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#1
Hello everyone!

I wanted to know what are the differences between an OBE and AP...

the differences I know:

    when out on AP you get to the Astral plane, while on OBE you get to the phisical plane. you can get through OBE to other planes.

    when on OBE you are actually "invisible" and can see\hear things in the phisical pane, while the Astral plane is different from the phisical, and you cannot see/hear things from the phisical.

    when AP you are less clear and have more chance to fall into the "Alice effect", while on the OBE you are more clear, and less chances for that to happen.


correct me if im wrong at any of this.
and if anyone knows any more differences, please note them here.

have a nice day!

#2
WOW!!!
when I got to the end of the last page... I almost cried that it's over!

it's sooo beautifull!!

good job you guys... [8D]

I have a pic that I did not saw over here... I use it as my AVATAR...

#3
Thank you... Ill try to read it whenever I can...
I just have to many books to read, most of them are about AP&OBE [:D]
and my time at school is not very helpfull [:P]
#4
hy,

I guess the RTZ is actually the etheric plane? because it is closer to
the phisical plane.

I read a few books, and didn't saw the turm "RTZ" at any of those...
#5
Thanks for the warm welcome [:D]

The reason I believe in that theory:
the soul doesn't need to get inside an unborn body.
what will she do in there? sit around and wait to be born?
boring!
lol... theories [:P]
#6
Hello.
Im new in here, nice forum!
I have been expiriencing AP through Lucid dreams, for about 2 Years.
Nice to meet you all [8D]

back to subject:
the soul does not enters the body of the baby untill he is born.
not that there is a proof... [xx(]
there are a lot of theories about it...