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#1
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / YOGA!
March 22, 2005, 09:54:26
Hi,
Just buy the book if you can.

Like Astral Dynamics, it is very thick, very good, very inspirational and very cheap ;-)

When I first had it, I read a few pages before going to bed each night. It was wonderful.

One day a few years later I, myself went to India and verified with my own eyes some of the miracles described in the book.

Cheers,
Adept of Light

Quote from: TomSomeone put "Autobiography of a Yogi" online:
http://www.ananda.org/inspiration/books/ay/preface.html

There are other books with the complete text from the same source:
http://www.ananda.org/inspiration/books/index.html
#2
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / YOGA!
March 19, 2005, 10:47:13
Hello,
The "blue pearl" is a symbolic representation of the pituatary gland found precisely in the centre of the head and to which the esoteric teachings state is the "seat of consciousness". It is the physical location where the non-physical mental chord (or diamond lane) connects the physical human to his more subtle mental body. By doing meditations and centering your awareness in this center part of the head, it becomes possible to 'raise' your awareness (up the channel), and discover your true divine self (where you came from).

Picture of the gland: http://ca.geocities.com/chris_anthistle/graphics/head.gif

In Hinduism, masters such as Krishna have their bodies portrayed in pictures with blue skin. This is to mean that the entire man is pure consciousness and is thus an Enlightened Master.

Picture of Krishna:
http://www.spiritualtimesindia.com/bhagwat-gita/gifs/krishna-arjuna-3.jpg

Cheers,
Adept of Light

PS. Can you see the diamond lane on the head of my Avatar ? ;-) hehe


Quote from: pod_3http://www.thehomefoundation.com/Kriya.htm
QuoteTo make the journey East, where the Star shines, deep within the blue pearl... where the master resides... there is a highway with many lanes...
It is a "diamond" lane of exquisitely refined, inner action

Do you know what this is?
http://www.thehomefoundation.com/thepathtogod-black.JPG
#3
Welcome to Spiritual Evolution! / Re: YOGA!
March 19, 2005, 10:35:41
Hi,

Interesting post. I would like to comment on the Gayatri Mantra. This Mantra is supposed to be the most important and most powerful out of all the Vedic texts (which are quite large and especially cryptic for a Westerner to understand since they are written in Sanskrit and translations to English lose vasts amount of meaning).

A Mantra isn't meant to be said once, the word mantra itself is associated with the concept of repetition and often doing so with a 'mala' (rosary like device with 108 balls - repeat the mantra once, then advance one ball on the mala).

That said, ultimately it is possible to speak the Mantra once and its powerful effects take place instantly.  The comments you make about 'speaking it perfectly' and how different people claim different ways to pronounce it perfectly actually misses the point. THe problem is in the concept of "speaking it perfectly".

The definition of this is vastly misunderstood! The 'speaking' is not meant to mean only the voice-like-sound that comes out of one's mouth. Like Kabbalistic speech, the verb should more correctly be called 'vibrating'. And by that, I still do not mean just the sound portion of it.  In order to 'say' the mantra perfectly, one's mind must be perfectly focused and clear, perfect intent must exist for each word, perfect energetic exercion must also exist, channel connection to the guruparampara must also be present, and yes lastly, correct pronounciation based on the original Sanskrit text should be performed and the Sanskirt language unlike English or French or most other languages does not allow for variations in pronounciation due to the construct of the language, you either pronounce it properly or you do not, there is no "tomatoes" (British Accent) and "tomatoes" (North American Accent).

What is gained from the correct pronounciation is immediate linking to a Vedic lineage... however significant effects can still be attained by repeating the mantra a zillion times, with correct and pure intent, because ultimately that is what really matters.

Anyway, the point being, there is a lot more to it than most people understand.

Cheers,
Adept of Light

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I looked back at that very special dream and thought that it may have been generated by having did the Gayatri Mantra discipline for a year.  Or it may have come from a number of things.

But many people swear on the Gayatri Mantra.  Though I do think that perhaps the entire Indian Subcontinent is in on a huge conspiratorial Joke -- they all insist that the Gayatri will have no effect if it is not said quite perfectly, and then, whenever you find a tape which teaches the 'perfect' pronounciation, is is different from all the rest.  You wonder, then, how they could possibly be serious about pronounciation when it seems that nobody has ever bothered to say it the same way twice in a row.  So I have concluded that as long as one mumbles and slurs the Gayatri in some fashion or another, it is wonderfully effective.   Do a search of Gayatri Mantra and you will find plenty of sites.
#4
Welcome to Magic! / Re: I have just controlled fire!
February 15, 2005, 04:37:46
Parabens Nexmofo!

Agora so falta dominar o elemento e apos esse mais 3 ;-)

What you have accomplished here is nothing to be amazed at, because it is in fact a natural occurrence. It is not pyrokenisis which is a Western term associated with the ability to control fire, but more specifically initiate fires... you did not initiate it, so much as you controlled it. And it is not telekenisis (another Western term) which is associated with the movement of matter without touching it. Fire has nearly no atomic structure, it is only the rapid acceleration of its fuel source and is thus considered in science a catalyst... it has no significant weight or steady mass because its molecular structure is complete entropy, and therefore it is not telekenisis as somebody suggested. It is however photonic in structure and does give off light and heat.

Regardless, I am writing to you to give you some further material for study in case you wish to mature intellectually about the feat you have accomplished to then understand its real significance and use and more importantly, how can you progress even *much* further?

I will provide you with two sources of study which are very concrete. One is a Western source, and the second an Eastern source... but once studied, you will see their similarities... only the practical approach to them varies, but the end results are pretty much the same... at least to the naked eye.

1) There is a very powerful Western System of spirituality (whose roots are actually in some small part Eastern), called Hermetics, but specifically "Bardonian" Hermetics, in which the "magician" (aka: Spiritual aspirant) treks the path without a Guru, and as such in order to establish conviction that he is progressing he is given step by step instructions on how to evolve to the maximum of his potential as a human being. This is done by mastering certain practices, many of which lead to the development of occult powers such as the one you have.  The title of the book is "Initiation into Hermetics". Have a read through the Amazon comments on this book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1885928122/qid=1108459413/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/102-8148975-9607349

2) If you prefer a more Eastern approach to the mastering of the "elements" (fire being just one of them), then perhaps this site might spark within you some interest. A present living Eastern Enlightened Master whom by the way is only 31 years old at this time and has the ability to perform miracles like Christ (e.g. ressurection, materializations of objects, instantaneous healings, etc), teaches that the spiritual aspirant may begin initiation into the mysteries only when he has learned to control the 5 elements (which are the usual 4 + sky or akasha). He teaches a system of controlling the 5 elements by providing the student with secret formulas in the form of mantras, which once repeated X number of times with a certain intent over a period of X days, links the student to higher forces and opens channels within him where from certain powers may descend and be mastered.  This is not mere new age stuff or philosophical mumbo jumbo, this guy is really for real! I have met him in person and friends of mine have witnessed him performing miracles in front of their eyes that without question leave zero room for doubts. He even visits the US and UK once or so per year.

http://www.kaleshwar.org/enu/teachings_fiveelements.htm

Lastly I just wish to comment that if indeed you have acquired some amusing ability, recognize that so long as this remains amazing to you, you will not be able to master it. Only when you have mastered it, will you no longer be truly amazed by it because it will have become completely natural to you... however; to the outside world, it is considered anything but natural, so be *VERY* careful about whom you go about showing this off to, you may attract more attention than you are ready to deal with. Silence is one of the highest virtues to possess in the development of the human being, the greater your inner (and outer silence) the quicker you may progress.

All the best,
Adept of Light
#5
Hello Astral Soul,

Quote from: Astral SoulAs a result, I have been finding it difficult to believe that it is possible to find love that is enduring.  

The problem with the "love" between two humans is that it is extremely rarely "true love". We all talk of love, and degrees of it, we may even experience it, but still, do we really understand it?

I was once in a similar situation to you. After a significant relationship in my life ended, I felt extremely confused about "love".  Had I not been loving? How could our understanding of love be so different? I was really confused for a while, so much so, that I actually went around searching for what "love" actually meant.

Fast forward 4+ years, and I found my answer...

The love between humans is not true love. True love is self-less and conditionless. When we find a person we love and then we ask ourselves why we love that person, we always come up with reasons. "I love her because she is kind to me, beautiful, we really understand each other, etc".... These are all conditions. When these conditions dissapear, we seem to fall out of love with that person. So this, is not true love, it never was.

The only ones capable of expressing true love are very realized Enlightened souls who no longer desire anything in life (because they are 100% happy, 100% of the time), who will love you if you are a an ugly thief, a materialistic super model, or a Mother Theresa. Their love is *Divine*, and thus eternal and truly conditionless.

So what are we to do then? Should we still try to find a loving partner knowing it will be imperfect love? If you desire it, and if it will make you happier, then yes. In my experience, relationships between humans make us grow by leaps and bounds, and in essence we are here on Earth to learn aren't we? Even if the love isn't conditionless or "true love" by my definition, it can still be a very beautiful experience, letting us smile a little more each day.

It sounds crazy, but Love is worth the heart ache! I do not regret anyone I ever fell in love with. I am so thankful and much richer/mature today by having endured those beautiful experiences.

May divine love shine upon you and cure your aching heart,
Adept of Light
#6
Disclaimer: These aren't my own creations.. they magically appeared in my email box today....

1. I'm not completely useless, at least I can serve as a bad example!
2. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem
3. To err is human, but to find somebody to blame it on is even more human.
4. My Lord, please grant me patience... But I must have it right now !!
5. It doesn't matter if you don't know, what matters is knowing the phone number of somebody who does.
6. He who knows, knows. He who doesn't is your boss.
7. It's good to put aside your alcoholic beverages. What's not so good is forgetting where you put them.
8. Fear not, there IS a better world !! It is however extremely expensive.
9. The woman who has bad luck with men, doesn't realize how lucky she is.

-
Adept of Mocha Grande

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#7
Insight #8: Human "being" paradox

Regardless of how wise or how wonderous any of my thought realizations may ever be, I shall be crushed by the realities and consequenses of our physical plane for spending so much time thinking instead of doing as opposed to those who spend the same time doing instead of thinking.

Now stop thinking and get back to work....slacker! :P

-
Adept of the Void

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#8
Insight #7:

It is a miracle the human race has come as far as it has in terms of evolution, because if we take the time to analyze the mediocre pattern of our day to day thought patterns we can easily come to the conclusion that at least 95% of all the thoughts we had today were the same as the ones we had the previous day, and the day before that etc.

If only we learned something forever from a single and first introduction to it as opposed from lame repetition after repetition... Maybe then we could become Gods in a single incarnation!


PS. Please take a moment now, and thank your God; for my coffee mug has finally come to the stage of being full of emptiness! ;-)
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Adept of Light

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#9
Insight #6

Every microsecond is a miracle of monumentous proportions!

Given the makeup of of our bodies which are composed of trillions of atoms interacting at literal light speed, and given the size of our daily surroundings and its million times larger composure; proof of our dismal unintelligence is the fact that we are unable to grasp the simple concept that the events we witness throughout every passing microsecond are true miracles!

Why you ask?

Consider that the odds of all these atoms (your body atoms x your surrounding atoms) being in the same location as they are in a single microsecond ever again in the infinite span of time of eternity ... is a complete or at least very near impossibility.

Seize not the day, but each microsecond!!

When you realize the significance of this, your appreciation for every seemingly insignificant event will be so big that you won't be able to stop smiling in gratitude of being present before the miracle of life... for the rest of your life !

:-)

-
Adept of Light

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#10
Insight #5, financial paradox:

We are slaves to money and then we die.

"The greater our financial wealth, the greater the number of material possesions we acquire and typically the higher their independant worth.  But in our limited existance of linear time, the reality is that the truly blessed are those with no material possessions at all; for they shall be free to spend their time in life on personal ascenciousness as opposed to being slaves to material possession which would otherwise consume their valuable and limited time in constant watch, repair and devaluation.

Yet he who is financially poor, is more often than not fully consumed with worry of where his next dime will come from so he can at least make survive his outer shell (his body).

Where, oh where is the hidden path that permits escape from this cyclic wheel of Maya?

-
Adept of Light


"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#11
Insight #4:

"We can not transcend upon that which we depend on"

Those of us whom are fortunate enough to be freed from the worldly duties we performed daily (i.e. work)  so as to feed our basic human needs (food,water,shelter), ironically enough, are still mere slaves to those very same metrialistic things we've acquired.  For our very lives, our very existance depends upon them.

PS. In case you are wondering, this is my desperate attempt to acquire more stars in my forum rating by posting every random thought in my head while under the influence of the great magic potion that is the Mocha Grande!... er... not! [:P]

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#12
Insight #3:

The perplexities of the paradox "Our material surroundings are as real as they are illusionary" are so overwhelming to our puny intellects that we can only stand in awe at the size of our pathetic stupidity.  

What is amusing about this, is that if we were to create a range for rating the intellect of humans, taking into account all humans on Earth. Only the super brilliant (top 3%) would be able to see the humour in the above insight.

If you are smiling then I welcome you to my brilliant club... Stupid! :P
(no offence intended here)

Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the author under normal (caffeine free) circumstances ;-P
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Adept of Light

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#13
For those of you who don't live in North America and have no idea of what a "Mocha Grande" is, it is a Mocha drink (coffee + chocolate) sold at our largest coffee shop franchise (Starbucks: www.starbucks.com - don't go there, they don't need to benefit from my advertizement).

Insight #2: On Humbleness...

"We are less than dirt, we are an invisible fraction of it!"

Even our highest achievement in this incarnation would be as significant in the grand scale of the Universe as an electron jumping to a higher energy level in an atom of a grain of sand in the middle of the Sahara desert.

-
Adept of Light



"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#14
Mocha Grande Philosophy: (Starbucks  derived if you must know) :P
Insight #1:

"Unfortunately in our gross material existence, money is time, which surprisingly enough is not the same as its reverse and instead a higher level of realization.  But even this realization approaches an infinite point of near insignificance on the grand scale of the illusionary dimension of the Universe."

Comments:
(time is money means: each wasted moment that passes by that is not used to produce money implies that money is being lost)

While the reverse is quite different and far more significant:

(money is time means: For each dollar earned, basic necessities (aka: freedom from material world) can be fulfilled (the purchase of food,water,shelter) which directly translates in the ability for us to have time to think (free time))

Conclusion:
The second unfortunately depends on the first. Earning money requires time, and free time is only granted once we've spent enough money to free ourselves. Herein we've created a paradox whose substance has hierarchy (the second is greater than the first)  and interdependancies (again: the second depends on the first).


Disclaimer: While I might be able to explain the enlightenment of these words at this moment, I am almost certain that as soon as the buzz from my Mocha Grande coffee wears out, my ability to understand my own statements shall likely perish as does our very existence in this world as each moment passes us by.

-
Adept of Light

"He who pursues the goal of evenmindedness, is neither jubilant with gain, nor depressed by loss" - Paramahansa Yogananda
#15
To understand how the Astral influences the physical we must first understand the basic co-relation between the mental, astral & physical planes. All that we manifest on the physical plane originates first in thought (mental plane). "If man can not first imagine it, he can not create it". Between the mental plane and the physical overlays the Astral plane. Accessing the Astral plane to influence the physical plane is indeed very possible, but success hardly comes as easily as the author makes it sound. It may indeed be simple or easy for the author to do, but this does not mean that it is easy for everybody else to do. Just as the marathon (42K) runner describes how simple it is to run 10K doesn't mean everybody out there will be able to do it, or if they can, likely not even half as fast/well.

First one requires the ability to enter the astral plane (not to mention the right Astral plane). Then one requires the necessary amount of energy in the astral plane, then the mental clarity within the astral plane which requires one keep a calm and non-wandering mind (this is alredy a fairly difficult task for the beginner since every wondering thought tends to manifest into something and cause distractions and reality fluctuations in the Astral plane).  Next you require the right technique to influence the physical plane.

It is not beyond the scope of even the beginner to manifest "things" in the Astral plane, but the mere manifestation of things in the Astral does not automatically also cause them to influence or appear in the physical plane - far from it.

On the other end of the scale, it is possible to manifest things in the physical from the physical, although the process does initiate first as a *highly* concentrated thought with much power and focus which accumulates huge amounts of energy in the astral plane and then out of *seemingly* thin air, the manifestation takes place in the physical. There are other methods as well which involve the teleportation of physical matter, the accumulation & transformation of pranic energy, kaballistic sacred power Words, manifestation by third party entities, channeling divine power in through chakras, converting it and forming physical matter, etc.. the methods are numerous.  The type of manifestation the author is making reference to though is a far lower form that is not as specific and which requires a much lower degree of concentration, technique & overall power... still it is hardly a task that the vast majority of beginners will have any kind of immediate success with, but do try and try and try again; without effort nothing is accomplishable - that much I guarantee. ;-)

Adept of Light

#16
Welcome to Magic! / Materializing Stuff
August 09, 2004, 01:31:11
Hello SoulDragon,

quote:
How do you materialize stuff out of thin air?[:O]It's magic!



Indeed it is magic, but magic does not defy Newtonian or Quantum Physic laws, instead it makes use of higher laws still mostly undiscovered by modern science and unknown to the layman. Nothing can be created out of "thin air", however the materialization of physical matter out of *seemingly* thin air is in fact a very real reality.

Such manifestations are produced over and over again by various ancient and modern Yogis, Saints and holy Masters, not to mention Christ did the same with the continuous splitting of the loaf of bread to feed the masses. There are various East Indian Yogi's today who for example have the ability to execute "vibhuti"  - manifesting grams or kilos of sacred ash down from their finger tips. Google has a few pictures of this if you search for that key word.

Here's a page with a picture of a still living holy Master executing the siddhi or occult faculty [note picture half way down]: http://beaskund.helloyou.ws/askbaba/guide/avatarmission.html). Here's an excellent page describing the meaning of the phenomenon: http://www.sripremananda.org/english/e1_swami/e1c_mahashivaratri/e1c_vibhuti_001.htm


But the siddhi is not limited to only sacred ash. You could manifest anything you want, from living matter such as a fruit to an entire building if you wanted and had the right power/knowledge. Once you have the necessary power, your imagination is practically the only limitation.

Like every other aspect of lower and higher magic, there is a procedure to it, a protocol to be followed, a set of variables which when combined yield a result. Following the procedure exactly each time with the same variables in equal quantities, like a chemical reaction, always yields the same results - thus making the result repeatable. If it is repeatable it is not a miracle - it does not defy Universal laws but rather makes use of them accordingly and is therefore a science. Or more precisely, a sacred science. In the end there really is no "magic" or "miracle", it is only a question of making use of the the right knowledge and necessary power to produce the desired effect. The how it can be done is mostly related to one's spiritual & mental development and with the intruction outlined in advanced forms of Yoga (or similar/parallel teachings in other spiritual paths), physical manifestations out of *seemingly* thin air can thus take place.

Cheers,
Adept of Light
#17
Hello Naiad780,

quote:
By basic exercises, do you mean stretching?


Selski's goal was to be more alert so whichever exercises provide this for you would be good. Examples are some situps, push-ups, jumping jacks etc, but don't over-do it so that you feel tired afterwards because that defeats the entire purpose. Just get enough adrenaline pumping and your heart beat going fast enough that you can remain awake for the short meditation that we're making reference to here.

Stretching exercises are always very good. If you want to combine stretching exercises with something that will keep you awake and also greatly benefit your energy body, then I would highly recommend some Hatha Yoga postures. Whatever you choose in the 5 or 10 minutes, try to balance the stretches by exercising various parts of your body from head to feet. Striving for balance is always a good concept.

quote:
Adept of Light said: "Using certain types of insence & candles also help create the necessary ambience for better meditations.".
Naiad780 then asked: "Which kinds?"


None in particular because it depends on the mood you are trying to increase to make that day's meditation more successful.

The influence of candle types or colours upon your quality of meditation is mostly directly related to your perception of its influence. If you feel an affinity such as peace and calmness with white candles, then use those if that is the mood you are lacking that would grant you a more successful meditation. If you feel your meditation would be more successful if your heart was more open and loving then perhaps pink would do the job. This works by your mind associating different colours with different emotions and when you look at the white candle for example, you might associate that colour with the concept of "peace" and thus more likely have an easier time feeling that emotional state. Human memory works by trigger affect. Colours, sounds, scents etc, can often trigger memories and emotions.

Once this simple relationship and influence is understood, you will be able to choose the right colour of candle for that particular day's meditation. In short, go with what *you* think feels better and experiment if you feel the need. If you wish to delve further, you can always look into candle magic (here's some short but good reading: http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos104.htm) , but this is not necessary at all for what we are doing here - a simple and short meditation to calm the mind and relax the body so that we can proceed with energy exercises. I have only expounded a little upon the subject matter to satisfy curiosity and perhaps plant some seeds of interest.

With incenses the idea is similar and so go with what you feel is best for you and sets that specific positive mood you may most need that day. The science of aromatherapy details how this phenomenon works upon the physical, emotional and mental aspects of the human body. But again, this is a bit overkill of the exercise at hand and such a study is not at all required. Also keep in mind that different people react differently to different scents, so while there are guidelines, there really are no hard & fast rules.

Colours & scents are like foods; different people will prefer different ones at different times. This is because they associate the varience of each with specific emotions which then trigger specific and different reactions in the individual. The ones that trigger positive reactions in you are the ones you'll want to keep track of and use depending upon your need that particular day.

Still at the end, neither candles, nor incenses nor background music is necessary for proper meditation. In fact, for me often peace, quite and minimal distractions is what allows me to have the most successful meditations.

You're most welcome.

Take good care,
Adept of Light
#18
Hello Selski,

I suppose it depends on the type of meditation you are doing.
Meditation to "clear the mind" as you mentioned is actually a fairly advanced type of meditation. Most people can't truly clear their minds of all thoughts for more than 15 seconds before some thought, vision, mental sound, etc enters their mind. Further, such an advanced type of meditation is not required to raise energy because the raising of energy can take place at "lesser" states of mind; in fact, the act of initiating the raising of energy requires thought. You need to think in order to raise energy. "Energy follows thought" -That is a very well known and true esoteric aphorism.

I think it is important that we get a better grasp of what meditation is. Meditation is the application of right-concentration toward a desired mental state or realization. A fundamental requirement of having successful meditations, is having the necessary level of concentration for the necessary period of time. If you are counting your breaths and you lose track 1/2 way through, this is because your concentration is still lacking and your mind has wondered off.

Sometimes the mind isn't even aware it has wandered off and won't realize this till many seconds or minutes later when it remembers what it is supposed to be doing. If your mind is wondering, you can rest assured that what you are doing is *not* called meditation. Meditation is controlled thought or controlled lack of thought.If at any point you lose mental control, then you will also have stopped meditating.

If you are having problems staying awake during meditation then I suggest the following:

a) Change the schedule of when you are doing meditation so that you are doing it during a time of day when you have more energy.

b) Meditation does not require you to close your eyes, in fact, various advanced teachers of meditation recommend you keep your eyes almost closed but enough that a little light can enter with one of the intents being so that you stay awake.

c) Work on your asana posture, leaning against a wall is ok to start with, but slowly work towards trying to be in a posture where you do not need to do this. The lotus posture is of course the best posture for this, but keep in mind not everybody's physiology is capable of this and a straight back can still be kept in a semi-lotus posture or even cross legged position by either using pillows under your rear such that your knees touch the ground and are supported and you no longer need a wall, or place pillows accordingly under your knees to provide the necessary balance. Further, the Japanese asana posture is also a good alternative.

d) Right posture is required for right breathing. Without proper breathing your body will not get enough oxygen and will feel sluggish. Doing some basic pranayama breathing exercises can also help boost your energy prior to meditation. The same is true for doing some basic physical exercises for even just 5 minutes before you start meditating.

e) Avoid eating at least 1 hour before doing meditation. The processing of food by your organs sucks up a lot of energy during digestion; this is why most people also feel sluggish after a big meal.

f) Wash your face repeatedly for 1 minute with cold water prior to meditation, this will help awaken you.

g) Engage in various short meditations of 5 to 10 minutes each, rather than aiming for hour+ long meditations. You need little successes and take little steps before you get into more advanced stages.

h) If you are male, you will find that if you have ejaculated in the past ~48 hours (depending on your age, health etc), you will likely feel far more sluggish and tired than if you had not done so. If you are female, you will find that you will have less energy around the time of your menstruation and thus have higher success rate in meditation during other times.

i) Real meditation should be done without music in complete silence, but to start out, it is better to create a serene and relaxing ambience than to try to start "hard core" & fall asleep with so much silence ;-)

j) Using certain types of insence & candles also help create the necessary ambience for better meditations.

There's lots more to meditation, and you can always go out and find some good books that expand what I've stated into far more detail, but again, very advanced meditations are not required to be raising energy. Simply being able to get into a relaxed state while keeping your consciousness awake is the basic key to then being able to start feeling the energy flow in your body and controlling it.

All the best,
Adept of Light
#19
Dear Jilola,

Originally posted by jilola

AdeptofLight:
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I believe that by "our true nature" you meant our desires and needs as the human beings we are today, but those so called needs we have are not ours, but belong to our temporal Egos which are sperate from our spirits, and it is our Egos which keep us in the perception of being seperate from the whole. Remove the Ego, and you remove desires, you remove needs and all the sins that go along with fulfiling those desires and needs, what remains afterwards is our true nature in all its purity. ;-)


Jilola:
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I disagree. Removing the ego from te driver's seat doesnät remove desires and it should because ddesires are what keep us moving forward. It does, however, remove the attachment and dependency on the achievement and quality of the result of pursuing those desires.
In other words while one still strives towarrd a goal there is no longer any difference between achieving the goal and not achieving it.



Removing of the Ego from the drivers seat is the very definition of liberation or enlightenment. One who has accomplished this has reached the goal and no longer has any desires of any kind.

If one still strives toward the goal, then one still has an Ego to deal with, and so long as one has not achieved enlightenment, logically one can not TRULY know from experience the difference between achieving it and not achieving it, though even a little rational analysis of the problem of living with an Ego tells us that not having one would allow us to experience superior forms of bliss. Further, when one engages in the serious work toward enlightenment, one is capable of seeing gradual improvements in our selves and we begin to slowly experience more and more states of happiness, so the logical conclusion here is that there is indeed a difference between not engaging in the work, being on the path and actually doing the work, and having completed the work.

Cheers,
Adept of Light
#20
Hello again Kerri,

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I think (and feel free to correct me if this does not make sense) that what you mean by saying that when sexuality is worked on esoterically, this is ther further evolution of spirit desiring the greater expression in that area of the individual's experience.  


To engage in sexual esoteric work is to master the accumulation and then transformation of sexual energy into spiritual energy. One who engages in such work is not seeking a greater expression in that individual experience, but rather one is seeking advanced goals stemming from this type of experience which is the raising of the kundalini. Raising the kundalini ***NATURALLY***, *SAFELY* & repeatedly leads to the perfection of the self which brings our spirit closer to union with its other half (the divine self) which once united results in permanent Enlightenment which is the experience of everything and NOT *a* mere individual experience.

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Therefore (for lack of a better word) lustful sex, driven by pure physical desire can be hurtful because the individual may subconsciously be seeking the higher experiences yet is not yet capable of fully experiencing it.



Yes that is mostly correct. As I believe I said in a previous post, a simple observation of physical sex shows two bodies attempting to unite into a single one, but in the end this is never achieved (the bodies always end up eventually separated) because typical physical sex is a very poor attempt at emulating what we subconsciously want - a divine union of our spirit with our other divine half - our higher self.

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This may be because of their own barriers and need for a further and deeper understanding of themselves as a spiritual being inhibit their ability to experience the higher levels of the sexual experience.



There are many, many barriers before proper execution of sexual alchemy can be properly performed. A few are:
Inner barriers: Insufficient inner development of the Self and its character, karmic debt, lack of mental clarity resulting in ignorance of truth and of seeing objective truth, under developed energy body.  External barriers: Lack of right instruction , lack of a qualified guru or high level spiritual teacher to oversee when student is ready to perform the work safely.

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I also imagine this would require a partner who is also on the path and in search of the greater sexual/spiritual experience.  Do you feel both partners must be conscious that the sexual act can be a vehicle for experiencing the Divine in order for them to share the Divine experience?



The work of sexual alchemy is inner individual work and so does not require a partner, but there do exist practices that allow to work with a partner. In such a case, it is important the partner is properly educated in the methods, and has the same spiritual desires.

We experience the Divine all the time, in fact, at no time do we NOT experience the divine, for all that exists is a manifestation of the Divine. Though I believe in the context you wrote you meant higher energy/spiritual experiences.  Alchemical sexual practices with a partner involve the exchange of chakral energies by sending these via specific energy pathways and eventually through interconnecting points (such as sexual organs) into the energy bodies of your partner. The success of such rituals and the quality of the experience will depend on the abilities and development of the two individuals at every level (physical, energetic, emotional and mental).

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What about the desires of experiencing the ecstacy of the Divine?  Is this still egocentric?  I'm not asking a rhetorical question...  I would actually like to know if anyone has an opinion of this,  because it is something that is a bit confusing to me.  If my life is directed towards reaching a state of the divine unity, does that mean that the desire to have these experiences are still desires of the ego?



No. There are good desires and bad desires. To paraphrase Buddhist teachings, desires which lead to greater attachment and separation of the Self from the greater reality are bad desires (e.g. materialistic desires, lustful desires, etc). The opposite of such desires are the desires that lead to spiritual liberation (enlightenment). Desires who have this as their ultimate goal are noble and pure desires. But it is not always so black and white. For example, to engage in spiritual studies so that you may understand how to become enlightened is a very noble type of desire; however, excessive study can also become an impediment to attaining enlightenment, for if all one does is read and study hoards of spiritual books, in actual fact one is doing nothing practical to work toward enlightenment and it will never be reached by merely reading books. So the degree of the desire is also important and constant self-evaluation, clear minded rationality and being radically truthful with yourself are fundamental requirements on the way to *achieving* enlightenment. That said, let me clear up right now that I am quite guilty of the above (too much study, not enough practice) which makes me sound experienced, but in actual fact, I am only somewhat knowledgeable which is really of little worth by comparison.

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I agree to a certain extent yet I believe there comes a point where through an individual's evolution, we outgrow the organized structure and need to forge our own way. I agree that sex can be like a knife, it can benefit one or it can hurt one.  In fact, i can see this through the evolution of my own sexual experiences.  I feel that now, I am reaching a point where my spiritual evolution is pushing me to seek the greater experience in all aspects of my life.  My spiritual growth is directly in line with my work so that is all taken care of and my spiritual growth supports my work (I'm a Motivational Speaker/Writer)the sexual experience seems to be the main area that is lagging.  



Yes, organized group spirituality has the goal of aiding those who are not yet mature enough to ascend the path on their own. While you may not go to a church, you are in this spiritual community of sorts as I am. We have traded one organized form of spirituality for another, though hopefully a better one for *US*. I believe one of the keys to working on our own path is to place minimal dependence of our progress externally. So while I am here (once in a while) with you and others, I recognize that most of my growth must come from personal work and not spending hours posting on these boards exchanging opinions, help and other information, though sometimes, that too is necessary. I personally find enjoyment as you do motivating others, but it is also something that I can easily get carried away with, so after this post, I will probably hold back for a while ;-)

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In my own marriage, I was at one level of spiritual/sexual understanding when I got married which was a higher understanding of myself than I was in college.  I never would have chosen at 26, the same relationship I chose at 20 and I believe that when we got married, we may have both been on ths same page.  Since then, I have grown Tremendously and the same experience I may have sought at 26 is not the same experience I now desire at 33.



As the cliche goes, if there is one constant, it is change. This is actually an esoteric maxim. Nothing physical is permanent, everything vibrates, and nothing stays the same.  What is important for us individually, is that our changes lead to us becoming more positive and increase our emotional, intellectual and spiritual growth.

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So, the deeper desire for something more weighs heavily on my mind and makes my heart yearn for a greater spiritual connection with my partner so I can fulfill that aspect of my own sexual nature.  Unfortunately, this is something I can not fabricate and my partner seems disinterested in the path.



As I've explained before, spiritual union leading to true and permanent happiness is not to be acquired by the physical union between two imperfect human beings. Two wrongs don't make a right! [;)] This is of course far easier to say than to live with. In addition, the practice of sexual alchemy as I've explained above does not require a partner, so you might want to reconsider the shifting of the blame externally to your partner's lack of interest. Having said that, his disinterest is surely in part due to his ignorance of the subject matter. Orgasms achieved through sexual alchemy are far superior in quality and states of bliss than mere genital orgasms. So perhaps increasing yours and then his education on the subject matter might stimulate more interest, though be very careful to not try to change or push your partner into this stuff but rather let him come to his own conclusions and understanding of HIS needs. Also, using some humour might not be a bad idea. What average guy in his right mind wouldn't want to take part in "the practice" of sexual acts every other day? Maybe you can start out with some simple exercises in tantric sex whereby he can increase his sexual performance and levels of genital orgasm. If he sees that your methods improve his sexual life, perhaps he will keep on listening to your instructions and slowly progress to higher stages of sexual alchemy.

In addition though, and if I may, I would suggest you take some time for yourself and engage in very deep self-analysis with the goal of identifying the TRUE root causes of the dissatisfaction you have expressed. Is your partner really to blame for your lack of happiness? So long as our spiritual progress is dependant on things external to us, we may very well continue to be repeatedly disappointed.

My best wishes to you Kerri,

Adept of Light
#21
Hello again Kerri,
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Originally posted by Lighthouse
So what I'm seeing here is that there is a general consensus here that there is no conflict between sexuality and spirituality.  



No. There can be conflict because sexuality is like a knife, whomever holds it can do good (to themselves spiritually) or bad (to themselves spiritually). Most humans use sexuality for the purpose of temporary pleasure and reproduction. This is almost a necessary phase in the human soul evolution. Lessons are learned by establishing and passing through various types of relationships, but these are very low level and "poor" lessons compared to the gigantic steps that are taken when sexuality is worked upon esoterically, but then again not all, in fact, most humans are not ready for this type of work and delving too early into such endevours could have adverse affects too. All good things, in good time. There is no need to rush, our spirits are eternal! =)

I'd say the two are definitely interconnected (sex and spirituality), and what happens to one certainly affects the other. In the end, depending on our individual states of personal development, the appropriate phase of sexuality and spiritual development must be undertaken in order for us to grow. There exist many levels to both sex and spirituality, but the important thing is to develop them in balance. Conflict arises when the two are out of sync or when we digress in the development of either. Lustful sex, as an example is nearly always a digression because of the harm (physically & spiritually) we are doing to ourselves if we never grow beyond this type of sex. That said, sometimes we need to undergo a relationship experiencing this type of sex to later realize what a poor cousin it is to sex with a partner whom we "love". This is a very extensive subject, and I've barely scratched the surface.

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The conflict seems to be between what mainly christian religions define as sin and our true nature.



The problem is that we believe our true nature is who we are, but our true nature is really a divine one and our function here is to ascend towards it. The concept of sin is to help us avoid the pitfalls of temptation (to use christian terms) and work toward reaching our true nature of being more human (as per my last post).

I believe that by "our true nature" you meant our desires and needs as the human beings we are today, but those so called needs we have are not ours, but belong to our temporal Egos which are sperate from our spirits, and it is our Egos which keep us in the perception of being seperate from the whole. Remove the Ego, and you remove desires, you remove needs and all the sins that go along with fulfiling those desires and needs, what remains afterwards is our true nature in all its purity. ;-)

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Which leads me to ask the question, Which is the greater sin... expecting one to live against their own nature by imposing rules or allowing people to live in the way that is in harmony with their nature and reserving judgment?  I'll take the life of working in harmony with my nature any day. [^]



Living against your own nature by imposing rules can actually be a very good thing for one's growth, assuming those rules are meant to help eradicate bad behaviour inherent in your present nature. Organized religeon is a good example of this, and I would go as far as saying that it is a necessary thing and there are a lot of people that gain and grow through its engagement.

If your nature is not so great, rules can be a good thing, because they can be used as a self-disciplining tool for one's transformation and growth. If your nature is great, rules can act negatively by posing as barriers of limitation and thus inhibiting growth.

Living in harmony with one's nature may sound like a great thing, and it is, but I believe most of us who try to do this fail. If our true nature is an enlightened one, then yes we will be in permanent harmony, but since most of us are not enlightened, we can not live in this manner. What we then do is often mistakenly try to live within our present nature in a harmoneous way, and this sounds great at first because there would obviously be less conflict with the self. The problem is that humans tend to stagnate in growth when they are too comfortable in their peaceful settings. Challenges and suffering unfortunately or fortunately bring about far more rapid growth.

The best thing (well for me anyway) is to work introspectively and seek positive change in myself constantly, because then I can grow by leaps and bounds with minimal suffering ( I am fixing problems in myself before they have a chance to manifest to any great extent) and without having to live constrained by the rules and creeds of others because by trying to know myself, I know which rules are best for me. This method tends to bring about a relatively harmoneous growth without stagnation.

Reserving judgement toward others is mostly a good thing... most people don't like to be criticized. Reserving judgement toward yourself can be debilitating toward personal growth. Over judging ourselves in a negative context is also debilitating toward personal growth, balance as the old cliche goes, is key.

Cheers,
Adept of Light
#22
Hello Kerri,

Regarding your original post:
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Originally posted by Lighthouse
In it, Peck states that in many fundamentalist viewpoints, sex is the devil or evil trying to tempt us to be lustful and sinful (a belief that neither myself nor Peck subscribe to) and that God would not be a sexual being.  Some of these groups would purport that God is a-sexual and living a spiritual life in the truest sense means denying the yearnings of the flesh (a belief that many organized religions have adopted.)



Unfortunately, those fundamentalists are partially right, but for wrong reasons because they possess wrong understanding.

Sex is not the devil - in just about any sense of that sentence. That's just absurd, though I do understand how they came up with that saying. Sex can and most often is lustful, and how it may be sinful is a subject that would require many more paragraphs to explain, so I shall abstain in this regard.

You see when it comes to copulation, eating and sleeping, for most of us, there is very little difference between being human or animal. This is because those acts are instinctual and humans often act in the same way as animals. Getting back to the sex part, animals do not know love or spirituality, they are purely instinctive. Lust is mainly about fulfilling a physical sexual urge - an instinct. We are born with that and we all have such instincts. Is it wrong? It is not a question of being wrong or right. Things are not so black and white and definitive. It is right or wrong depending on our spiritual level of evolution, our level of intellect and understanding of things esoteric pertaining to sexuality. A baby who takes the toy of another baby is less wrong than a thief who knows that stealing is wrong and does it anyway - although in essence they both really performed the same act. So how wrong it may be is relevant to our level of understanding and in essence, level of evolvement as a human being.

There does exist a hierarchy of beings (minerals, plants, animals, humans, elementals, deities, angels, demons, etc), and yes they all influence us (whether we can see them or not), but for the most part it is not the "devil" that tempts us. Who can say they have truly seen the devil? I think if we ever met such a demon, we would not be around to talk about it. LOL! It is our own basic and underdeveloped human side that makes us act instinctual or lustful. By being less human (using less intellect, less will power, being less loving etc) we are thus more animalistic. Falling into temptation can to some extent be described as simply lacking sufficient will power, which is a quality of being less human.  

If you study Satanism even at a very basic level you will understand that the core of their belief system is to participate in as many pleasurable acts as possible - they worship themselves. In essence, what they really seek is happiness like every other human being who is not a Satanist, but their method of acquiring happiness is sadly very distorted because instead of elevating themselves to become more human and to eventually experience salvation/enlightenment aka " eternal bliss/paradise", they mistakenly think that by becoming more animalistic and fulfilling their every instinct (and thus falling to every temptation) will bring them pleasure and thus happiness... and it does, but its only the very temporary kind. No physical pleasure is eternal! So they ride waves of poor types of happiness (e.g. lustful sex), to then suffering afterwards because it is physically impossible to have lustful sex continuously into eternity. The above explains at a basic level the reason the devil is associated with the term "the beast" and why Christ's teachings urge us to resist temptation.

As far as God goes, and that is even a far lengthier subject; let me just say that anybody who thinks they can put into words what God is, is only an ignorant fool. So to claim god is sexual or a-sexual or whatever, is just complete non-sense.

So often we see the books of self-proclaimed spiritual people talking about God, and attempting to define it... it is rather silly endeavour in my mind. The highest goal of any of the major religions is to become one with "God", because amongst many other reasons, the only way to TRULY know something is to be that something! To be one with it.  When we observe things externally we can only describe subjectively what that something is. For example, if I attempt to describe an apple, I can say it is red, round, weighs about 1/4 lbs, etc. I can go on for a while describing various physical characteristics of it, but could I possibly really describe it to such an extent that it would encompass everything that the apple truly is ?? No! Of course not. I could not possibly know what it tastes like for example by simply observing it externally. And so how some so called spiritual people (e.g. Mr. Peck) think they can accurately describe "God" when they haven't even truly "seen it" or become One with it (the definition of enlightenment), well to me they are only talking about things they do not truly know! So, please let us use a little rationality! :)


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Peck goes on to disagree with the notion that sexuality and spirituality are in conflict with one another... Stating that the physical union of flesh is the desire to know and unite with the Beloved, also the quest for spiritual enlightenment is the desire to know and unite with the Beloved.  He sees no conflict.  He then goes on to say that sex "screws things up" and that we often confuse the object of our sexual yearning for God and this is what makes sex a "problem" (he states that we all have problems with sex: Married people, single people, straight people, gay people, men, women and even Scott Peck.)



"Sexuality and spirituality are in conflict with another" is such a vague and broad statement that it is almost pointless to try to discuss it, but I will take a quick shot at it here.

When sex is lustful, yes it very much is in conflict with spiritual growth because as I've already explained to be lustful is to be animalistic and when we are being animalistic we are not being more human and ascending toward the divine aspects of ourselves, instead we are descending in the opposite direction.  On the other hand, sex when performed in certain ways (and there are several of these...and, no I'm not talking about 101 kama sutra positions here..heh), can indeed help the human being ascend spiritually, so in that sense no it is not in conflict with spirituality.

The physical union of flesh has nothing to do with a desire to know and unite with the Beloved. Physical union of the flesh is an instinctive behaviour with a subconscious purpose of reproduction of the species. That said, the second statement is mostly accurate regarding enlightenment and uniting with the beloved, assuming beloved means "God".

"sexual yearning for God"? Where does this guy come up with this stuff? How many people do you know (including yourself) that when having sex with another human being has had the thought and "yearning" to really be having sex with God?!

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Then he goes on to state that if indeed we are made in Gods image, perhaps God is a sexual being, passionate, sexual, spiritual and sensual.  I have heard and read of experiencing the Divine in a truly passionate, even erotic encounter.  Many saints have written poetry on this as well as had written accounts of experiencing true passion through their Beloved Lord, God.



The statement that we are made in God's image has nothing to do with physical or physiological aspects of ourselves. It does not take too intellectual a human to reach that conclusion. We are *NOT* all the same physically. Some of us are born black, some white, others grow to be 4 feet tall, others 7 feet tall, some of us weight a mere 80lbs, others 500! So because we are not all identical twins, or even close to that, obviously that statement has nothing to do with physical aspects of being human. That statement, like most others in the bible should not be interpreted at the surface level, because to do so is to completely misunderstand it. The simplest of spiritual people have this grand idea that God is this large fatherly figure with long white beard sitting on a thrown up in heaven overlooking Earth. Please, let us leave such irrational imaginings to children's cartoons. The bible makes several refernces of god as an eternal flame of the brightest light. We are but individual sparks from that flame, and so in that symbolic sense yes we are made in its image. Our spirits are those sparks. But I dare not go on, because to do so would be to fall into the same trap as the rest of the spiritual book writers who claim to understand God. *grin*


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1.  Does anyone understand well enough the difference (if any) between being celibate and Chaste?  



I think others have adequately answered this one already.

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2. What are your views on Spirituality and Sexuality?  Is there a conflict between the 2 and if so why?  



I've touched on this already to some extent. I will only add that sexuality in practically all its forms is a necessary thing. Physical sex is necessary for the reproduction of the species. The reproduction of the species serves the purpose of humans to incarnate and eventually work on their spiritual selves.  Humans that are more spiritually evolved will know how to use sex to ascend even further spiritually. These may indulge in practices which have nothing to do with the reproduction of the species and which do not necessarily require another human being.  This is because in part the ultimate goal of humans (whether they are aware of it or not) is to unity with God, and not another human being. A mere observation of the inter-human sexual act reveals to us symbolically that two bodies try to merge into one, but never, ever, do they succeed. In the end they both end up two separate entities as they began and the goal is not accomplished. Their "other half" is not another imperfect human, but instead through certain spiritual practices which require the perfection of the Self allows them to come closer and closer to uniting with their true other half often referred to as the higher-self, God - the perfected half. Like oil(imperfect) on water(perfect), the two can not merge together, but when perfection is merged with perfection, a single unity of perfection is possible.

This is why Christ said to "know thyself", because to do so is to know who you are (good and bad) and by identifying your faults and imperfections you are then in a good position to begin to do the hard work of transforming those so that you become a more perfect human whose pureness reflects and *IS* the image of God!

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3. Why is it that most Holy Men and Women choose to be celibate?  Does it enhance their passion for the Divine by harnessing that passion instead of being distracted by the longings (and idolotry) of the object of their physical adoration?



Celibacy is a greatly misunderstood subject in our spiritually poor western society. Catholic priests who are supposedly celibate often end up masturbating to release that sexual tension (like most normal men do, or having sex but just not having it known publicly), or if they really are capable of remaining celibate for long periods of time (many months or years) they usually end up either committing horrific sexual acts (e.g. molesting children), and often developing severe prostate problems due to inactivity of their sexual organs. The reason for this is because they, once again, have misunderstood the holy teachings because they are merely interpreting symbolic teachings word for word at the surface level.

Abstaining from sex does not make a human more holy! Such is an act of asceticism which is an act of extremism, and extreme acts lead to extreme consequences! If we abuse our bodies (by either having too much sex, or abstaining from it all together), we shall suffer the consequences! Balance is the key.

That said, it is entirely possible to not engage in the physical sexual act, and be celibate in the truly intended way of the various scriptures and avoid all problems stated above (re: priests). The key to this is to learn how to TRANSFORM the sexual energy we accumulate, into spiritual energy. Such practices are the ones taught in a certain type of Yoga, they are the same practices of Taoist sexology, the same practices of *correct* Sexual Alchemy .

The transformation of base metals into gold is NOT (yet again to be interpreted literally) a physical practice aiming to make one monetarily rich, it is however the internal practice of transforming the inner self from an imperfect being to something spiritually pure, reflecting light and of high value (like gold). Such is a compilation of various types of practices, one of which is the transformation of sexual energy into spiritual energy. To give a clue, it is related with moving the sexual energy from the sex organs up through the various chakras and storing it in certain energy centres in the bioplasmic part of the human body which then results in the increase of one's vitality, intellect, health and after prolonged practice, increase in spiritual maturity.


*Choosing* to be celibate, has often little to do with choice, but rather blindly obliging to doctrines whose original intent has been distorted and is grossly misunderstood. Celibacy without proper transformation of the sexual energy does not enhance passion for the Divine, but rather increases only passion in the erotic sense. Harnessing passion is not sufficient. Transformation of sexual energies is however absolutely necessary!  

It is not that they are merely distracted by their longings because (in the male body at least) the accumulation of sexual energy by being celibate can grow to such an extent that even the slightest hint of anything sexy (like mere bare skin of any part of the body) can become the biggest distraction leading to a physical sexual act (whether sex with a partner or masturbation).

And btw, such men are very often only "holy" in the eyes of other ignorant men and they are bestowed such titles either by organizational election (e.g. Christian Church) or by other not so holy men (e.g. government officials). Holiness is not something that is bestowed upon man by another man, and it is something one works upon and becomes and to which there is little point in trying to quantify externally... but that's a subject for a whole other post ;)

Take good care,
Adept of Light
#23
Welcome to Magic! / Franz Bardon?
March 08, 2004, 22:35:59
Hello neowert,

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Originally posted by neowert
Specifically, what do you think on his separation of astral & mental body for astral projection, and the ecstacy state?  How is his method different from the methods common on this board?  What makes this board's methods non-lethal?  


Your excellent questions and other related ones are answered in *extensive* detail in these two links:

http://www.abardoncompanion.com/Warning.html
http://www.abardoncompanion.com/Wandering2.html

Cheers,
Adept of Light
#24
Welcome to Magic! / Pojecting my will onto others...
February 13, 2004, 22:44:11
Dear TheLuns,

Your wanting to help your three friends out of their difficult lives are well intentioned desires, but if you are barely a beginner in magical arts, it may be a while before you will really be able to help them in this way to any recognizable extent.

The power of magic is endless (after all Christ resurrected the dead!), but the power of magic is also derived from the magician, or more correctly stated, can only manifest in proportion to the development of the magician. A well developed magician is far more than one who has read endless books on magic and has climbed to the rank of philosopher or theologian. Inner development requires work which for most takes years of practice and even lifetimes (depending on what level we are talking about).

With this in mind, I would propose at this time that you seek worldly solutions to your friend's worldly problems. It will no doubt be imperative you not lose hope and remain optimist toward their recovery, but also keep in mind that severe problems require much time (in these cases I would suggest many years) before you can expect recovery to any "normal" level of sanity. Help as much as you can and feel you would like to, but whatever you do, do not lose yourself in their worlds.

Getting back to magic and entering other's minds, Franz Bardon's book Initiation into Hermetics in step 4 explains how this can be accomplished, but again this is not work for beginners. Unless you have some natural born talent, it could take months, more realistically a few years before you reach this step if you practice the exercises daily for 2 hours+ a day.

In the same way that it may take you 8+ years to become a surgeon before you could in theory help a friend with a brain tumour by doing surgery on their brains, you could seek somebody who already has such abilities (one who is a brain surgeon) and get them to see if they would be willing to help. In other words, if you can't become a magician in time to help, find a magician that can help today. But to be honest, more modern and simpler approaches to their problems would yield good results without you searching a while to find such a person, (if you could even find one that would be willing and capable of helping). Also, using such high levels of magic in comparison to more easily accessesable means in our western world, would be like trying to find somebody who has mastered telekinesis so that they could lift the pencil on your desk 1 foot up in the air. Wouldn't it be far easier to just lift it up with your hand? So once more... for worldly problems, use worldly solutions.

Now for a more broad philosophical outlook at your friend's lives. Yes they are suffering, but suffering also allows for lessons to be learned. In fact, I would argue sometimes that's the quickest way to learn a lesson. Put your finger in the fire, if it burns you, you will not be doing that again so quickly. The spirit does learn lessons between life-times. Their spirits will learn some lessons in this life, regardless of the outcome or how much suffering is endured. Remember, in the broader perspective there are no failures, only experiences. Death is not failure, it is the passage onto a new life, onto new opportunities. Their suffering is mostly the result of their own actions or past actions, and the misconception of the attachment to their own Egos and physical bodies.
Of course to overcome such "illusions", you'd need to already be quite the advanced spiritual person, from which these people appear to be *at the very least* 1 life-time away from, one could just as easily argue hundreds.

From a psychological perspective, you need to realize that these people can not be helped by you. At best, they can be influenced by you to help themselves. Getting off cocaine addictions and healing psychologically from being rapped is hardly something you can help with directly at this point in time. With some medium level magic (as per Step4 above) you could implant thoughts in their minds for them to want to help themselves, or to create negative mental associations between their addictions/problems such that they would move in the opposite direction toward a healthier life, but such positive manipulations may actually not be helping them. The only way to know for sure is to consult with your higher self which is always 100% right. To do this you'd need contact with it which is achieved around the same step in that book. If your higher-self says that it is *not* ok to help them and you do, you could actually be inflicting negative karma into your own spirit and/or theirs and prolonging the number of reincarnations they must endure, which in essence translates to more suffering in this or future lives.

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in conclusion my requests are
1. if some one could teach me an effective process for bringing others under my control (horrible way to put it but basically...)
and 2. if some one could point me in a proper direction of education (that doesn't involve me reading 100 books that i hardly understand... take Crowley... i can understand him when he writes scientifically, but the other stuff...)



The aforementioned book and *LOTS* of practice is all you will need. No need for 100 books, only the right 1 book. That book however as I've mentioned before is not for everybody, read some of my previous posts to get a better understanding of who that book is for.

I think in the immediate present, you can help them by being their friend, giving them your example, seeking resources to help them once they are ready to be helped (e.g. doctors, counsellors, psychologists, anti-drug groups, rape therapy groups etc, I'm sure you can think of other ones).

Take good care and best of luck,
Adept of Light

PS. The love you feel for the 15 year old girl is not necessarily just love. Depending on how much effort, time and sacrifice you put into trying to help her in her life, it could actually be a form of escapism from your own personal issues that need to be resolved in your life (no matter if they are just as heavy or far simpler than hers).  I could go on for many paragraphs about this subject alone and the various misinterpretations of this type of love, but this is not the place nor necessarily the time for such discussions. This is not to say you don't truly feel some love for her, I'm just suggesting that there could potentially be more to it than just this.
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Welcome to Magic! / Dream Powers #1
January 24, 2004, 11:42:52
Hello nightspirit8,

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CAn one read dreams of another by going through their mind?



Yes and there are also other ways. Also it depends on what you mean by "going through their mind". Unless you are inside their mind, you will have a difficult time understanding the personal dream symbology of their dream. e.g. If you hipnotize the person and ask them to recall their dream, what they relate to you verbally will have far less meaning than if your conscious entered their mind during this recollection.

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And if so, can they do it with out seeing the person or being near them?

Yes.

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Also, can one make another dream something?


Yes. However, consider the moral and karmic implications of such an act, whether meant for positive or negative purposes.

Take good care,
Adept of Light