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Went to sleep, too lazy to obe. Then at 3 AM, get up and go to bathroom. But I couldn't sleep. So I laid on my bed, started to think about school and other stuff.

Then with my eyes open, I commanded the universe to see something amazing. Within a few seconds later. Everything changes to a lucid purple.

Then I see my bed and myself and every view of myself at every 3d angle possible.

Shortly after, I see +++++++++++ pluses circle my body, and they turn slow then fast. An infinite cone came, where I was falling up, where it looks like your falling but your actually flying up. The earth goes down, and I go up.

(my eyes are still open, i can move my hands and body and I can talk, no vibes, no OBE)

Then some really weird sh*t happened. I had an two personalities. Where I had an OBE, and I was in my body. I got up in my real body, walked around, yet I saw multiple dimensions with my eyes. I saw the astral, non-astral and every dimension in between. I saw angels in every corner of my room, with a sword that was glowing like fire. Then, I laid down. Closing my eyes then opening them and turning around to see if it would vanish. Yet they were still all around me.

What freaked me was when this angel touched me, I felt the pressure. Then I pushed away at her and I felt her. I was in my REAL body, she felt so soft like silk, yet when I touched her in astral, she was not "solid" as my hand went through her. Then in an instant I said "out" and I was in my astral, watching my own real body, yet I went downstairs to get some food and I was doing normal living tasks with my real body, and I was watching myself from astral and I was watching my astral from my real self. I said to them, Im over here. And the angels followed me in astral. I tricked them because I was in my body too.

Anyone have these types of experiences where you are COMPLETELY awake, and completely astral at the same time, witch two existances? Is this something new? Is there something similar?

Im going to experiment to see if I can get maybe 5 existances.

I am part of a group of teenage mind researchers. We have seeked the God mind, where all the conscious minds become combined.

I wanted to OBE, now I do them multiple times per day, Iv probably had thousands of OBEs. I wanted more.

I tried the kinesis, now I can move whatever I want.

I tried psychic attacks, lets put it this way, Its affected almost everyone I tried it on.

Yet I still wanted more. I wanted the golden key to getting anything I wanted. I wanted unlimited access to Gods power and universal control. I recieved a very secret technique, where I can implement visions into reality. With this key, I could at will connect with the head of the universe.

I was afraid. I asked God for assistance. Then something beyond happened. I was told that the world is mine and there are no rules unless I command it so. Then I asked God if I could ask him something, then he told me not to ask. He said I am to command God what to do and anything and God will do it.

Before I went on my spree of power. I was told that Karma doesn't exist, good and bad don't exist. Then I asked, well if bad doesn't exist what about Hitler. He told me that Hitler went to heaven and that what he did wasn't bad. Very scared, I went to sleep.

The next day, I commanded instant results for my instant visions. I looked at a kid, and said fall. He slipped on a piece of paper in the hallway and fell. I felt guilty, then I went to class. Started to read in my book. Inside I read the words "keep going" How could God who knows everything let me do this, unless there really was no such thing as good and bad.

At first I asked for money, I sit in my programming class, look under my chair and I see a wallet. Inside about $250. Could I steal it? No way. So I just gave it to the teacher. Next go to gym class, open up a random locker and find a gold chain inside hanging on the clothing hook. Gave it to the teacher. I was still "testing" these powers. This girl was selling candy, I didnt want to buy one. I turn around and my frined wrestles me into the corner, messing around. Then turns me around and pushes me away. Then the exact kind of chosen bag of candy gets tossed to me from the principal as I get pushed away. EVERYTHING I asked for was given to me.

Lighting quick awareness of surroundings happened, when I would speak it would be as if drop down menus with words appeared in my head.

I just bought a 04 corvette. Im going to college for free. Getting perfect grades in school.

Im asking if it is ok if I get a girlfriend? Will she really love me if I control her? Is it ok to sway her into having sex?

Can I get suggestions.

Well, Iv recieved the universal command, and instructions on how to implement visions into reality.

So I wanted to try this on a girl. She goes to my school but I dont even know her. Shes very attractive.

Then within an hour, at complete RANDOM she comes to me in the halls and asks me out. I don't know why I did it, but I declined her request, nicely.

She normally says ok and walks away. Im happy in my mind thinking wow, I made this happen. Next day, she starts crying, saying shes attracted to me and can't stop thinking about me. She says that I mean everything to her.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?

[Its a feeling not a thought]

quote:Originally posted by Zarklon

If you could comment on exactly what you feel , how tired/awake your mind and body was at the time you did this , what you felt at the time , what you thought about to get to that experiences, and anything else that you can think of.. it would really help people to understand what it was and/or how to do it for themselves.  Also I'm curious , how did you end it.. did you wake up in the bed or did you wake up standing somewhere that you went physicaly while watching from all the dimensions or what exactly?  

I'm not trying to put you down or anything but if it was a dream then I know how believable dreams can be.. believe me I have a hard time telling them from reality a lot.  Also , false awakenings might have happened also , waking up to go to the bathroom might have been where you had the false awakening/concious-OBE and all that started only in the astral.  Sounds like you were able to latch on to all the astral bodies somehow also if that experience was legit. Can you elaborate greatly on every single sensation you can remember feeling prior to , while , and after the experience?  

Thnx , take care

I was completely awake, not tired. I was walking around, I didn't get the traditional OBE. Because my mind and body was completely awake. I can do this at school too.

I have done this many times and have come to these consclusions about it.

1. I do not try to OBE, I do not want to OBE. Rather I just do it.

2. I think of nothing, no sensations, my thinking calms down and focuses.

3. I have learned that thinking of something isn't effective, rather feeling something works.
Feelings are the language of higher beings. Not words or thoughts.

When I get a certain feeling, my body automatically calms down, I feel relaxed and very focused. Its a feeling not a thought!!!

Then I start to lose myself in a sense. Well I will word it better. I "realize" my greater me. Instead of being aware of me as in contained in my body, I realize me as my body, and as other places. When I watch from a conscious point of view such as from my body, my brain has a hard time analyzing whats happening, but from the point of view of my full being, which is out of body. Things are as clear as my speed of thought. I can be and do anything and be anywhere at the speed of thought with much clarity. So there is a bodily me, then multiple OBE's of me. At the same time. While I am fully conscious and walking around and doing stuff.

I can keep the experience as long as I can keep the feeling. So to get out of my experience I simply stop feeling and start "thinking" then my brain starts to reset and analyze everything, then Im back into my body.

quote:Originally posted by antoon19

Hello Blueflame.
            Is there any guid lines as to the how you go multi dimentional it is worth knowing ,

To access multiple planes at the same time, you would have to have significant control over your OBE access then modify the experience to expand to multiple planes.

For beginners I do not think this is worth knowing at this point, rather you should first focus on getting the first OBE.

The synergistic process I use, is multiple conscious OBEs and existances.

quote:Originally posted by mazdaaf

wow thats so freakishly awesome! how to you keep track of all the different "yous" though? like, are you thinking 9 different thought processes at once? making me dizzy thinking about it @_@

When you are not in your body, you move at the speed of thought, and can fully attend and remember all states. Only when you are awake and see the real and astral at the same time, is when you can get confused. Like you have a hard time finding out what is real and what is not.

quote:Originally posted by HonChi

After four years of research and discovery, Joseph Plazo of xtrememind.com has released his "crowning achievement", the ultimate Deep Mind composition called Deep Mind Ultra.  It is a 15min sound file that consists of 3 main parts:

1. binaural beats & pure sine waves to stimulate lower chakras (torso) for energy rush
2. sweeping ultrasonic frequency above 10,000HZ (Tomatic Effect) to help subconscious
3. experimental Abram's Universal Healing frequency to rid body of illness

youre supposed to listen to this with headphones & a radio (presumably loud).  i was wondering if anyone has had experience with Deep Mind or knows whether or not Deep Mind Ultra would aid in astral projection? also, feel free to test it and post results or talk about all things xtrememind.com!

Its just an mp3 version of the bwg file. Which means much lower quality.

Took a few days

kenshinhan604:

Ofcourse my horse.

I can move pencils, pens. Psi wheel, knives, cds, and much MUCH more.

TheLuns, I recieved the PM that you sent to me like a month ago. You attempting to channel manifestation through magick?

Occult magick is just normal manifestation with all the other useless materials.
The candles, latin sayings and other stuff is useless.

I am proof, I have made infinite instant manifestation of my desire without using any of the concepts of traditional magick. There is no such thing as evil or demons. There is only ONE and that is the universe. Which is beyond the good/bad barrier. It is God who gives everything to you, even those which you call "good/bad."

You want to use magic essentially to control others. First off, why would you want to ruine their plan? Those whos lives are terrible with addictions and other issues, they were given that type of life from the universal. You are making judgements on them and wanting to change others. That is fighting their will.

Rather speak to those who you worry about and give them influence to change their lives. Manifestation will not help them.

quote:Originally posted by featus

This is a rather philosophical question. I have always been a firm believer of the "maths is the language in which God talks to man" idea -- everything on this 'physical' plane does, at the end of the day, boil down to fundamental and undisputed mathematical laws.

I was just wondering, for those of you who are familiar with the esoteric concept of 'higher' planes of existence, would mathematical laws apply there as well? Or are these higher planes so beyond mere human comprehension that any occurences there are above mathematical reasoning, in which case the concept of mathematics would be a 'shell' of sorts to keep everything on the physical plane in order?

I know it's a lot to ponder, but maths always seems to fill me with a strange sense of wonder and I thought this might be the place where I would get some opinions..

There is only threeness in oneness.

Here, there and inbetween, trinity. In our plane of existance there is math, time or what is "relativity."

There is cause and effect, which does not change, as well as organized patterns of refreshing energy which makes our planes. This is organization not mathematics, as there is only one.

There is an infinite amount of planes of existances, in infinite combinations. But the higher your plane of existance the more pronounced "oneness" becomes. The farther you go out of our universe the more ONE it becomes forever more.

In higher planes, there is only you, infinite or/and one of you. You experience that which you are through that which you are and are not.

As what you call mathematics labels an impossibility. Because your measures of your measures may be incorrect. As everything is infinitely different.

Mathematics is a small science of simply the inapproximate analyzings of similarity and continuity in the human mind.

So if you were to use an approximate form of mathematics or measurements of the infinite. It would be the following.

Infinity in infinite combinations, yet being ONE at the same time, beyond the time barrier and existance barrier.

quote:Originally posted by ChristianMagick

Hello Iv been studying Christian mysticism and Stuff like that for some time now. Iv been reading the Key of solomon and stuff. But What Is really furstrating is I want to do witchcraft But i dont wanna Say Stuff to like other gods cause im a christian witch .
 I wanna know how someone Who beleives in God how can they do magick ? And if anyone in here is familiar of what im talking about , how Can a Christian do magick?
 GOD BLESS YOU ALL
   See ya
     Albert

yeah, your looking for something called prayer.

Could someone explain how thinking positive can actually help you? The stated "benefits" seem more of an illusion rather than a consistant advantage over negative/no thought.

Well, Now I can control this setting, where I exist on multiple planes while being awake.

This is what happens, I OBE, then I am not just one. I am 9, with 9 personalities and astral existances at the same time. I am one, yet I am many. I move at the speed of my thought. I am everywhere at once in this plane.

This is so cool. [][]

I dont have that nagging feeling anymore. I was told that good and bad do not exist. Maybe it applies only to me.

Regarding the technology on others, it wouldn't be rape. Maybe I would just like to be friends.

quote:Originally posted by beavis

kazbadan, I wouldnt want to stop it if that happened to me.

blueflame, other than demanding to see something amazing, what did you do to cause that? Can you do it again?

Yes I can do it again, but there isn't something to "do" to get there. I just become there.

Its hard to explain, but with me, I just focus on it then I am there in minutes.

btw, is it normal to have these kind of experiences? It is common/existant?

He lost my credibility when he called himself a "warrior" to these "negs" which don't even exist.

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

The Universe follows EVERYONE'S commands, not just yours. I'd like to see you end the war in Iraq immediately, and have a stable and benevolent government come into power there. I'd also like to see you end world hunger and get rid of all the injustices in the world and make everyone happy. You should also stop the destruction of the environment. I highly doubt you are able to make all of these things happen. Oh, and if you do these things overnight, then I'll believe you. But until then, I take you to be quite dilusional.

Why would I need to prove anything to you. I would have to control the minds of others to do this, wouldn't that be considered evil to you?

Those who suffer and are in war, or in any experience chose what they are to experience in life before they were born. So why would I have to change something perfect, by forcing them into something that they did not choose to be in, by forcing them against their will to experience something they do not want? That would contradict the point to planes of existance.

I also don't need you to believe me, infact the existance of your disbelief of me proves me more correct.

quote:Originally posted by Angelfire

Obviously, you don't really understand what's going on. You're in what I came to call the 'fog'. It's an intensely lucid, pleasant, powerful and positive place, isn't it. Such a wonder! Do you find it slightly addictive? Feel a daily growing craving to use and feel your power almost all the time? There are terrible things just outside the gates of the playground.

Iv used this power my whole life, I have just realized how to consistantly use it.

Its not some power your thinking of, its actually the universe following my commands.

Under its control? lol. Sorry I wont be under its control, rather I control the universal forever more.

Due to all these responses that said its evil, and all these other beliefs of negs. I will just use my technology on women. Since I have recieved no valid arguments.

ehehehehe[]

Was told good and bad no not exist, yet I still have that "nagging" as you say. It seems like I dont trust this source, yet it has never failed me.

But the guilt comes back...

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

I am not sure why you have chosen to post this topic. If you know God, then what made you post here? Your imperfections? It is pointless for you to post this here. Perhaps you are not yet secure with your own beliefs and so you feel a need to get feedback from others, which is understandable.

I stand by my beliefs, as being told that I am incorrect will not prove to me that my beliefs are incorrect. Life has proven my beliefs to be correct. It is in life that I find my answers, and I do not see how I can be incorrect unless my life proves to me that I am incorrect. Therefore, to argue that I am incorrect has no meaning to me, unless supported by factual information.

One must use logic to put forth a valid argument, and I do not see the logic or reasoning of this argument which you have put forth. If you wouldn't mind explaining yourself further, I would like to know the purpose behind your post.

As for my argument, I argue that balance does exist. I base this on many things, including the correct proportionate mixtures of pigments to make certain colors, the correct proportions of sounds and beats to make a coherent and organized array of sounds that fall into rhythmic patterns, which cause a desired emotion within persons of a specified culture, the outcome of which we call music, and I base it on the argument of emptiness and fullness (Yin and Yang). We are all one, yet at the same time, separate. We are not all only one mind. We are one mind and many minds at the same time.

Can you support your argument from tangible evidence? One cannot touch  music, but our senses detect it. Our hands do not always touch color and light, but our eyes see it. What, then, do you base your argument on?

I would like to keep this on topic. If you must, I will explain. Yet what I explain you may not understand. If you think I am "unsecure" of my beliefs for asking third party opinions, you can keep thinking that, infact I hope you do.

[] I will explain.

You say  balance exists.

Lets use color. If we see the color red, it doesn't mean that it is red. Infact infinite amount of possibilities can make it seem red.

I said, balance of the whole must be maintained. You said that balance of "something" in a perfect expression is balance due to its reaction.

For instance. When you see the color red. Red is the perfect mixture of multiple colors and bases. But red can be "red" or it can be everything other than red. What our eyes sense may not be what it actually is. If you would call the organization of red a balance. It is not. Rather red, may be unbalanced, because what you sense as a pefect complex of red, may actually be to the billionth of a pixel not red, but red-purple. Thus your "senses" and the "red" and the "light" and the billions of processes inbetween is unbalanced. So essentially it is a perfectly balanced, unbalance of sensations. Which means that there is no such thing as balance rather EVERYTHING is balance, again as I said, the whole must be balanced or you have no balance, thus it is impossible to not be unbalanced or you may be balanced to be unbalanced. Thus as I said the whole is balance, and never one or the other in any combination alone may be the balance. If it is a pure red, it is not. It is everything other than red, which appears red to you. Similar to my text. Is it the order of my letters that you read this? Or is it the order of the white that surrounds my letters that give you the understanding?

Red is red, and it is not. As well as it is and is not everything in between every color/texture and pixel.

So your understanding of balance is unbalanced. Yet it is perfectly balanced to be unbalanced. You are just giving a label to a piece of balanced which is unbalanced.

You can see the balance around the unbalance which you call red, or you can see the perfections around that which you call perfect which is red. But red is not red without everything other than red.

Im guessing you have no idea what I am speaking of. Its ok, because unbalanced people like you are proof to balanced people.

quote:Originally posted by EnderWiggin

I have heard a lot of different things from a lot of different people when they say that they have a connection with God or that God has opened to them fully, etc. Some say "there is no good or bad." Others say "God is pure light and love." I say "God is everything and everyone." Some say that if you know god's name, you can control him. He has never told anyone his name. He only says (according to the Bible) "I am that I am." No one can understand God. All I can understand is the world in which I live, and even then, it is sometimes not clear. So I act in accordance with the world that I would like to live in someday.

The meaning of life is live. Live your life and you have the meaning you need. You will figure out your purpose and what you are supposed to do. As far as negs go, if I don't want something stealing my energy, for instance, I'll get rid of it in whatever way necessary. But I will not do more than what is necessary. Balance must be maintained, in the physical at the very least. The physical is the vertex at which all other planes meet. Therefore, one should maintain a balance on all planes of existence (there goes my Taoist thinking).

God is who God is not, as well as God is who he is."I am that I am" in that respect the bible is correct, since God is everything and nothing, his non-existance exists in some respects. Regarding these "planes of existance" you seem to be in error. Because being who you are not, does not express who you really are.

EnderWiggin, you are attempting to know something that you will never know, because to know everything means you are to know nothing in every possibility.

No matter what you do, you are moving in stillness. There is infinite amount of entities more advanced than you, yet there is an infinite less advanced than you. So ender, you can't just enter a plane of existance. You are forever more in your current plane of existance in the enternal now. What you are now is who you really are. Unless you move, into something that which you are not. Which can either serve you, or not server you in the experience of who you really are.

This balance you speak of, is also incorrect. As what needs balance and that which surrounds it is one. So you either balance the whole or not.

Yes, it was God im communicating with. Not some evil force your weak imaginations have made up.

I have never EVER come under a neg attack. Always perfection. I have never suffered punishment.

How can the universe contradict itself? Your neg belief is certainly flawed.

quote:Originally posted by kakkarot

so she no longer thinks you're God? and she no longer likes-you-due-to-your-spell?

~kakkarot

I think she is afraid of me, because I explained to her that I controlled her.

She seems depressed.