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The topic in the documentary is much wider than the UFO, it's just a perspective from which they have approached the subject, but it's definitely an interesting watch.

Has anybody watched this documentary (I just finished watching it)? Some info about it can be found here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12108272/

By Steven Greer. Although the subject is "aliens" it actually is our consciousness, the effects of expanding it not only for ourselves, but for the entire population.

I find it pretty accurate and agree on most of the subjects covered there.

The narrative is easy to follow and is in line with the reports from many AP-ers here and elsewhere. It even goes beyond what I have read so far on the subject (connection between the wider reality and our 3D world and how we should become aware of the wider reality while being physical).

Anyways, watch it if you haven't so far. I haven't seen this level of production put into this topic so far.

Have you guys tried working with this app? Does it work for you?

I'm a bit involved in Android and iOS app development (through Flutter) and it wouldn't be too hard for me to draft something quickly if you can put down some requirements...

No problem, it works now.

Re. the forum software - the more time passes, the harder it will be to do the upgrade, I believe you're aware of that

If you can spin up a new VM and copy this server there, it could be used as an upgrade playground without the fear something will break here, but I believe you've been able to do so already.

After 4-5 attempts today to "move the ghost limb", I see progress. At the last attempt I was laying on the bed and after "swirling" my ghost legs for a couple of minutes I have imagined I have a straight metal rod coming right from my ceiling, passing me on my right side, straight down. A bit rusty, but cold and firm. So I have imagined I got hold of it with both of my hands and pulled my self up. I can swear I felt movement of my torso upwards as my head stayed down and started to turn a bit to back (not physical torso and not physical head).
Now, the head shift brought me back but it was a great next step/milestone for me.
This has been as far going out as possible until now. Very happy!

Yeah, it does seem like I'm forcing it now and have to "go back to basics".

I completely understand everything you say, yet, it seems so bloody hard to implement it

I like the rehashing reference, it resonates with my education/work

Seems like I never had an issue with the relaxation part. In less than a minute I'm literally freezed. I have a "sense" of my body like it is bigger than it is and legs and arms are felt like they are "floating" a bit, although I cannot control them yet in that state.
Then I do the breathing and energy flow through the body imagining and it all happens pretty quickly.
Neck and head have always been pretty hard and I have to repeat constantly (almost like a hypnotic suggestion) to have them relax. The focus on the high pitch sound helps the best there so far - I somehow "loose interest" in my neck and my head with that sound and they don't bother me anymore.
Anyway, I'm dedicated to keep trying as often as I can. Don't want to stop. Will make this work one way or the other.

Thanks Lumaza, yes, I think I've figured that out. The entire process does seem like hypnosis, that's how I got the idea. Seems like a hypnosis session would tremendously help enforce the process.

After days of measurable progress I'm stalling now, for the last two days, so thinking about the ways to (re)gain the momentum. Your explanation above about the strong connection to physical (body) has nailed it. That's exactly what's happening with me, I can feel it. I don't want it, I'm almost shouting during my attempts to let go, but at that point it's just a move made out of desperation and I'm already out.

I have started yesterday the "phantom movement" practice during the day, found it in your doorway thread. Not easy to do yet: I feel my physical hand twitching in both directions as I imagine the hand movement, but will keep trying.
Also, I've decided to go back to basics and dedicate today to the simple shapes thing. I'll report how it goes.

I have a question regarding the process. Would hypnosis help with it?

I'm not talking about the AP induction through hypnosis, but hypnotic help for calming down, keeping the focus and going with the flow. To have the hypnotic suggestion to "freeze", calm down and switch the focus to mind. So whenever one tries to AP, these actions would not be disturbed by the left side of the brain.

Yes, that was the issue, thanks a lot!

And thanks for the welcome!

Hi,

I cannot seem to set my profile/avatar photo.

I have tried with two different formats of the photo, jpg and png, both with 64x64px size (has this requirement changed?) but no change is visible upon setting the URL's.

This is the link for the png version: https://i.imgur.com/dgeUHRK.png

Does anyone have an idea how to make this work?

Thanks,

Oh, wow, Lumaza, what a great message!

I really appreciate your explanations. I am analytical and your description resonates with me pretty well. I understand what you mean and I understand how I should apply it if I feel the need to change. I have read similar explanations elsewhere, but yours is a spot on for me. Thank you.

My trials are usually short, except when I'm going to sleep or for a nap, and I mostly have an analytical session with myself after each one (except for the few occasions when I went asleep during the trial).

I must say I really do feel more encouraged from both of you to continue than I expected I could be. Thank you both for that!

I will definitely update the progress as it happens.

Nameless, thanks a lot for the kind words!

Not being worthy is exactly how I feel, I hope I'll find a way to overcome it.

... You said at the top you don't really remember Aping but felt like you did. I'd hazard to say you have already been through a number of levels and now it's time to wake up what it all means. I think most of us here have come to realize that a LOT or work takes place that we are unaware of till some appointed time.
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After everything I have read, I believe the same thing, that I did it. And I'm afraid I'll remember it at some point and be disappointed with myself. But even then, I'm ready to improve and move on. I have many questions and feel hungry to learn; not just the helping part but beyond. It's very intriguing... how everything works, although I don't believe I can understand that yet. Also why, but that's even further beyond my level of comprehension.
Interesting part is that everything i have read so far, experiences not only within our levels of ascension, but also the other worlds'/realities', doesn't seem odd to me at all.
I remember reading an experience of a user Gini or Giny... visiting an out-of-Earth realm and meeting a ball shaped being completely unaware of anything else - even that made sense. I could not only imagine it, but somehow understand it.

I also cannot believe what I'm experiencing these days and how I behave. I have definitely changed fundamentally. A lot of my views and opinions of various people and events are now so different that I cannot recognize myself. We'll see where all that leads. I don't intend to stop learning and (re)searching now.

Hello everyone!

First I want to say a big THANK YOU to everyone contributing to this forum. I hope that in due time I'll be able to do the same.

I'm in my forties now, male, I have a family consisting of my lovely wife and two daughters. I'm from Europe (not the too hairy type as someone was describing us here  ). I've had the idea of AP since about 25 years ago.. did few attempts back then, but nothing serious, then I forgot about it completely. Until the few weeks ago.

I have ran into a QHHT session description and I sort of vaguely remembered the "feeling", the sensation of being out of body although I have never consciously experienced it. It was a sort of an awakening moment for me.

Now, I remember that for the past 25 years I've had few experiences that are related to AP, although I don't remember AP-ing explicitly. I do remember that sometimes when I've been going to sleep I've been entering this beautiful "3d blackness" (I've got this term/description recently) the wasn't completely black... Sort of grayish surrounding with black "forms" floating around like in a lava lamp. Sometimes the area would start getting colors making it even more beautiful, but that was about it what I can remember, I would fall asleep and remember it only the next time I lay down to bed.
I also had few lucid dreams. I forgot the actual dreams but even today I clearly remember the realization within that I am dreaming, that it is my dream and that I can "do whatever I want" and it was such a good feeling... To be aware of yourself in a surrounding you can control completely. It was probably related to my real life experiences at the time when I was lacking control of many things and I felt like I was spiraling down in many ways.

So, to get back to today.

Since I became aware of AP again few weeks ago I have started trying to do it. Not occasionally but very, very often. Against the advice I've read somewhere that I should be attempting twice or three times a week, I'm at the 2-4 times a day stage. And I do see progress. In the mean time I've read all the Monroe's books as well as Xanth's guide and many other posts (this forum is GREAT, btw), compilations (like Frank's), etc. And they have all been very helpful.

My first attempts were more around trying to relax properly. To be aware of my body, the breathing, the energy circulating around.

I have found somewhere a QHHT script with a healing technique that was suggesting to imagine a stream running from above towards us that is not just crystal clear, but like it is a liquid crystal. And then we point the stream towards our chakras. And we deep dive into the experience of the crystals "enlightening" our chakras. I did this on the first or second evening, before going to sleep, and I was surprised in the morning of the positive effect it had on me! I clearly felt a physical "feeling better" in the areas where I was directing the stream. I had lost some symptoms of the issues I'm having for quite some time. It is my own personal miracle and I still cannot believe how easy it is.
My trials to AP continued, daily.

I had two main issues with the process: I couldn't stop my mind from "commenting" the entire experience and every little step and that was pulling me back constantly and I couldn't relax my eyes enough so whenever I was entering the "3d blackness" my eyes would start flickering and opening, like they wanted to gain back the control of the visuals in my mind.

Also, in real life I am very, very visual. I am daydreaming without an issue, I have no problem to imagine anything at all and "feel" it with any of my senses. But as soon as I lay down to try an AP and I close my eyes, my imagination goes vacant. I'm unable to imagine anything at all. It is very frustrating.  So, instead of imagining and focusing on an object in front of me (a dot, a vortex or whatever) I started doing what I'm doing during the day: I pick a topic and then I imagine the entire situation, with surroundings, characters, dialogues, as much senses as possible and this worked great in suppressing the physical reality of the moment. In the beginning this would lead me very fast to sleep, but after few attempts I was able to stay conscious for longer periods of time.

Now, in the physical world my first degree peers are perceiving me as someone with a stable and strong attitude, standpoint. People take my comments and observations very seriously. I am often asked for advice or some kind of help. I do tend to "naturally" understand people and behavior patterns and it helps me helping them. Every time I see a "deviation" in anyone's behavior (behavior is not a good word, it's more of a feeling how they feel) I have an urge to help them. Over years I got used to this: it has built a lot of confidence in my appearance. But this seems to prevent me from AP-ing so far. It is really hard to get rid of yourself (the thoughts) when you are so used to have them and believe in them. I have realized I have a pretty strong ego, individuality, I have to somehow get rid of. It's really hard. Harder than I could imagine. Especially that although I have all the confidence, deep down I am very insecure as I am not even close to a person I want to be, am ashamed actually of the many choices I have made throughout my life, but I keep the confident side expressing almost all the time as I find it essential in raising my daughters (and it is helpful).

My first serious milestone came in yesterday. I don't know now where I read it, but someone, somewhere, has mentioned that a very good attempt would be to concentrate on a high pitch sound if we can hear it and then to focus on it more. And this was my personal breakthrough so far. When I lay to bed and started with relaxation I have immediately noticed the high pitch sound.
Up until that point I was expecting to sense some sort of vibrations and this was "proved" after listening to the first Gateway experience CD a couple of times, as I was really feeling those vibrations building up from my legs up and the vibrations were of low frequency (however, these vibrations were never been able to spread to my head - I could spread them everywhere, but my neck was a hard limit for them to spread further up).
Now it was different. The sound was of a very high frequency and I did not "hear" it but somehow I've sensed it. I was just aware of it. And it was in my head. The moment I have started to move my focus and concentration towards that sense, the "sound" started to get stronger and stronger and was coming in waves. At one point it got really strong and the wave started to expand downwards my body. I felt the wave expanding my chest in a moment and that's when "I was back in my body" or that's how it felt (like I was tuning myself to a higher frequency with the high pitch sound but then I have de-tuned my self to my physical body frequency - not sure if this is an accurate description, but, like many others, I'm pretty speechless in describing the actual sensations). The de-tuning moment felt a bit disappointing. I knew it happened because of some sort of a fear of the unknown (not consciously) but I have solved few of the earlier blocks: while I was expanding the high pitch sound I was way deep into the 3D blackness and I no longer had issues with either my thoughts or my eyes. I was so into the experience that even I have felt my eyes tremor a few times I was just beyond the point where that could impact my experience. My thoughts were also much more focused and there was no any side commenting of the events.

Today I have confirmed already once I was beyond the previous issues with my eyes and my thoughts but was snapped back again. Not because of the fear, but my daughter came into the room.

So I'm pretty happy with where I am at the moment, what I have achieved so far in just a few weeks (probably a bit less).  And can't wait to finally experience it fully aware.

The process seems like an old platform game and I'm passing through various levels, each with its own "queen" at the end that I need to master how to pass Looking forward to reach the final one!

It does seem I'm pretty close. The excitement I feel because of it also seems somewhat more mature than the excitement I was feeling earlier. I'm somehow more excited about it and more calm at the same time. I have grown a level of understanding that I cannot understand But I do understand that this whole feeling is nothing compared to the actual AP experience (reminds me of the entrance exams for the electrical engineering university - when I was preparing for it, it seemed like the toughest thing I have achieved/learned in my life, but as soon as I was accepted and the studies started, I have dismissed the entire entrance exam preparation as a ridiculous event).

I'd really love to be able at some point to be as helpful as many of the members here are in the astral plane as I sort of have that need to help already (in real life I'm usually doing it so naively that i never care about how that affects me in the process). I'm just not sure if I am mature yet enough for the task - it does feel like I'd need A LOT of personal development before I'll be able to do many great things I have read about.
Despite the "status" I hold in real life, as I mentioned above, I do not actually feel like that at all; I'm sort of afraid of confronting who I really am, afraid of seeing and realizing it. But I'm dedicated now to kickstart the journey and can't wait to learn (I loved that my whole life) and get better no matter how painful the process might be.
Before each attempt I set my goal as to meet my guide. I just hope I did not make a deal before this life on Earth to try to do things without the guides like I read someone here on the forum did

This was a bit longer introduction, not planned to be so, but thanks for reading and sorry! And thanks for sharing all your experiences and thoughts, they've been really helpful! Hope to see ya all one day over there!