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Hello well I had another one of those APS where ITs Astral then it becomes lucid but im not sure, everything seemed so real and astral until the end.

Ok, I was sleeping then I was like in a dream so I willed me self out So I got excited and i stapped back, then I tried to leave, and I opened my eyes and found m self on top of the cieling. It was awsome, I was trying to float and everythin. I said to myself, " I ask for Clarity", then i casted a circle. So then I floated out of my Room and into my dad office. Then I went outside. This is where It gets confusing. For some reaosn when im at the ritz in my house I ALWAYS see friends and family there. Maybe they are Guides? Or maybe I made them up? Or something. So anyway I started floating inthe air. It was hard for me at first to fly, but Little by little i was able to fly higher then last time. There was like a friend on the cieling too, cheerin me on i think. Then I went inside, and I decciededd to look at my hands, they were not fading instead they were gettong LONG and going backwards like something was ucking them. So then I went outside, And I wanted to see my Guide, so I called on him, I siad STORM SHOW YOURSELF, and then all of a sudden a Huge white dragon from the sky is flying twords me, he is so huge,it scares me! I hide behind someone infront of me until he coems down, then we he comes down, he look like a fireball. Like a huge white tiger with wings. It was not storm , storm is black and has scales. Anyway, Then my grandma there and she tells me she got him at a birthday party, then we all go inside and eat, and im stil floatng, and in my mind i know im APING. Then I want to go back into my body becausefor some reason i think its school. So i go there and try to look for my body but dont see it, so I just on top of my beed, and say I WILL REMEMER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, then moments later i get sucked in and half a very short false awakening, then i wake up for reals, and rememeber everythign that happened.

Ok now i hate when this happens because it doesnt seem like an OBE because of the extra people and all, but it felt like one, Maybe it was Lucid? but why did then I leave mt body. I need some real help, this is the second time this has happened lol where i leave my body then ot becomes somewhat lucid with extra people and all.

What do you think?

WOW, well I dont know where to start, I had a recent Lucid dream in Mexico like last week, but im proud to say I had an OBE and an LD tonight this morning.

Before goign to bed I was trying to the WILD LD technique, when All of a sudden i start to feel electrical vibes ( iv never felt this before in my life) they were running from my left leg, then a bit to my side then my right leg then my brain or head lol. I woke up here and there during the nights, each time trying to remember my Dream so i can contiintue it when i woke up and so then it will become lucid. Then I woke up in the Early morning about 6 probably, and icouldnt go to bed, my legs didnt feel like staying still. So i switched from postition to position, trying to remember my dreams that night, then decided what the heck im still tired and its way to early to wake up, so i started relaxing and thinking of my last dream getting more into detail tryin to imagine what WOULD happen in my dream, until i like lost though because i dont remember anything and
I saw Tiger eyes in my mind and a Ladies Voice saying roaring with SOUND and Vibrations saying
" I will help you AP just like i did with your early Father"
I got kinda of Scared but then I started feeling very Vibraty, and I started slowly falling out of my body from the side , like rolliing. When i finally did get out I wassss soooo happy because this was my first OBE at WILL the others were like i was sleeping and woke up paralized and willed myself out but thuis one i earned through work through the night []

So I slipped out of my body, and I couldn't really breath so i looked at my body and it looked fine, I decided i never wanted to go back to my body until i felt like it lol, but thatw as a wrong idea and mentalaty to have youll see why.


I decided to look at my mom doing her exercies in the living room to see if she was still doing them, so I think i floated or walked not sure to see her but i dont remember anything, and then I go to the pool and theres other people, and I think it becomes lucid, because im talking to my sister and my friend franky, and my dad sees me and stuff. But I was Lucid all the way [] because then I deicded to go back in the house and do some stuff.

I then saw my dad going to my body ( remember I think I am Lucid because It doesnt feel like an OBE anymore like in the beinning). My dad trys to wake me up but i hold on to the wall while im like being magnatized to my body, then he gives up. For some reason then i think my sister is my body and i ty to mix with her but its impossible so I get kinda worried but i thought itll work later.

I was sooooo bummed because while i was having this lucid dream I thought I was STILL APing like in the beginning. So I casted a Magick circle and my Energy comingfrom my hand was purple. then I decided to get out, and asked my guides to be present, but they told me its not the right time yet. Then I wanted to og somewhere else, So i try finding a portal to leave from to the Astral, but find none so i decided to create my own and step into it and nothin happens. Its also really hard for me to go through physical things except for one time when i went through my door.

I could float when I want too so i start floating, but then Kinda bored stuck in my home, I thought of my Friend whos known here as TKMAN i think, and he said he used to fly and zoom, so I decided to do that, so i go to the back yard, and Run and jump but i cnat FLY!!!!!! and then my dad from the window, looks at me. Im like what the heck!!! I thought this was an OBE everyone knows me . And then Im starting to wake up and im exicted so I can write it down.

Then here i am lol

From what I know this expeirence WAS an OBE in the beginng which was done by a technique, then turned lucid when i went into the pool. I just know when its an OBE and a LD, because In an OBE i dont look at myself from afar, i am the person in an OBE. and in a LD it doesnt really seem so Vibraty and Energetic and REAL.

I hated how in my OBE i couldnt fly anywhere or do anything miuch. Just float around, Maybe im have to get used to it because maybe it was like that because i was mixing it with an OBE?

Why wasnt I able to do the things I tried, like go to the Astral by looking for  a portal? was it because it wasnt an OBE just an LD.

There are major diffrences from an OBE and LD in m opinion, and Since maybe I was trying to do things  a normal person would do in an  OBE, maybe thats why nothign worked cus it was lucid?

WHo was the tiger lady who talked to me before i left my body?

My last Question is it possible to to have an OBE then your OBE turns LUCID???

Thanks for anyone who helps me ![]

Blessings

OBE

Laying in bed
the dizzness hurting my head
Cant take the buzzing
its surprising
My body stilled
I think Im killed
Im floating out
I cant come out
im stuck between
whats unseen
i move my hand
It comes out

I start to float
out my throat
I see my body
like its somebody
Im feeling afraid
but im not scared

I movee beyond my bedroom window
i see my Neighbor Mr. Findow
Im floating now as you can see
further out to where i have not seen

Im in a place where love is found
I see this is wheree my heart is bound
Im going further deeper deepper
i know this place is a keeper

I see two beings one white and gold
the other green but the other color untold
They say there my Guides from the otherside
Can i beleive them, Or should i backaside
The beings start speaking
i can't understand there talking
I left them while i kept walking
i know there here to help me be
I just cant see why there after me

I find my self back in my room
I start going down to my cacoon
slowly slowly i start to sink
slowly slowly while remembering my trip

I wake up at noon
why did it have to end so soon
was it real or was it  dreamed
this mystery will never be seen
that was the day i OBED

Everytime I try to manipulate energy and i look at my hands especially when i put my fingertips kinda close to eachother and imagnie switching enery frmo one hand to the next, i see silvery white lightning type threads flowing from my fingers kinda like electricyt but in white form. Can someone please explain what this is?

Thank you
and Blessings!

I´m here in mexico at my grandmas house, so i havnt done ANY astral projection exercise. But recently Iastral projeted. I woke up and i was still and not moving, and decided to ap all of a suddden i shot up infront of my body, and i could barly ONLY see the bed but it was the beed on the other side. so i was just floating feel all vibraty in the same spot. I cuuldnt see anytyhing or move. it was like my astral body was frozen or paralized.

my question is why couldnt I see or move?

then i had another experiecne but i dont know if it was astral or lucid. So it all started me in a haunted house and im like forget this and my dream i think turtned lucid and i started shooyting fireballs at the zombies and i jumped out the window and started fluying., it felt so cool, i would fly up and dwown and zoom down and up. Then i went down and decided to casyt a circle so i cast the cirtcle and there was this awsome ring of red fire around me, then i decided to stick my hands inside the earth, and i did, then i broke the magick crcle and i started flying again this time i was thinking if this is lucid i want to manifest a lolipop in my hands but nothing happened probbaly cus i was to busy flying. then while i was flying i wanted to transform in a dragon, s i started feeling my dragon wings an body but my paws never deleoped lol so i gave up on that. Then i looked at my hands and they looked ll wierd, like if i was passing a huge magnifying glass over them like they were pulsating getting small and bigger, very wierd. Then i remebered soeone from the astral prulsewanted to see the core, so i dove inside the earth until i reached the core witch was instaný anf i just saw a huge red fire ball. Then i woke up

I dont think it was astral projection because  it didnt feel real,like astral projection, it feel like lucid more cus i felt all normal but not like my astral bdy like all floaty nd so on, and i couldnt feel the wind or anything. i shoulda APED from the lucic dream but at the time i thought i was APING and was too busy flying arund and experimenting. It was fun and I was so happy i was able to expereice a LONG lucid dream.

Blessed be

Heres my Expeirience, It wasnt the best because I cant tell if it was lucid or real.

I was sitting down on top of a real castle. And I was talking to someone who lived there, And I wanted to fly so I started floating but God kidna scared because of the sensation and i stapped back into my body. I tried to AP again by Pulling my concious into my forhead and gettin out from there it almost worked but then again it didnt. I hvant tried to AP for a long time and im glad this happened, Now im gonna try to ap everynight.

Hello Last night I do not know whether i was Aping or Lucid dreaming, but i was really incontrol of everything.

I do not know how I got out of my body, but when I did My body started sqirming but i left to go outside. Man I flew up and started flying At WILL it felt good, then I thought really hard what I wanted to do, So i decieed i wanted to see my Guardian who is a Dragon, but when I thought about it all of a sudden a HUGE white TALL cat Manifested, and I was worried becayse that wasnt my guardian dragon. DOES THIS MEAN MY DRAGON DOESNT EXCIST? anyways. Then I saw a mean faery come up to me and leave, I was on my backyard but there were ALOT of people swimming in my pool so then again it was wierd because Its only 4 pople in my family. So Yeah it was kinda Wierd. Can anyone explain

Why there were so many people in my pool ?
Why I couldnt contact my Guardian Dragon?
why I couldnt transport to places while thinking of where i wanted to go?

Or maybe it was just all lucid and maybe thats why?

Please help.. Thanks []

Last Night I was trying to Astral Project. Later in the process While my hands were on my side and i was laying down, my hands felt like they were moving, I would think in my mind Where i wants my hands ( not arms) to move. It ws wierd, like I felt my Pysical hand plus my astral hand moving but not my psyical hand moving.

I really do wish I could of Aped , I lifted my hand but when i opend my eyes i saw I wasnt Aping

Hello Everyone Heres my Third astral Expeirnce i need FEED BACK!
Ok This was a very wierd expiernce.

I Woke up Very Vibraty lol and I willed myself out. I started floating infront of my favorite blanket on my wall, and willed myself to get inside it.... I couldnt. I then decicded to go through the wall... I couldnt, something physical was prevernting me. Then I Went to my bookshelfs and I drew a circle of protection Greenish/Blue/Red energy covered me in a circle for a bit. I tried to go through the wall but couldnt. I floated up the ciling and through the all but couldnt . Oh and while i did my circle i tried saying the conjuration but Nothinig came outa my astral voice as if i were mute. I got tired and decided to see how my body looks like. I remember not to starte at the body to long as this can lead to serious problems i read. so i undid the covers and There was my body sleeping. All of a sudden The MY BOdies arm graves me by my astral neck and i stap back into my body.

1sr question: How is it possible for my physical Body to grave me ( astrallly) ?

2nd: Why couldnt I speak ?

3rd: why couldnt i go through walls?

I was very incontrol of this whole OBE But I dont think its lucid as i was in the real time zone definatly As my room looked exactly as it is.

Need feedback! thanks!

Hello everyone

Today I decided to do a tarot spread on why I am not able to Astral Project.

This is what I got

1 card means the spiritual aspect
2 card means the physical aspect
3 card means overall

1 card ( spiritual aspect) : I got THE STAR
2 card ( physical aspect ) : I got the 2 of WANDS
3 card ( over all ): I got Temperance ( reversed)

I dont have any book that shows interpretation , so I was wondering if there was someone here who knows alot about the tarot who can give me the interpretation. I looked at the interpetation in on book i got but it makes no sense.

I appriciate the help

God Bless

Hello MusterSeed [].

 Iv been reading posted and Saw your replies and stuff. I just had A few Questions, I would of PM you but My account isnt working much.

From the looks of it you are a Christian ( so am I), But I think i also heard you talk about Astral projection and lucid dreaming and psychic stuff not sure. I also try to practice those stuff mostly metaphysical stuff.

I was just wondering if you can share with about your Beelifs or Religeon, because you seem to know ALOT about scripture and at the same time firm of your beleifs and also practicing Astral projection I think right?

My main question is if your a christian do you think Astral projection is wrong, do you beleive in 1 evill who controls all other evil ( satan?).

Im Just wdonering Because Im kinda lost in my belifs because I want to be christian but then everyone else tells me what im doing is wrong and against God.

Thanks

God Bless

Ok, i practice Astral projection almost every time before bed. Iv only Astral projected 2 times unwillingly, i just woke up outa my body. Why is it I cant astral project at will, and why Am i nt being able to astral project more times.

Also when you reply please tell me how many times you Astral project a week.

Thanks! []

God Bless

Hello everyone, Dont know if you remember me. My Names Albert and im 14 years old. I posted like last month one of my astral expeiences hjere my second one and I hope ig et to have more not next month but maybe tonite []

Before going to bed I Imagined a Chariote in my thrid eye. I got on the chariot and imagined it was taking me out of my body. Nothing happened just vibes. I went to bed. I woke up in the middle of the night 12:34 to get a drink of water. I went back to bed I couldnt sleep at all, 1 hour passed still coudlnt sleep. Then somehow I was like border line awake And I remeber Willing my astral body to get out of my physical body. It  happened! I was Floating on top of my Body looking at the corner of the wall lol . I floated a bit higher. I read it Robert bruces book that he was able to go in a pciture when he astral projected. well i have a blanket with stars and moons and I wanted to go in but found out i couldnt It would just get bigger the closer i got and if i got any closer i would go through the wall maybe but i didnt try. I got in themiddle of my room now. I forgot to cast a circle or do something for protection before attepting to astral project so I got kinda of worried somethign was gonna pop out in my room. So Then i hold my hand infront of me with my index finger out and went around in a circle and said I CONJURE YOU!!! i saw greenish. Whitist light coming out of ym finger but it wasnt bright. Then After i said i Conjure you i said te vigos collim .... I was suspposed to say in the name of jupiter father of gods i conjure you te vigos cosolim, but i got mixedd up cus i was worried and just wanted protection at the time. WEll since i was worried and plus I was happy, I jsut ran back to my body lol to meld with it and then I wake up right when my body staps back lol.

I wish i would been longer out but I remember my friend telling me when you are a beginner try not to stay to long out of your astral body. Im glad i remembered everything that happened. And i hope I am able to do it at will today or something.

I also have a crystal next to my bed maybe that helped a bit... also Idont want to get scared in the astral anymore lol i wasnt scared scared just nervous becayse you know dragons, faeries, spirits, demons lol could of poped out of nowwhere. I told my Friend why he didnt explore that much when he astral projected and i would tease him... now i know how it feels to be in the astral and worried sometimes at the same time.... I nvr used to be worried,,, But I think everyone should have protection before attempting it just in case.

Overall I loved it! and It was great... When i shouted I connjure you te vigos cosolim If felt Like i was in slow motion and when i first left my body it felt like slow motion in a bit.. is that normal??

After I astral projected i was so happy it made it worse to sleep so i deiced to go on astral pulse and type my expierence but i couldnt because i forgot my username .. so i waited till the morning like right now before school to type this and now i have to go soon to school lol.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and reply []

God bless

Magus89

Hello, Im not a Wiccan and recentlyMy Friend told someone about me, that I do Magick and stuff, Well this Girl thinks she is strong and all that in magick, and for some stupid reason she wants to battle lol . Just to be on the safe side, does anyone have any small spells, or like stuff to protect against spells and stuff just for the sake of it. ?

Thanks
  God bless

Hello, Today I woke up, and Didn't go to school because I was sick. So i went back to take a nap, and I was trying to Astral project, My mind would start wandering and then I would think of Aping and the APing sensation was stronger. Then I dont know if I feel asleep or If i was still trying to AP but I remember My nose was like Buzzing, and I started floating, it was such a cool expeirnce, I was Astral projecting, But I couldnt really see with my eyes that much, but I could see my Michea the Archangel statue infront of me, since I was like Laying down hovering over my body, and my body buzzing Actually my nose, I looked at my cloth, and i saw I had extra cloth on me, so i figured maybe my mom put on me extra cloth, but still was wierd, then I decided to hover down, so i started imagining going lower, and I could feel myself going lower. Then I couldnt breath much cus my nose was stuffy and I was sick and so I snorted so i could clear my Psychical nose, and I almost snapped back to my body, I kept concentrating, but then i staped back and woke up thjinking COOOL!!!!!!!!, Then i just feel asleep again, and when I woke again And I saw i had my normal sleep cloth and Im all like WHAT!!???

So thats why Im wondering if I was Aping, It felt like I was and everyting although I couldnt see much all dark even though there was light in my room. and then Im hvaing doubts because i saw my psychical body wearing diffrent cloth.

Can anyone help and reply???

Thanks
 God Bless

Hello, I have a Few  Questions on Tools.

You see Im trying to get my tools ready, because I want to practice
Summoning Spirits ( good ones) such as angels and olympic spirits.
The kinstantinos book calles for a Very WIERD hard wand to make, and
Goblet with shaped as a crocus and a T shaped athame.

Is it Possible for my to use any Goblet i feel is right? such as a
Wine Glass? and For the Wand to cut the Wand from a tree and use
that, intead of the one with the ACORN top? And for the T shaped
athame, can
I just use a Nomral Knife, thatI feel will do the job?  I wil Still
be writting the Symbols on the objects though.

but will the objects I choose  Work? Or does it have to be the ones
that The books call for?

And as the tool for evocation, can i just use my black Cauldron, Its
kinda small though, but when i put water its putchess black. And If
i can how big does it have to be or does size matter?

thanks

Whats your Technique rastus for AP []

Thanks TkMan and Rastus! []

anyone wanna answer me questions?[]

I take that back, not everythign was the same as i saw a book on my shelf i dont have lol .

Thanks!!!! you guys

Hey silversinset your good at this, thanks for taking the time to do that.

Kiauma Thanks for the link its so helpful!

Blessings!

Yes! The method seems Very accurate. I can relate to my second Astral projection Session. I couldnt sleep And i tossed and turned and tried to until I wasnt comfortbale and I was hot and sweating i couldnt stand it so I forced my astral body to depart and it happened in 2 seoncds!

thanks for this methood

Well I dont have pictures of me But i do have some saved. This is my room and Alter.

I agree, I think its some sort of Neg(s). Maybe just in case you should do some sort of banishment or get rid of it.... just in case.

Hope this doesn't happen again

Blessings

Oh and I forot, I dont know much about chakras and energy at all.

But I have heard and know of people who actually think there are going to be demons in the move thretres preventing them from seeing the momvie the passion of christ. Maybe someone Created a negtive force or something, Because Im sure If someone beleives there will be an evil spirit in the movie thetre then maybe those evil spirits will be there because they were invited in a way. Maybe they werejust messing around to get you scared.

I have heard stories of people shocked by the movie or some guy died while watching it but i think it was because He was old.

This is just what I heard.

God Bless