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That was "phasing". You said you never phased during this whole experience, but what you posted above was a Phase session and a successful one at that. Don't get caught up in the "labels". Just don your "explorer's hat" and go experience!

Hold on, now this confuses me about what phasing is versus the "typical" OBE. In this experience it was more like daydreaming, I was "seeing" everything in my mind's eye, aware I was sitting in my office chair but not totally dissociated from my physical body. In the OBEs I've had in the past, I logically know I am laying down "sleeping" but I am walking around in a 3 dimensional environment with all my senses intact and it is as vivid and real as waking life. Are you saying it exists more like a spectrum where daydreaming is like a mini-phase versus the typical immersive OBE is a full on dissociated phase?

Very interesting experience I wanted to share. I tried your doorway technique Lumaza today during a break at work. Just laid back in my chair and closed my eyes and imagined the first door and almost immediately the scene took on a life of it's own. I'd be presented with one door after another and would need to inspect how each one looked. The first several ones were locked, I found a key in my pocket, inspected the key, tried it in the door and it didn't work. A vortex of air brought me up into the upper atmosphere in space. I looked around the empty void of space and asked for another door and inspected that one. Eventually a portal opened beneath my feet and I was back on the ground. Then I was going through doorways in my office. First door to the past, a scene plays out of me as a young child playing in the backyard of my first house peeling the bark off the trees pretending it's "chicken". The door to the present has me looking at myself going through the door. The door to the future leads me underwater?? After this last one the scene basically stops and I get an intuition I'm done. I never phased during this whole experience but I got very wrapped up in playing what felt like a little game. It seemed like my task was to inspect each door carefully and take note of it's features and then also take note of each environment I was transported to. I then realized, I used to get lost in daydreaming just like this in school as a teenager and when I'd get bored working in retail.

Thank you for all the feedback and your examples!

Volgerle- As to your comment about having helper encounters. I've made requests several times but have never had a definitive "meeting" per se however, both in waking consciousness and during OBEs I've had inklings they may be there. I've even put out a mental invitation to meet-up for some "astral coffee"

The lessons designed for each of us will have different rule sets and if we stray too far and violate them, the experience ends. Sometimes we are encouraged to fly or dive deep into the ocean, sometimes not. Also, you may find that you get two or three experiences, back to back, in a row...then you know school is in session!

Thank you for your response I was re-reading this again and it brought to mind this unsettled feeling about being in simulated, "test" environments. Is this something you have found to be an initial stage that everyone goes through before they learn to travel and interact with other non-physical individuals independently? After reading all of Monroe's books I am very drawn to the idea of the freedom to travel where I like but also work with others to learn and assist in retrieval work. Since experiencing OBEs I feel a bit like a stallion just raring to get out and quite literally FLY! I've had experiences where I felt I was "off the rails" and learned some valuable lessons both about my own unconscious tendencies and about the behavior of other non-physical individuals (many have not been very nice). Perhaps these tests are interspersed with more free exploration so I can learn to get the most of my experiences and not get "caught out".

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Hello everyone,
   Well it was an interesting morning indeed! I had an experience that if it wasn't for reading the thread on tests I might not have realized that's highly likely what this was. I did not have much sleep last night after being woken up by my toddler rather early. I had the chance to go back to bed about an hour later which tends to be when the majority of my spontaneous projections occur. It felt very similar to some of the tests Monroe described in one of his books where there was essentially a reset between each experience. It went as follows:

Vibrations

Come to awareness in my bed that I am NP (Non-physical), an attractive man comes into my bed and engages in a sexual manner, I start to feel seduced but then realize this may not be someone I want to engage with (I'm familiar with this test), I leave the room through the wall and begin to fly around but I sense he is following me. I ignore him and look at the house I just exited. I observe the structure of the home which is rectangular with a spanish style roof. I observe the property and conclude it looks close enough to my father's house and continue on.

Cut to black
Vibrations

Come to awareness in the bedroom again, detach from body, go through wall, flying around the neighborhood, don't know what to do with myself. Want to play around with changing my appearance. I look down and think how about Captain America! I change my appearance but realize it's not so easy as I need to concentrate on what it would look like. (I've had the same experience in another projection realizing changing my appearance is not so easy and requires me to really visualize what I want to look like).

Cut to black
Vibrations

Come out of the room again, and start to wonder what the heck is going on here. I think okay I want to meet with a mentor or guide. I am suddenly at an inground pool looking at an older man surrounded by some other people who resemble my family members. He does seem to acknowledge me but goes to the area of the pool that catches all the gunk that falls in and is trying to lift out this large mass of junk. Others go to help him and I am standing back not wanting to bother him but also unsure of what to do.

Cut to black
Vibrations

Out of the room again, and call out loud to meet with some sort of mentor or guide. A woman appears to fly towards with a young girl with her. I stop her and she states she helps people who have lost their physical body prematurely. She looks preoccupied and I ask her how I could meet my own personal guide. She doesn't respond and seems to look like she's busy as the young girl she's with is waiting for her. I don't want to bother her any further and let her go. I briefly remember she almost appeared to melt at the very end of the exchange.

I had a definite intuition while still projected at the end of this last experience that it was a test. It was almost as if it was being whispered to me telepathically.

Analysis

• I failed to recognize first of all that the room I was "awakening" in was actually my childhood room and not my real bedroom. I also failed to recognize the house did not look at all like my current home but more similar to my childhood home. I think this was a test of how lucid I was. I had the wherewithal to realize I was in a projected state and enough to observe my surroundings but my critical thinking did not kick in.
• I believe the man in my bed was a test to see if I could overcome sexual desires (I've had this test many times before).
• I don't quite know what to make of the older man in the pool and the woman helping the young girl. I wonder if it was a test of my own personal restraint because I've very badly wanted to meet a mentor/ guide and have yet to have a concrete encounter (that I know of).
• I was observant enough to ride each vibration and exit right at the crest of it which resulted in successful "detachment". Unsure if I was actually aware physically or if this was "simulated" vibrations.

When I woke up all I could think was damn! how do I get myself to go that step further and realize not only are you in the non-physical but you need to call into question your surroundings? Any feedback is much appreciated!

Thank you Lumaza I really appreciate the comprehensive responses! I'm going to go through these threads and work on my routine. Interestingly enough someone non-physical must have been keen to the fact that I am trying to hone my projection skills because I had some spontaneous experiences this morning that I believe were tests. I'm going to start a new thread in the Experiences board to see if I can get some ideas on how to overcome this challenge. Seems like I've been assigned quite a lot of homework but boy am I grateful for it 

If I may give you a further tip, this is a example of my sessions. The first is a preparatory ritual that I use. As soon as start it, the "shift" is already occurring. I attempted in the past to explain to people here that a "ritual" of some shape or form is great method of "brain entrainment". Why I loved the use of Binaural Beats and Isochronic Tones was, they taught me how to recognize the changes in my brain frequency. I could discern the difference between a Alpha, Beta, Delta and even a Theta state of being.

So would you suggest  mental ritual -> relaxation -> noticing?

Where does the whole mental rundown bit come into play or am I getting ahead of myself? This is where the information overload is confusing me. Especially because I've done both the traditional coming out of the body and phasing but I'm thinking the key similarity to both these methods is the fundamental mental focusing that is required as a prepatory stage to either your focus being to come out or go within.

At this point, I think "progressive relaxation" is something you should do. Not only does it completely relax and turn your physical body off, it also can lead to an unexpected Phase shift or OBE. Consume your "entire" focus in a good progressive relaxation session. Make the first couple of ones lengthy, until you are consciously aware of it and used to the feeling that the progressive relaxation creates. Once you are accustomed to it, you can shorten the focus on it. I do a progressive relaxation from toe to head in about 5 minutes now. When I first started in this practice, my progressive relaxation sessions consumed the entire practice for that day. That took anywhere from 15-45 minutes. ...and it feels so good!  

Thank you!

I've found the best progressive relaxation for me has been that Intro to Focus 10 track on CD1 by Robert Monroe. I was doing that everyday for about 2-3 weeks until I found I was able to get into that mode which I thought was Focus 10 but was really more like Focus 3. Are you suggesting I stick with that longer? I'm trying to put together a good little practice routine for myself, would you say going through Intro to Focus 10; then 30 min-1 hr of noticing exercise would be a good start? At what point should I move on from noticing to mental rundown?

I think what also gets me off-track is I'll be practicing to have a conscious projection, fall asleep, have a spontaneous projection, get all jazzed up then try to leap into phasing "for real" without the prepatory work the next time I go in then of course it doesn't work 

I sometimes think if I do have a non-physical mentor, they throw me a bone every now and again and help me to spontaneously project then chuckle to themselves when they see me fall into the same old trap all the while gently trying to encourage 'Jessie will you stick to a damn routine already!'

So here's some observations I've made on my attempts at the noticing exercise the last several days. If I am alert enough to remain in the lying down position for more than say 15 minutes, I begin to get so physically uncomfortable that I cannot let go of my physical body. It is usually my back that starts to cramp up and stiffen. Should I be integrating more yoga/core work to my exercise routine to help with this?

Hi there,
     I've been consistently training for OBEs over the past 9 months and began having success the past 5 months with at least 1-4/month. Most of these have been spontaneous wherein I come to astral awareness while in a dream or catch a wave of vibrations and "roll out" as I exit a dream state. Perhaps 2-3 times I have successfully phased but I am finding that I keep running into the same problems. I get to the Focus 3 state laying on my back (which is somewhat uncomfortable however it is the best way I can keep my focus), I go through a mental rundown (Either riding on an elephant who is slowly walking or walking through a meadow full of poppy flowers) however I find that I either stay too focused to allow myself to drift further or I begin drifting asleep and lose the ability to focus on the rundown so it essentially stops and starts. I try to give myself about 1-1.5 hours before I decide it's not going to happen.

I've done the noticing exercise and I can notice and begin to get absorbed in the shifting, swirling patterns but as soon as my mind gets fully immersed (it gets quite intense, almost looks like the bright vivid colors when you rub your eyes) it's like "WHOA TOO MUCH!" and it immediately snaps itself back. I'm wondering if that is something that the mind learns not to do through repeated exposure? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

Hi everyone,
    I've been experiencing an increase in spontaneous OBEs and have had enough of them to see a pattern of behavior in the "people" I encounter out there and would like to see if other people notice the same behavior. I'm hoping this could give confirmation for me as to whether I am actually experiencing F3 and not just an F2 overlay.
    For one, the environments are quite average, a house, an apartment, a city block, a shanty town. I am unfamiliar with any of these places in my waking life. The behavior of the individuals I encounter are different than that of dream characters. They react much more like your average person and do not always approach me. They will observe me with curiosity, surprise, occasionally fear (I once ended up in a little girls room and felt so badly when she hid from me she looked terrified). The times when I fly seem to draw attention, like they are looking at a UFO. When I get the chance to engage in conversation I often meet people who are quite friendly and some seem to know who I am, others have a dumbfounded look on their face when I casually say "Oh yeah well I'm just here checking things out, I got a physical body back home". On only one occasion I had two men approach me with what felt like bad intentions and I didn't stick around to find out what. Recently, I asked a man what I looked like to him. He pointed to his forehead and said I had something like a "dot" there and there were other "dots?" on my body. I met another man last night who looked rather sullen and had what looked like blood stains on him. From what I remember he explained he died in either a violent or untimely manner and I felt sad for him I hugged him and said I was so sorry. He seemed to be comforted by this.
    In all of these experiences my emotions have been relatively neutral which lent some stability to the experiences. I would say I had about 70% lucidity, I was completely aware I was in an OBE state and had a good deal of control over my actions.
    Have others seen the same type of behavior from individuals they meet "over there" and environments?