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Zing.

Sir, I haven't yet had a chance to post any of my poetry.

I discovered this by accident.
Somehow this set off the mind awake/body asleep condition needed for an OBE.

Leylaness, maybe so, dude.

What I've come to learn is that an early night's sleep is not condusive to achieving the requisite state of  mind/relaxation.

I get my best OBE results when I'm over-tired and go to sleep too late. Or when I suffer from insomnia until sunrise or so--that's when all sorts of good hypnagogig stuff starts to happen.

Cheers, Big Ears.

So, if you were to reformat that poem (?) to abide by the rules of haiku, how would you write it?

You've answered my question, Frank--thank you.

More or less it seems that the answer is "yes", but in perhaps a different way than might work in Focus 2.

Cheers!

Every once in a while I'll have a dream in which I have a brief but memorable precognitive experience. Usually I can distinguish these dreams from the run-of-the-mill variety because the moment of precognition is a moment of short-lived lucidity.

The things I see have mostly been insignificant but quite peculiar.

My question is: what is the source of the vision? What aspect of what Focus is the source of this brief-and-insignificant knowledge of the future?

Are the Akashic Records a Focus 2 phenomenon? I've never ever been to a "place" where I've been prompted to go "Aha! There's the Akashic Records!".

Is Focus 3 malleable like Focus 2? For example, if I get to The Park then start fearing negs, will the nasty little critters be created?

From my own experiences, I'd suggest you breathe through your mouth. Have your jaws and lips very slightly apart.

I think too little a fuss is made of breathing, jaw and lip settings during the OBE process (no doubt many will have contrary experiences).

In one of Robert Monroe's books, he mentions (rather insignificantly) that the jaw seemed to act as a "tuning" apparatus or mechanism for the vibrations. In my opinion, this tuning apparatus is very important for the conductivity of the vibrations.

So, I'd say: mouth slightly open, breathe through your mouth (and place your left hand in contact with your stomache area or left leg--I suggest this because nearly all of my OBEs were preceeded with these criteria, though, undoubtedly others might suggest to you that it doesn't matter).

Mind you: While I've had many OBEs, they've really pretty much only been spontaneous, occuring after regaining consciousness at some point during naps or a night's sleep. And, as for the rate of my breathing, it's usually been quick once the vibrations have been strong enough to project.

Mind you: I'm just a lurker on this forum and have no mana here.

Leprechaun--

That's a familiar situation you're in.

I'm no expert, but I doubt that learning to project will give you the sort of results you're looking for. However, it will most certainly offer other rewards. Patience and persistence must be your friends.

In the meantime, may I suggest that you investigate getting involved with such sanctuaries as music (as in learn how to play a guitar), theater (as in acting) and the visual arts (if you're not already)? You're not alone; dabbling in these areas may help you realise that.

And for your own sake, avoid listening to either Pink Floyd or Leonard Cohen.

Thanks for that, Mike.

Upon reflection, I think that it was potential "grotesqueness" that made me flee from the opportunity. I didn't want to see a child who'd been slain in a nasty way in a bad car crash, or something.

I will not chicken out again, should the opportunity arise again.

Regarding my wife: I'm sorry I wasn't clearer with my original thread post--our synchronistic experiences have got her suspending her disbelief.

Thank you for the link to Bruce Moen's site--I'd never heard of the site before, but look forward to having a good look!

Regards,
FH

Around last weekend, I had an experience which almost compelled me to write a post here asking for advice. I decided against it in favor of "just letting it go".

However, yesterday my wife and I went on a business trip which required several hours of driving and an overnight stay--which my wife was looking forward to due to an unrestful past week. She struck up an interesting conversation, so I have decided to ask for advice from AP members after all.

As my wife snores when she sleeps, we not too infrequently sleep in separate rooms. This past week she's been sleeping with the light on. During our conversation yesterday, she told me she'd been sleeping with the light on because she had a ghostly-scare: she awoke in the middle of the night to see two shimmering, ghostly figures in the doorway. One like an adult, the other shorter, smaller. They shimmered like energy. They were moving from down the hallway (where my room is), then zipped past, towards our courtyard. As they did, she told them (or thought to tell them--I'm not sure which), "No, wait, it's okay!". She then got the sense that they were waiting for something (outside, in the courtyard), although the "energy" was no longer visible.

While they were still visible, she received the impression from them that "something was wrong" and that "they were waiting for something".

After quietly listening to her story, I then told her of my story from around the same time frame (don't know if it was the same night or not, but within a couple of days, at least).

My story is that I was in a non-visual sort of dreamstate, or pre-REM state. In my mind was the voice of someone, like a mother, talking about how much she loved her child. She was repeating how much she loved her child. As she did, I was getting the impression that her child had, well, died, and was just waiting--didn't know where to go. My impression was that the child was just waiting, sitting on a park bench.

All of this was just sort of like my idle-thought process and I doubt I'd remember any of it if I hadn't then abruptly separated and Gone Out into the RTZ (which is the way it happens to me now, on those now infrequent times when I spontaneously project I no longer seem to feel the vibrations first).

I had the sense that if I were to just look over to my left, I would see the child who was in need of post-death guidance (or a "retrieval", I've since learned the term is). But I didn't want to see a "dead" child. As a parent, that sort of thing terrifies me. So, I quickly returned back to the physical, and "let it go", forgetting about it until late the next morning, or some time during the afternoon--when I suddenly remembered it and became rather disappointed that I had not been brave enough to go with the experience.

Now my wife, a deliberate non-believer in "this sort" of thing, has been trying to deny what she has witnessed with her eyes (despite her subsequent loss of sleep because of it) and I've been experiencing my own feelings about what I experienced. But we had gone days, keeping our own respective secrets until our conversation yesterday, and it just seems pretty likely to us that our experiences were, well, quite possibly related.

I don't normally discuss the subject with my wife, although I've been interested and practicing for twenty years or so; she has nothing to offer on the subject.

Nonetheless, she is haunted by the sense that there is still a "spirit" or "spirits" waiting, waiting for us to do something (as per her request for them to "wait!"). And I'd like a chance to redeem myself, having chickened out from what may have been my first opportunity to do something useful while out-of-body.

Mind you, I am not skilled at inducing OBEs--they've mostly been spontaneous.

My question is, what should we do now?

Regards.
FH