what time of day you are making attempts.

First attempts are most successful upon awakening after a full night's sleep.

Also try getting up after 6 hours and trying.

I try in the regular hours of the day, I know it's harder than WBTB.. but it's still possible!

I don't do my attempts after prior sleep,is because after 6 Hours of sleep, I JUST CAN'T FOCUS, and I LOSE MOTIVATION, SO i get back to sleep instantly.

that's why I prefer the regular day hours, when im more awake and Motivated

[After the step 4, I have 2 results:]

hello,

Everytime I try to project

1) I lay on my back ( I sleep Always on my stomache )
2) I try to clear my mind, I got some obssession thoughts, I try to clear them up ( Not avoiding them ).. and I avoid the others..
3) I start noticing ( Lately I used to listen to music first, and 4 HZ audios later )
4) I try to find: sometimes passively, sometimes actively, the colors changes, or the shapes and forms on my eyelid BLACKNESS

After the step 4, I have 2 results:

5.1) I get a very light sleep ( 10 - 15 Mins ) without dreams, here I wake up and I feel my body is not relaxed enough to continue practicing.. so I lie on my stomache -> I fall asleep.
5.2) I get BORED and a heavy sensation to change my position, Here I tell my self (ACTUALLY I LIE ON MYSELF) that I will continue my practice on my stomache which leads me to a very Fast Deep Sleep

NB. I m not noob, I know about OBEing, for more than 5 years..
I tried many times, sometimes I go for months without practice, But usually the IDEA of Projecting in my head ...
I Had 8 Lucid dreams (1 Natural, 7 Using Galantamine)

What i'm doing wrong?

Hi,
I'll find the link where it came from.
Im not sure if Xanth posted it a while ago on this site or his own. I'll find it.

thank you szaxx,
I think this is it!
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/02/02/new-4hz-binaural-beat/
I downloaded the MP3 file, and I will use it tonight

thanks for posting this,
I tried a 4 HZ downloaded it from youtube!
I stayed still, and listened to the frequency for more than 1 HOUR..
nothing happened, maybe I sleeped a little ( not deep sleeping ).

Can you please share the 4 HZ, you have?

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[If you're drifting casually between the "visualization" and the "physical"]

If you're drifting casually between the "visualization" and the "physical"

True ryan, i'm drifting !
I feel like i'm visualising these scenes inside my head, is it ok?
and which point of view more efficient, 1st or 3rd .?

thanks man for feedbacks

I agree... visualizing is important, but the best of the best at this can juggle visual, sensual (both touch and muscle/motor function), audio, and even smell/taste. The more you invest focus into creating the "full experience" in your mind the more you're investing away from the physical. For example... when I visualize a beach I get modest results. When I visualize it, and feel myself jogging across the beach with the sand under my toes and the salty wind in my face, seagulls squawking around me... I get high activity in my energy body.

I did the same as visualising the beach and feeling these sensations but nothing happes,
do I need the imagine the same short scene over and over ( imagining the beach ), or going on ( maybe swiming, going back to home ... )

and how much time it takes to shift into dream for you?

hello,

when visualising scences in mental rundown, I have to become in the event, not only a watcher, so the question how can I shift my awareness and become in the reality scenece, not only watchiing it like a movie.

man, if you mean bypohantasy, ( daydreaming  or visualisations ) I was very daydreamer and visualiser, but never Astralled that way, or developped anything spiritual, please clarification how to use it for OBEing

yes, that's what I think, wild is phasing

K-pax,
I watched it a year ago, it is good, but sc-fiction, has nothing to do with astral projection
it's about an alien who came to our earth !

[I think you are your own guardian.]

Are you sure its not the teacher who is on drugs?  Ive never heard anything like this.  I mean use common sense, dont go watching your neighbours daughter showering etc, but guardians?  I think you are your own guardian.

that's right

you can go every where you want when you're in OBE, invited not invited, doesn't matter !!

[gravel stepping sounds]

Hi,
The gravel stepping sounds or the high pitched note?

the begining of video

'Liminal State'

are you sure, it means If i stay focused on that sound will shift me there

In my opinion, that's a mix of the 'background' noise, along with you noticing the sounds of your blood going through your body.  Yes, you can hear that if you focus toward it.

so it has nothing to do with astral plane ?

hello,

I hear that sound everytime I relax, and focus

this is it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpEIxL1mom8&feature=related

but the video owner says he hear it in SP !

maybe it's a begining of Sleep paralysis?

out of body experience ?

thanks man, I will try it before bed !! about 1-3PM tonight

    Hello,

    Just before sleep , I can see my self acting, and switching my body part due to situations, as waking life.

    I got some hallucination before bed for ex:. I see a light , and my head gets down, ( to avoid the touching the light, ) as If I were walking with a dream body,

    I could see water on floor, and my leg twitch off to avoid slipping ..

    I can't explain this more, due to my english.

    whatever, after that sensations, I knew am about to SLEEP, and try to stay aware,

    But, bang, i'm sleep unconscioussly!

    Any thoughts, and what is called that awareness state.

Hi, nice experience man,
please what is this Kundalini meditation? can you describe it to me ?