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[TIP:]

It does exist my friend, and YOU can do it. Just believe, trust, expect... the faster you believe in it, the faster you'll see results.

No video, real or fake, is going to prove it to you.

TIP: Do not place your hands anywhere near the object. Really, it will just cause doubts later down the road if you do this. [ie. you make it spin, then start thinking "oh wait it was the heat of my hands maybe"]


Also, you have to keep at it every day... try not to burn out and get headaches, but give significant effort. Try to make it fun (I know, its hard to make staring at a psiwheel\object a "fun thing to do"). I also learned unfortunately, this is very true about tk: Use it or lose it.

I used to be able to do it, spin both ways, really fast, or slow, slow down and change direction almost instantly... even got my ex-roomie to do it (after he saw me I guess it was fairly easy), and we'd play a game where I spin one way, he spins the other, and we see who would win Tug-of-war basically.

This was well over a year ago, closer to 2 years... I have tried a few times recently and can't really move it... I got it to nudge but hey, I havent tried more than a couple times for a few minutes, or been spiritually inclined over this 'rest' period so I'm not surprised.


I truly believe anything and everything is possible, with enough focus + practice + belief... even flying.


Peace,
DiViNE


P.S. - Spoon bending is real too... I think you'll might get faster results with that. Just channel energy into a spoon (really, you have to focus and clear your mind for this whole duration) and have the INTENT of it melting\heating up\particles moving faster, then just BREAK YOUR ATTENTION hard to explain, and bend it into many wraps (if it feels like bending it normally, then it didnt quite work lol... it should feel far softer and you should loop it around at least a few times fairly easily.)

This funky lady shows you (like I said, ppl will say video is fake, I really dont know or care, I know it works from experience):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSfJjdnqfOo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-e_45BIbsg

hahaha, oh man, I have looked at it SEVERAL TIMES and every time I saw: ORGY BUS.

I figured the name had something to do with sex & love of many people, on a bus, hippie style o_0

Note taken

[Orgybus]

No worries, I understand it well.

I have had my struggles in life, and realized that changing people is futile. You may offer help, and try to guide them a bit, but nothing will come about unless they are willing -- allowing change.

And its their life journey, not yours, as well they may have different belief systems of what is "right" and "wrong"... and IMO thats perfect in its own way. I really dont believe in some black and white "right and wrong" concept.


I have been listening to Klaus' talks, read his Messenger book first, and now 1/2 way through the Drunken Leprechaun. He talks alot about FEELING the outcome, rather than visualizing EXACTLY how it would be. Giving the universe more leeway on finding something PERFECT to you, without setting too many limits. Great advice I'd say, though interestingly contrary to alot of what others teach: Visualize EXACTLY what you want. Though I see both as very valuable techniques.


But yeah Orgybus, very good point we should all remember, you can send love, and let it do it's thing... but the person has to allow it, accept it. And just give love with the intent it will be used for what is perfect for that person at that time, not necessarily what you feel is necessary of them (ie. forcing).


Cheers,
DiViNE

P.S. - Its fascinating that you 'coincidentally' pasted that link in my FTG thread. Why? Well I had a strong feeling for the past month or two that LOVE IS THE ANSWER. And I started sending love and [moreso] gratitude to people instinctively, before I knew any of this. And songs like "Beetles - All you need is love" and "Blessid Union of Souls - Believe" [I believe, Love is the Answer] started coming into my life and becoming some of my favourites haha.

And my bike was stolen a while before... and I was a bit upset at first, but I am positive so that quickly passed... and eventually I decided to send love & forgiveness to the person that stole it, and hope they are enjoying it... soon after I got a family member to donate their bike to me that they werent using. Interesting to say the least

Take a read through this...
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/July17specialday08jul07.shtml

Particularly the part below:
"DONT FIRE THE GRID
by Engtovo Bhodsvatan"

Now, on Jul 17th 2007 I did meditate at the time, but I made sure before I did to tell my subconcious that I am sending love for X-purpose (healing the planet, the people, etc...) and that I do not give permission for anyone to channel my energy, and only give permission "fire the grid" if its for the greater good of humanity and only for the purpose of love and light. (basically-- I figure the subconcious mind knows the TRUTH)

Anyways, this guy makes some good points... perhaps some of you might be interested in the read.

I am not going to sign up to Shelly Yates 2nd part, never intended to, I feel the best course of action for us as spiritual people is to:
- Meditate daily, keep our energy body clean and vitalized
- Share love with others, even Send Love ala Klaus Joehle
- Keep positive thoughts in mind and live our dreams

Thats about it A daily thing, integrated into our lives, not on some special date, but a little bit of love every day.


Peace,
DiViNE

The guru Osho says he tries to help the individual and in doing so he helps the collective, because the collective is made from individuals. If you benefit from sending love, do it everyday - time (helps, but is not a big deal). I recommend Living on Love by Klaus Johelle  http://lovebook2.tripod.com/books.shtml#Messenger  and listen to he talk about "the art of sending love" http://livingonlove.com/audio/2006-07-17-The_art_of_sending_love.mp3

People who had done any type on love meditation, regularly, has changed their lives...The thing with doing it everyday is that past negative energy and emotions will surface, this is a good thing - try to learn from it and let it pass, its a purging process...Just keep at it...

Wow, great link Orgybus, cheers! +1 rep

I just leeched all the audio from Klaus, and am going to enjoy reading something on LOVE. Finally, something worthwhile listening to

Unfortunately I am a caffeine drinker, so generally the crash will knock me out cold no matter how hard I try to "re-energize" myself... makes it more difficult to tell where the effects come from etc...

But yes indeed I do feel more energy in general, and some sort of really "positive vibe" all around when I go for my walks on the trail (its not a REAL nature walk, but best I can do around here in the city) Anyways, it feels more pleasant and peaceful than usual.

I agree with you Orgybus, imagine if we all took a little time like this every day. Man, even 10mins would make some sort of effect I'm sure. Trouble is getting everyone to actually make time AND remember\make it a habit, right

It is a good idea though, I really should start doing daily meditation, and why not throw in a few minutes of love and healing thoughts while I'm in that state eh!

I come to think of a quote along the lines of "Make peace within yourself, and external peace will follow". I think thats what we are also doing essentially, don't you think?

Its wonderful hearing that alot of you guys have felt something more positive come out of this, lets hope this trend continues long into our future!


Peace,
DiViNE

Well, that was a pleasant meditation I thought of happy things & healing for the planet and the people of this earth, love, light, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness, awakening etc...

Lets hope our intent was strong enough to make a difference!

As a bonus, I got "refreshed" and energized too, hehe

Peace,
DiViNE

1hr 25min says for me now [says the Toth clock]

I am more excited to see SOME sort of positive result from this, what I am hoping anyways

[EDIT] 10mins left

I work at night so it'll be "late in my workday" for me. -5 Eastern Time here also

http://www.thothweb.com/fire_the_grid.html
^^ countdown clock I found

I am a open minded person, but when it comes to some conspiracy theories, I am cautious because I wouldn't want to lose my mind in all of it.

I know EXACTLY what you mean! Back in late 2006 I spent months getting into the conspiracy stuff... it made me a little nuts, I had to cut myself off because I wanted so bad to start a revolution! :X ... after some time off, the info was better "processed" and I weeded out what was the most important, and calmed down.

Sometimes I kind of wish that I never got into it, and not have to know all the messed up BS that is going on behind the scenes, how the "shadow government"\bankers\elite treat their fellow bretheren is just sickening... but hey, at least it clears up so many things, makes life more transparent, and enlightens you to the reasons why the world is so messed up and why people live in "service-to-self", why they are working several jobs to make ends meet, etc...

well its scary that a person can devote her life to just manufacturing paranoia for herself

LOL, indeed it is

P.S. I think the site has trouble when it calculates the timezones, cause it says that my time is 1:11PM wich is GMT+2 and my timezone is GMT+1 so maybe its better to calculate it for yourself

Yeah, IIRC you posted in the other thread before the site lost a bunch of data. I replied too

Basically what I said was "Yeah, it could be various reasons, maybe Daylight Savings Time error, or misreading Timezone info via your Browser" and "Just trust yourself You know better than any computer program!"


Peace,
DiViNE

[@ DNA and Intent:]

Here is some pretty good information about the Earth's grid system by Kryon who is a nonphysical spiritual entity channelled by Lee Carroll:

The entire channelling in case anyone is interested.

Thanks for that m8, interesting read +1 karma

I never know what to think about channelings, and dont "fully trust" that kind of info, but it was enjoyable to read nonetheless.

@ DNA and Intent:
I am a firm believer that, just as our minds can manipulate reality, we can do it even MORE POWERFULLY within our own bodies, which our mind affects with even the most subtle of thoughts. And, I also believe that you can reprogram your own DNA, and that it is just a "base blueprint" to keep things running smoothly.

As you can imagine, this causes quite a bad reaction from people who are of the modern school of thought that DNA is unchangeable and we just have to accept what we were "genetically programmed" to be, and have no control of the matter.

I hate hearing excuses from these people "its genetics", "genetics dude, can't do anything about it"... says you, not I!

Anyways, it was interesting to hear similar beliefs from this Kryon entity.


@ Reptilians, and the FTG Event
Shortly after I started this thread, I was already already coming to my senses and it became clearer and clearer that this Peggy Kane person is pretty whacked in the head, or at least trying to find things that she WANTS to find. Either way, I thought "man, this is a clear choice... positive intent, love and healing, soothing music ... vs ... propagating fear, reverse speech, reptilians...." I'm sure you can see what I mean, hehe.


Thanks for the replies,
DiViNE

[Peggy Kane]

Uhhh... I felt I had to update this, as more information is coming around. Currently there is a debate whether this "Fire the Grid" event is good or bad... go figure

But it is my firm belief that this information should be looked over and contemplated on nonetheless.

First, the website of some woman named Peggy Kane who says this Grid is our "prison", that the *ahem* reptillians (or lets say shadow government, which DOES exist... the reptillian thing is questionable, but possible) are keeping us in. And that 2012 and Planet X will rip apart this magnetic grid and set us free.

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/07/08/don’t-fire-the-grid-it-is-our-prison/

Ok, so that is an interesting perspective... I have a hard time believing that focused intent on "love and healing" on a mass scale is going to strengthen negative energies... it could be more disinformation by the powerful elite attempting to stop a positive event such as this? What do you think?

And here is discussion on one mini-forum...
http://earthboppin.net/cgi-bin/talkrec.cgi?submit=lt&baseurl=http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/theend&msg_num=26792

W-T-F Is all I can say... Thoughts:
1. The reversal thing seems a bit sketchy, though I have never come across it before.
2. This seems to be propagating FEAR... while the event propagates LOVE
3. Shelley Yates seems to be thinking of a 'one world government', which to me personally is somewhat frighetning, seems to go with the whole power elite\new world order issue... but who knows, maybe it could work if we all became awakened beings of love and light.


Well, thats about all the thoughts I have for the moment.

Please, feedback
DiViNE

P.S. - Consult original thread for info about the event http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/fire_the_grid_july_17th_1111am_gmt_world_meditation-t26453.0.html

P.P.S. - If mods & members feel the need, it could be moved to 2012...

[props]

Ah, that explains it

I give ya props for keeping the forums running, being a "computer geek" myself, I know the aspects of server adminstration and things most people never even know is going on to keep their beloved sites up and running.

A few posts are nothing to cry about right You do what you can!

I'm sure everyone here appreciates what you do and are greatful, even if they don't conciously know it


Cheers,
DiViNE

Awesome, good to hear guys

Just FYI:
There were meditations between July 6-8th (Some "Planetary Creatrix" with Tom Kenyon and the Hathors), and also one on 7/7/7 (Can't recall the name ATM) -- not to mention the "World Earth Concerts" that went on this day also.

Do you feel a difference in the world?

I for one, am keeping positive, and feel more happier, but that may very well be self-created and not a direct result of any of these things

Though I'm no special "spiritually sensetive" person that can talk to nature, I do "seem to feel" a more positive vibe from nature and the sky in general lately. Just speculation though, who knows

Also, I have noticed a great deal of literature from around saying that the month of July 2007 is a very special month for us, where our powers of manifestation are vastly amplified, hence us being more powerful to create the world we truly wish to live in. Something to keep in mind

Peace,
DiViNE

P.S. - There were a couple other replys to this post, 2 other members and one reply by me, but the forum seemed to go through a "planetary reset" itself LOL and they disappeared... they were simply about time zones and such though.

[It can't hurt to send the planet some lovin' at this time, what do you think?]

Hey everyone, I did a search and did not find anything with "fire the grid" in it, so I'm surprised nobody has posted about this before.

I came across it just earlier today, but it seems to have been around for a while.

--- Quick Summary about the woman... [not that important] ---
Basically, this woman Shelley Yates, was in a freak car accident, died, was talked to by beings, came back to life... they taught her how to save her son [read more about it], which applies as a lesson of what MANY people can do for the earth... and she has been in regular contact with these beings, in an effort to heal our planet\wake people.
--- END SUMMARY ---

Ok, so here comes the real important part...

There is a world meditation set up for July 17th, at 11:11AM Greenwich Mean Time, where all participants from across the globe send their healing energies into our planet, Mother Earth's "grid system", with the intent to heal\reset the planet as well as connect our souls across the planet with love & light, as One, on a global scale.

However you view this woman's story, claims, or whatever else... really, it doesn't matter. The idea of it is that anyone, whether religious, atheist, or even the "average joe" that likes beer and football games... each one of us counts, and even if all you do at this time is send some loving thoughts\intent to the planet, it's all good. Can be meditation, prayer, or just a deep sense of enjoyment via something you love to do.

It can't hurt to send the planet some lovin' at this time, what do you think? I'm going to participate, figure why not.

The website: http://www.firethegrid.org/

Here are some youtube videos of the series (see their "related" for the entire 8 part series):
Shelley Yates - Fire The Grid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqUAluDvuU4


Some interesting points I came across while researching this:
- Someone on another forum was skeptical, and looked into it (apparently), and found that there were records of the accident (so it indeed happened, at least to some degree)

- Someone on another unrelated forum, showed a link to an older post where they were getting the number "20070717" over and over during meditation, and didnt know what it meant... then they came across this like a year later... interesting at least.

- There is plenty of evidence that mind affects matter... from Masaru Emoto's research into intent + water, to all sorts of paranormal events such as telekinesis, as well as recent research I found on intention experiments to make plants "radiate light" as much as possible + photon camera or something == astonishing results of incredible increase of light emission off plants.
--> Meaning that this SHOULD have a profound effect on our planet and humanity as a whole, if enough of us do it.

- Apparently there is quite a following to this, so already alot of people in for the ride Hope so! Its about time for some healing!

- The music (available for download on her site) is WONDERFUL! I really found it a pleasure to listen to. I would buy the album if I had $20 to spare


Might have forgot something... but hey, gimme a shout in this thread if you're in, and please if you have something to add or any opinions whatsoever (be it positive or negative), don't hesitate to comment! [with one exception, if your comment is to be "that story is a load of BS", we really dont need that in this thread... start a new thread if you like, but I hope to keep it positive... UNLESS you have some facts\evidence you'd like to present, of course! ]


Well, maybe I am just overly optimistic, but I believe this could be a little spark to ignite the fire thats long been extinguished, and that a change in this world really is possible, and starts with each one of us.


Loving wishes to all,
DiViNE

[edit]
NEW :: The Debate Thread
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/fire_the_grid_new_information_debate-t26501.0.html

[When you can't breathe, nothing else matters]

Thanks for that, just did the whole series x 32 "sniffs".

I would think using these exercises during an attack, in public, would be a bit odd... but what can I say, When you can't breathe, nothing else matters, right?

Will try this for a month and see what progress I notice.

Also, a supplementary routine that might be beneficial as well, to "double up the strength" of your lungs all at once, is the "buteyko method".

Cheers,
DiViNE

Haha, fun stuff, been ages since I've used Photoshop

Here you are, neo-nazi style, with a remarkably round forehead

[exactly]

Final Fantasy is probably the best RPG series ever made!

Back when I was a younger lad in Grade 7/8,  I would skip school with my buddy and sit at home in the basement in the dark all day and play Final Fantasy 8 (for PSX) and later FF9 as well.

I must say, when you get 'sucked in' and immersed in such games its like you are IN THE GAME and the world around you doesnt matter at all. This is like a trance state, and oh man do I ever love it. Kinda lets you escape the world for a while and relax in the realm of fantasy. Everything around you (especially if you turn all the lights off and only the TV screen is illuminated) just disappears and you are really part of the Fantasy world.

I do not play anything anymore, as I am usually too deeply focused in whats going on with the world and trying to survive in general... I'd love to, but if I decided to do those all-day Final Fantasy gaming sprees, I'd be homeless quite quick and would just be wasting my valuable time (well, at least my imagination would be happy )

But yeah BadCookie, I know exactly what you are talking about.


DiViNE

Hmmm... I wonder how this knowledge can be applied when creating Presets for Brainwave Generator. Maybe they could be added in somewhere, specially synchronized, to enhance the brain's "transitioning" from one state to another?

Then again, all speculation Interesting nonetheless, thanks.


DiViNE

[I have a totally different version of this story (about Aliens) that I have gathered. Here are some points:]

I have a totally different version of this story (about Aliens) that I have gathered. Here are some points:
-> Grey's are apparently part of the Star Nations (A Cosmic Alliance of all that is GOOD). They are actually our 'fathers', and they consider us their children. The story goes that we were indeed genetically modified primeapes, as messed up as that may sound... and they do abduct us and 'upgrade' our genetics, which is why our new generation of children are apparently now 'Star Kids' with amazing metaphysical abilities.

-> The above is widely confirmed by Abductees who have gone under hypnosis and 'regressed'\remembered their memories. Apparently the bad encounters are orchestrated by the secret Gov't (CIA-types, black projects), particularly to instill fear into people and make them HATE extra terrestrial beings.

As for Reptillians, from what I have read about them they are a$$holes, straight up. I have read documents of 'good reptillians' such as the Lacerta files, but they always come across as being sneaky and basically against the human race. Thats just my perspective though. Whether they do or do not exist, I dont know for sure Apparently there is word that there is a Reptillian race part of the Star Nations (good people).



Finally, all the above, until we actually MAKE CONTACT and document these things as fact, will be speculation. I really hope there is a Star Nations and that the Greys are indeed friendly beings. As for UFO\Extra Terrestrials in general existing... well I'm quite sure personally from all the evidence I've analyzed that they do indeed exist. If anyone has not yet come across this, go to G00gle Vids or YouTube and search for 'Disclosure Project'.


Peace,
DiViNE

Wasn't sure where to post this so it went into General Chat.

Just stumbled upon this site, not sure if any of you have seen it around before. Call me nuts, but I'm beginning to believe all of this Star Nations and Extra Terrestrial things... anyways, these messages presented there seem to hold good truths and really make sense, whether they were channeled from the stars or just invented by a clever person:

http://www.star-knowledge.net/starmessages.htm


Hope to see some comments

Peace,
DiViNE

[I Am]

Great link you posted, I Am

Reading a bit of the FAQ as we speak, sounds like good stuff. [Bookmarked]

And I agree that we should get rid of the conditioning that "darkness is bad". Seems more to me like darkness is part of the balance... and I feel that the main reason we fear darkness, is fear of the UNKNOWN (apart from religious and social conditioning of course).

I myself go out late at night alone on the trail (amongst trees and deep darkness) and learn to feel at ease with the darkness and surroundings. Mind you its not all that easy, at least not for me personally On the trail when I am focused on being relaxed and calm, its alright... but at home sometimes, I tend to be jumpy if things pop out of nowhere, like instinctual-reaction... trying to get rid of that erm I mean AM getting rid of that (Do or do not, there is no try.)

Peace,
DiViNE

[we influence water]

Ahhh, the wonderful work of Dr. Emoto. Really, the message that we influence water should be spread across the world. This is not science fiction, but scientific fact derived from scientific research. Should instantly silence anyone who tries to throw the "fairy tales" card demanding science.

Must admit, the video itself is not all that stunning, independently developed so that is no surprise, however the message in it is of great value and the videomaker gets my respect for developing it.


Spread the word to those that you know, that constantly ignore any 'out there' or spiritual concepts. Explain to them the FACTS, scientific study, that we do affect water with our thoughts. From there it takes no genius to put 2 and 2 together, what this means given the fact that we are roughly 2/3 water...


Peace,
DiViNE


P.S. - Highly recommend "What the Bleep Do We Know" for an interesting watch, for the few of you that may not yet have viewed it Check out youtube.com or video.google.com and do a search

Keep practicing, and in time you will succeed no doubt

You don't even have to necessarily buy the tickets for now (save some money). Just write your #'s down, and check them. There are so many lotteries you could do this for, but i'd guess focusing on just ONE would help you zone-in to that energy and get the correct numbers for THAT one.

I think it would also be a good idea to focus on the FEELING you get when you see those numbers, and learn what the feeling of 'correct' and 'incorrect' numbers are. Also, you could try asking your subconcious mind\higher faculties to associate correct numbers with a color for example... so if you see a number with a feeling of GREEN for example, you know its a correct number.

Basically just experiment. Remember, we are all pioneers in this field, researchers and experimenters. So try crazy things, and remember that everything is possible!


Peace,
DiViNE

This post is ownage, i will look into the videos you have posted when i have time. All i know is that something in this reality is not right, something deep down inside of me seeks truth. You and i have something in common we want truth, we can be and do so much more...

Have you seen the film What the Bleep do we know? by the way I was born November 16 1984

I agree, and I believe there are vast amounts of people just like you and me across the planet, who all 'sense' or feel that something just isnt right, and some sort of important occurence is on its way. There is indeed something at the core of our beings that is desperately looking for the TRUTH, could be because of the changing universe...

And yes, I have watched What the Bleep Do We Know a couple times a while back. Good stuff I dont recall for sure, but I think it featured Dr. Emoto who did the studies on freezing-water after labels or prayers were applied to it. Resulting in fascinating images of the crystalized structure depending on what what words\thoughts were 'applied' to it. Basically proving straight up that our thoughts do indeed affect our reality directly.


Peace,
DiViNE