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When you arrive at that state where you can sense the vibrations use the counting method to lift off... When I arrive at that state I count backwards from 10 to 1 then I open my inner eye's, then I lift my hands to see then, then I simply use "intent" to lift off.

This always works for me; except for once, I had finished my counting to 1 and  could not open my inner eye so I counted again with the intention of counting from 5 to 1 and as I reached the count of 3 I found my awareness lift or expand to the ceiling of my room. Thereafter, it was just a matter of surfing...

Test it out... hope it works for you.

Bye.

Welcome to the site...

I am also new but not new at AP's/OBE's.

There's a weatlh of information in these forums that I am sure can assist you with most of your questions.

Hiprider, I still experience Paralysis On and off; And when I it happens I use it as a tool to go deeper into relaxation until I reach a point that I can project. I believe It is simply the initial stages of Total Relaxation. Well It works for me.

Good luck.

sometimes I find it difficult to penetrate solid objects, also!

This is what I do: pull back a little and boost my confidence level(Intent)which I believe increases my vibratory flux and Wala, through the door I go.

The Cd will definitely help...Theta brain waves(4-7 cycles per second) is the state that you need to arrive at to lift off!

"A session a day will keep the doctor away";

When I started(became serious about it) I did 3 sessions 20 minute intervals a day. Amazing results...

Hey, I have done Astral's/OBE's etc. and have never seen a cord! Hm!

Probably I will someday!

We live in a Universe of unlimited possibilities; Unfortunately, only a few of us realize that.

"A man of knowledge is one who has followed truthfully the hardships of learning.  A man who has, without rushing or faltering, gone as far as he can in unraveling the secrets of personal power."
~ Journey To Ixtlan, Carlos Castaneda ~

OK! I'll checkout your Web site!

But I am curious... send those techniques to me too... Can't promise you anything but who knows hopefully will be able to embed a few within my Techniques.

email:naldo@belizeweb.com

Yap! I've read them; a while back when I was living in California.
But I do not remember much about them. great stories and dimensions of reality.

I know how it feels; This use to happen to me before a lot... to find out that I can lift & see my hands but thats it, cant do more than that, right.

I believe that the problem is on the level of relaxation you are in at the time of the attempt.

When you do meditation, do you use auto suggestions??? Well I do.

Well, this is what I do; I begin by hynotizing myself(Self Hypnosis)... to fully relax the body...(You can use any method) then I stay mentally quiet(eliminate internal dialog)... slowly and slowly I begin to drift into slumber...(relaxation is intensifying). suddenly, My awareness, kicks in(Feeling of paralysis)and I begin to count backwards from 10 to 1 to drift deeper and deeper into the trance state. When i get to one, I can easily lift my hands to see them and if my intent to lift off does not function, I do the counting again. but now  from 5 to 1. This time I go so deep that without trying (intent) I find my self floating close or above my ceiling.

Hope this works for you.

One way is to utilize Hypnotic Suggestions or auto suggestion.

The more relaxed you are, the more effective the suggestion becomes...

Involuntary paralysis can be achieved by repeating the intent constantly either fully awake (BETA brain state) or in a relaxed state (ALPHA Brain State). I use both and it has been fully effective for me.

Acquiring  information regarding the implications of "repetition" and "Hypnosis" was enough for me to begin with.

A good resource on "The logical implications of Repetition" is by Author - Shad Helmstetter, "What to say when you talk to yourself" and for Hypnosis/self hypnosis, well, I have read may books on the topic and would recommend all.

According to Shad, repetition is the key to transformation;
My conclusion is that  the amount of repetition will always be proportional to the brain wave state. For example, Hypothetically speaking, in a:
BETA(14-40 cycles per second) state you might need to repeat the suggestion 1000 times;
ALPHA(7-14) state you might need to repeat the suggestion 100 times;
THETA(4-7) state you will need to  repeat the suggestion 10 times;
DELTA(1-4)state you will need to say the  suggestion 1 time to cause the corresponding effect you desire.

For Now, find the appropriate suggestion and right before you fall asleep keep repeating it several times.

I Use something like this:

"right before I drift into deep sleep, I will realize that I am falling asleep and will induce paralysis."

When I get to the point of paralysis, I simply count backwards from 10 to 1 to bypass Paralysis and enter into the Astral/visualization state. This has always functioned for me; Hope it works for you.

Hm! I have never attempted to OBE's from within a Lucid Dream...

I should try it someday.

quote:Originally posted by loco

I really cannot think about attempting an obe from somewhere else but a dream

How about this then:

Through Self Hypnosis I induce OBE's;
Through Dreams I induce Lucidity;

I'm pretty certain that those are not the only ways to cause an effect on the predetermine objective.I am sure there are many other a ways of inducing OBE's as well as LUCID dreams...

Happy dreaming folks...

quote:
As i completly forget where i readed that, and i am completly unable to do self-hypnosis while awake (and it doesn't exist

Hypnosis happens while you are fully conscious and aware while your entire body is fully or totally relaxed.

The goal is to relax yourself with whatever technique you use and then give yourself the appropriate suggestions.
Important: Repetition is key to cause an effect, physiologically.

I hope this helps...

"Everything is possible":

Really, is everything possible;

As in everything in the Physical Plane possible.

Hey!

Whatever little help you can get!

Juggling will definitely be included in my daily to do things.

Thanks for that one Nagual! Oh! as you can see didnt change the name.

Bye.

I have Read and heard about this before! Being in two distinct places concurrently;Like having a twin, but in this case knowing what the other one is doing. NEAT!

SO you can percieve simultaneously 9 levels of existence. and probably you are doing 9 different things simultaneously,in that state, right! Just to illustrate: In the Physical Plane you could be eating an apple; In the Astral plane you could by witnessing a futuristic event; in another plane you could be acquiring some useful data, etc. etc. and doing these things all at the same instant... Is this what you mean and if so;

WOW!Thats POWER!

Teach me!!!!!

Hi Strwrs_guru,

Yap! you are on the right track. We are all connected.

Check out the Holographic Paradigm theory. Very interesting stuff.

Precisely!

The Quantum level is like a different world. or is it? With different rules.

In a nutshell!

So wierd, yet amazing!

According to some scientist the speed of light is relative... Water can slow down light in theory.

Now, At the quantum level its more interesting, again according to some scientist, there is nothing such as distance when you transcend from matter to the subatomic level, everything seems to be in one place . Experiments conducted with splitting electrons indicate that they can communicate  with each other instantaneously, irrespective of locality.

Amazing isn't it?

The power that exists and that can be harnessed is endless...

There is Something about the mind, consciousness, awareness etc. that cannot be explained logically... yet we here stories, we read the books and in every aspect of the example, we find out that something is happening that is contrary to what we have been thought.

I have always believed that the mind is powerful, why? I could not and still cannot explain it; and everytime I pick up a book about the topic, it just enhances and reinforces my cognition.

I have heard about the Placedo Effect from several sources but the only 2 that come to mind, are from Deepak Chopra -  "The Higher Self" and from Michael Talbot - "The Holographic Universe". These are great resources for expanding consciousness.

Well, Like you all, It is amazing, isnt it?

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Cube,

Have you ever tried counting backwards from 10 to 1 while in a totally relaxed state?

If right now you can OBE whithin 5 minutes, then at around 2-3 minutes of relaxation introduce the 10 to 1 procedure, with the intent of your current relaxation state intensifying 1000 folds on every step of the way.

Try it and tell us the results.

Note: That's my current goal... to lie down, stretch, count backwards from 10 to 1 and begin with the astral process. That would be 10-15 seconds.