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Aren't you going to use theta on the way up?

I was thinking about it but decided it may not be for the best due to the way I will be suggesting to use the audio. Waking up after 5 - 6 hours of sleep your usually either in stages 1 2 or 5. If your in 1 or 2 your already in theta. If you wake up in stage 5 you would be going back on the progress of sustaining REM as you pretty much instantly drop to delta when woken up from REM. I'm trying to get the most effective sequence for someone waking up after sleep/rest. 

yeah I understand. It probably will work on ipods/phones too if the carrier is at 200hz. 

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After doing some research on isochronic, binaural beats and some other stuff such as brain waves etc I have decided to create a piece of audio fully dedicated to helping with astral projection. I usually do sound acoustics and general music production so it seems right that i should try and make something.

Ok my main plan is to use a sequence of sounds that change from delta, alpha and beta in order to help speed up sleep cycles, power into REM and then straight to cognitive thought processing. The clip will be 90mins long as I have estimated this to be the quickest time I can change brain waves through music effectively. It will have a nice happy spiritual calm vibe at first to help you sleep. Next it will slowly turn into monophonic/staccato Isochronic tones at Alpha oscillation. This will last for sometime and then sweep into Beta oscillations. My theory is that you will be paralyzed from REM but awakened consciously via beta waves. I'm using Isochronic as it uses oscillation intervals to mimic low frequency pulses. This means I will not need to produce pitches that are not audible on commercial speaker/headphones so anyone will be able to use the sound if they wish.

Here is a very rubbish inaccurate algebraic formula that I'm hoping will make some sort of sense

D = Delta waves
A= Alpha waves
B = Beta waves
X = time it takes brain to adjust to frequency
Y = amount of minutes need to round the sum to 40mins
Z = equal amount taken from D, A and B to accumulate a total of 90mins maximum

(DX+2mins)(AX+Y)(BX+Y+30mins)-Z

I hope my crude maths made you chuckle!

To top it all off the pitch/tone of the pulsating sound will be 194.18hz which is the root chakra frequency. When I finish the track I will post a free download link to this thread. For it to work you will have to sleep for 6 hours, wake up press play and get back into bed and dont think about trying to astral just relax and go back to sleep. No need for any effort until you feel that feeling you get just before a successful projection. In the meantime any suggestions and questions will be great!

much love,

Gnome
     

Thought I'd share what happened to me last night. My friend gave me a binaural beats recording a few days ago and last night I thought I'd try it out to see what would happen. Ive never had any OOBE AP before (don't think I did last night either) but here goes. All the following happend. My hands started tingling then I couldn't feel my arms. The back of my head felt heavy like as if I would not be able to lift even if I wanted to. My breathing was very shallow and heart beat very laboured and I had an 'ache' n the middle of my chest. My feet were doing what I would call an Irish jig!! Next my body felt like somebody was shaking it very quickly and I had a feeling of 'swirling'. Then as I concentrated on the blackness behind my eyes I felt myself moving rapidly down a black 'tunnel' but not a tunnel just the sensation of going faster and faster and faster. Then the recording stopped and so did all the feelings. I was so excited I txt my friend at 12.30am (GMT) to tell him. Cannot wait to try it again. Any comments welcomed but just thought Id tell my story

Take care x

I'm not exactly an expert at AP myself yet hehe... but I would say you may of been entering an AP. I have had several similar experiences (without beats). Just after what you described, I usually try to look at my hands in the 'black tunnel' and end up in the superman position. After about 2mins (or feels that long) I see brilliant purple gloopy/liquid like lines either side of me. When I see these lines all my fear/feeling of loosing grip or reality (lol) goes away and i get a big happy rush. unfortunately the happy feeling usually wakes me up because I become so overwhelmed. I also have all the usual vibration sensations etc. If it happens again try to look at your hands. Mine looked like they were laminated (shiny) haha. Good luck!

P.S to see a picture I created when i first experienced the crazy purple lines go to:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/pictures_black_stars_purple_sludgy_stuff_flying_can_see_my_hands-t35862.0.html;msg296688#msg296688
     

Well, honestly... there are as many different kinds/forms of meditation as there are grains of sand on a beach. 

Haha true!

I don't know if this will help anyone as I'm not sure how these beats work so forgive me if I am wrong on the subject.

I was hearing talks of these sounds hitting frequencies low as 7hz to work. Industry Standard active monitors for producing music usually only go down to around 40hz lowest. Commercial speakers can state that they go that low but there is something called 'Flat frequency response'. Professional equipment will label frequency range and response e.g. 40hz - 20,000hz +-2db. The +- means that when it goes down to the lower in say 40hz the volume will decrease by 2 decibels. When the sound enters the higher frequency range the db will increase by 2db's roughly. +- 2 db is a very good response. Commercial equipment will have much worse response rendering the amplitude of say, 40hz near to nothing. Amplitude is important to enable the feel of low frequencies (sound uses air pressure) as humans can only hear from 20 - 20,000hz as babies. This rapidly decreases with age. As a side note, Headphones usually have worse response and you do not get to feel the non audible frequencies.

It is very unlikely the average music listener will have the equipment to listen/feel Binaural beats properly if what I am assuming makes binaural beats effective is correct. The only way I could see these beats working is if I have got the idea of frequency wrong and the binaural frequency refers to the the level of pulse between sounds which in the music industry should be referred to as LFO (Low frequency oscillation). Producers use frequency to measure oscillation as well as the pitch of a sound.

Don't get me wrong, I like binaural beats. I listen to them myself as i like a monogamous sound to take away any disturbing background sounds whilst meditating (whether they work or not  ) but I have expensive industry standard active monitors due to my work. I suggest anyone taking these beats seriously, to invest in some nice headphones that have a frequency range/response of 5hz - 20000hz +-2db (higher the db the worse).

Happy meditating and projecting!

Gnome 

In my experience... "increasing your vibrations/frequency" is in direct correlation to focusing your mind and keeping it focused for extended periods of time... aka... MEDITATION.

If you want to "increase your frequency" while non-physical, you simply have to focus your mind and retain that focus.

OK thanks for the advice! Sorry, I may have not been very clear in my first post. I was kinda searching for different meditation techniques as there seems to be an overwhelming amount on the internet. Some for relaxation, sleep, enlightenment etc. Just wanted to see if anyone had any specific techniques they would like to share with me plus any other techniques outside of meditation that may help raise vibrations/frequency.

Once again thanks for everyone's advice! At the moment I am looking into 'chakra' and meditation techniques that accompany it.

Much love,

Gnome

Hi all just thought id share my experience. A few nights ago just lying in bed and was aware of my astral body so i moved my astral body out of my physical by just trying to get out of bed, as i normally would. What happened next was that i just fell on the floor with a very mild bump. I then stood up and walked a few paces. I could see my bedroom ok but not as clear as in waking life, so at this point i said "clarity now" about three times but my vision didn't really get any better.

I wanted to say energy now but found it very hard to talk and couldn't quite remember that i wanted to say that, till afterwards. I thought id look at my hands and body and when i did i was surprised to see that my hands and body were glowing. The shape of my hands arms and body was that of well the only way i can explain it is the suit that David Byrne (talking heads) wore in one of his concerts. I glowed like i was wearing a big light made suit, weird.

My vision started to fade and then went but i was aware that i was in my bedroom still and that i was facing the outside window wall, so i decided to move forward and go into the back garden.

The next thing im dropping to the ground and its daylight in my garden. I want to fly so i make a flapping movement with my hands, i raise up so im looking into my bedroom window from outside.

Thats it, hope you found it worth the read. Just wish i didn't have to wait weeks or even months to have these experiences, even though i try most nights.

Are you sure you didn't just fall out of bed and think you were astral projecting? Lol people in the garden like, 'Whats that crazy guy doing?' haha I'm only kidding. The falling on the floor with a 'bump' made me chuckle because when I project, I feel real floaty almost hard for me to stay in human form and walk. Kinda like a half filled helium balloon. Anyways, it sounded like a good astral experience keep it up and happy travels!

hmm.. maybe he/she/it (lol) was my first entity.. Kinda felt more like OBE than astral. P.S. sorry for late post been a busy bee! new pictures coming soon!  . Thanks for commenting everyone!

OK this is a really late post lol. I have been busy for a while with stuff. I have found quite a good few sources now and thanks for posting guys!. I'm going to check out this DNA stuff too I haven't heard of this before thanks! 

Hi! Ive been looking to start meditating. I know its a good thing to do if you are attempting or are APing. Problem with me is I did not learn to AP it just happens so I'm kind of backwards on the whole thing. Ive done some internet searching for different meditation techniques to higher vibrations/frequency in order to aid a more satisfying AP. I found some nice stuff on centering and Grounding but not really much on actual post meditation. Maybe I'm just rubbish at searching for stuff hehe. Anyways it would be cool if a few people could post what they do to higher there vibrations/frequencies. I know about moon and sun bathing but if anyone could share there meditation techniques (if there not bound by oath via guru's etc) that would be awesome!

Much love

Gnome

I'm also new to AP and get the same 'fear factor'. It seems that nearly everyone goes through this who learns. I take comfort in that and feel as if I am starting to get over it. now I usually get really scared then a few seconds later remember that I'm suppose to be combating this and re adjust myself sorta consciously before I whiz back into my body. Now that I'm starting to get over the fear, its more like someone jumping round the corner and shouting BOO! You jump and sometimes your hearts still racing but you know that your not in any real danger. I would try to just keep thinking your making this happen and can stop if you want. Try to remember that you want to explore and want to experience.    

P.S don't get rattled up researching about bad experiences or dangers of astral it just propels the problem. Your more safe the happier/loving you are well.. in my short amount of experience that seems to be the case for me. 

 

I suggest you ask him what the goal in the exercise is (unless he has already told you). I see a lot of spiritual people taking on too much at a time. If your goal is to astral project or have OBE's then learn everything you can about that. I think its better to learn and practice one spiritual thing at a time, don't jumble up your mind! hehe 

Wow that's cool! If there are 'astral police' or not it still worked for you so I might give it a try. It doesnt really matter if its a figure of imagination as long as it keeps you safe! Also I find it kinda funny that its easier to believe in angels, demons, monsters etc than a police force phaaa! true though innit hehe

I herd somewhere (cant remember where) that there are 'schools' in the astral world that some refer to as libraries. People have projected to it and sat down to read books and learn more about the astral world, spirits and other stuff. I would take this with a pinch of salt though cuz i'm quite new to this and get stuck in portals atm lol. I would try to explore the buildings or pick up a book to see what its all about

I'm sort of the same. Only started happening of recent though. Of recent I skipped the whole OBE (leaving physical body when in my bed) and sorta went straight into a black portal thing (Picture can be found in the top thread on homepage under my post starting with 'pictures!'). I'm kinda new to the experience but I suggest when you come out of your body and are relaxed to try thinking about black or imagine closing your eyes. Then try to move towards the black. This is what I'm gunna start trying. If i find a way that lets me go to a portal without lingering in my room I will re post tomoz

Good Luck,

Gnome 

Cheers for the warm welcome everyone! and grey, thanks for the heads up! If you want I have made a picture to explain my new experiences. Have a look in the OBE experiences part of the forum (I was not sure if i was APing or not as its similar to OBE). I will create or draw pictures for all my experiences seems there isn't many around. Hopefully it will be more entertaining for new comers to the art like me and to others cheers guys!.

I have color coded my experience. RED = OBE/AP  BLUE = just dreaming or not sure

Hi I'm new to the forum and to AP and OBE. I'm another person who has stuff happen to them within sleep rather than learning to AP or OBE. Ive researched a little so I know a little about lots of it. If you would like some more background info on me for some reason you can check it out in the new members part of the forum

Basically I have experienced OBE loads of times. I have to concentrate to sleep rather than concentrate to OBE. I'm not sure if I have got close to astral planes tho because I would of thought it would be an experience you would just know, a bit like the difference between dreaming and OBE. You KNOW when you are out of your physical body but still conscious.

Last night I felt the usual, woh! whats happening feeling as you go from sleeping or trying to sleep to vibrating, aware and generally feel like your entering or exiting something. I sorta just thought o crap I'm gonna be flying round my room again but then nothing happened I just saw black like the back of my eyelids when asleep in the dark.

Then I felt myself moving forwards towards the black (not physically). I saw some purple almost, sludgy liquid down each side (left and right) of my sight. After that I nearly got scared but thought to myself I may be astral projecting lets just carry on. I started to look at my hands. It was like I was in the superman position flying and when I looked at my hands they looked shiny a bit like they had been vacuum sealed in that annoying plastic on children's toys. As I carried on through the blackness like an airplane following a purple landing strip, stars appeared in the black. eventually the purple disappeared and then the stars.

I woke up like I had crash landed into my room snapping my bed in half. At this point, I don't think I was OBEing or APing as it felt more like a lucid dream not a conscious state. In the dream I ran up to tell my lodger and m8 upstairs my experience and to look at my broken bed. I got half way up the stairs and I could hear my lodgers music playing so I thought great hes still awake so I can go in and talk. He was in there with some of our childhood friends and one guy I couldn't recognize. Explained to them my trip. They all walked downstairs apart from that one guy. He went to the bathroom opposite. I got half way down the stairs and he shouted out, 'm8 come up hear someones broke the toilet. So I went back up turned the corner and he morphed into this weird creature. I excrement myself and woke up. Well I thought I woke up. Went upstairs to tell my lodger again. Could hear the same music and thought o dear I'm not awake. Was petrified that I would walk into my lodgers room and see the same people in there because I would then know I was dreaming the same dream. They were there so I screamed and actually woke up. Thought about it for a bit then started laughing haha. What a trip!

If anyone could shed some light on my experience that would be cool. Ive loaded up pictures and will do so on all my experiences because there doesn't seem to be enough pictures about OBE and AP and it will give other new comers something interesting to see.



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P.S I did the best I could to represent what I experienced but as you all probably know AP/OBE is kinda like more feeling with strange spacial awareness and time etc 

Just thought I would post about myself before I get stuck right in to the forum 

I'm Justin or Gnome (my alias) as others call me as I produce a DJ Dubstep (dance music). I'm 21 years of age and generally don't see myself as very spiritual more logical but maybe that's why I have been experiencing some strange things of recent. Maybe I'm very spiritual and have just been ignoring it, I'm not sure. First of all sorry for any bad grammar I use. I'm a little retarded when it comes to stuff like that. Here goes my rant 

My dad is very spiritual, not so much now as he is 60 years of age but he used to be into some sort of spiritualist program sort of like meditation school. Still to this day I don't know much about it as he was took an oath not to share techniques etc with his master/guru or whatever he would have been classed as. He told me a little about Astral Projection but not much at all just that he used to do it then 1 day looked behind a picture in his old flat and behind it was the words, 'Do not do this'.

I use to smoke weed/pot around 1 year and a half ago but had to quit because it started causing panic attacks, anxiety etc I didn't quit by choice my body sort of rejected it after 4 years of smoking it happily. Ever since, I have found it hard to get to sleep and usually have weird dreams (NOT OBE or AP). Just strange dreams. I spend all my sleep time in REM (dreaming) and feel like I haven't properly slept since my days of smoking weed.

Now because this was annoying me I started researching into it leading me in many strange places but it was not till I first had a real OBE that i started finding out about astral projection. So far I have had sleep paralysis, OBE where I am just remote viewing in my bedroom outside my body of course and some strange experience where Ive gone through a black portal type thing with stars everywhere with streams of purple gloopy/liquid looking stuff my hands are in the superman position like I'm flying. I can see my hands but there melting sort of. I also feel like I'm traveling really fast and my whole body is vibrating like when You disconnect from your physical whilst going through OBE. I will elaborate on this in a different section. I know its not dreaming because I know dreaming well. I can tell the differences. I am relatively new to all this and haven't tried to learn Astral Projection, I don't meditate I just sort of Just Astral rape myself every-night somehow lol.

I look forward to meeting members, hearing others experiences and learning to either embrace this Astral Projection or stop it either way I'm not bothered as long as I am actually in control of whats happening to me. Thanks for reading