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#1
I'm not familiar with the sensation myself, yet, as I haven't got very far with regards to energy raising and channeling yet, but I know a Shiatsu practitioner who lives near me and always tells people before she begins a treatment not to be embarassed if they start farting while she's working! I guess the prinicple's the same: once you start moving energy round your body, you open up a lot of pathways that get blocked for whatever reason (not enough attention, poor posture, poor diet, Western lifestyle basically, no emphasis on the importance of breathing etc.), and so the simple processes of the autonomous nervous system and ordinary bodily functions suddenly start working more efficiently, which is bound to produce an initial spate of side-effects.

Sounds quite amusing to me, though I'm sure it can be off-putting sometimes  :)
#2
Welcome to Astral Chat! / I am the Snibblet
April 12, 2005, 22:49:20
For I am the Snibblet!

Let my ink infect thee thrice,
Time and space are bent by spice,
F4oC sounds rather nice,
And the word 'Ridley' looks like the subtle curvature of a Canadian lake.

"If we structured posts around our thoughts the way
the post-structuralists thought language was a slippery table,
On which danced these succulent but silly Wittgensteinian word-cakes,
We'd never be able to explore the Ground of Being?"

(Who was that speaking then?)

(I'm not sure.)

Still waiting,
For the world to end in 1972 like they promised me,
Or perhaps we have 2012 to look forward to? BAKTUN BAKTUN!!!
Like a dog barking eschatology in the turning midnight,
Above lines drawn on the face of Gaia
that become a moustache of monkeys with eyes of Ayahuasca.
I am the owner of that astral-tea room some of you know,
And yes, my cakes are simply the finest.
Begin being. Easy right? Ha! Om Ah Hung indeed my little swilly-whisp, go on, away into the atmosphere with you! Explore I implore thee! Wonder while you wander, maintain and elevate! Scrape the very beating wings of the Angel of Death, climb into the Vishnu Complex and bring us back God's toenails in a crystal vial! Then they shall believe, or won't they?
Always remain skeptical of skeptics, for even skeptics have a soul.
This, my good friends, is evolution, right now, this second, feel your part in it? Feel all those seemingly pointless little acts and desires and whims, try and see what direction they're pointing in, that, my friend, is the direction of evolution! Hot damn, man! Let's grow wings, gills, a tail, numerous tails perhaps, bigger fingers for touching the stars, bigger eyes for catching flies, enormous ears so that we might hear the sacred languages of household objects (my oh my, is there anything like the love-song of a dishwasher? the odes of a desk-lamp?), let us inflate our minds on a daily basis, let us see, deeper, fuller, let integral rule our paradigms, let the president serve the universal whims of creativity, not a god of money and packaged insanity...

No! nothing political herein. Let them feast, those who choose that way.

I.

I have other plans.

You shall all see,
For I am the Snibblet,
let my ink infect thee.
#3
Well, exactly.

Baby-eating shape-shifting interdimensional all-controlling lizards?

Please.

And all the stuff about 'how hard it will be do understand something like this...' and how 'most people simply laugh away something like this...' C'mon, those are some of the oldest, and most successful it must be said, tactics for selling a book!
#4
Hmmm.

I have a peculiar feeling inside my face... oh god... what's THAT?!?!

Aaaaaaaaargh!

Lizards, dozens of the fu.ckers!

Please, please, please. I can hardly begin to comment on some of the madness woven into this thread of discussion, so I shall simply waggle my tongue and produce a noise like a raw kidney falling on to a kitchen floor.

Has anyone read 'The Precious Treasury on the Basic Phenomena of Space' by Longchen Rabjam?
Just curious as to what people might think about that.
David Icke is one of the cleverest and simultaneously stupid people I am aware of on the planet at this current moment, let us refer to him as 'Jibble' for ever more.
Aaaah, such late night touching of keys is bound to produce silliness.
Just giving my two cents, which, incidentally, is probably not worth quite that much.
Yes, I'm aware I've polluted this thread with a message MOSTLY nonsense, but there is truth in here somewhere...oooooh where!!??

I love you all.
Peace, warriors of the subtle mollusk.
Muesli
#5
Welcome to Astral Chat! / extremely unusual pics
April 05, 2005, 07:50:11
A thought has occured as to how one might go about achieving such pictures deliberately:

First you would need the room to be entirely dark except the candles or other light-source/s you were intending to 'ghost' - which, actually looks to be the case in the pictures above. Then you would set the flash-time to half or some other fraction of the total shutter speed duration; for instance, a total shutter speed of one second, but the flash only occurring for, say, a third of a second. Then, when taking the picture, you would hold the camera steady while the flash went off, illuminating the room, and then immediately after, in the following darkness, you could move the camera, which would record the trails created by the candles and nothing else - the rest of the room would be dark enough not to blur the resultant image of the room, and the trails of light would effectively be superimposed on top of the picture, with the illusion of them occupying the same temporal-spacial realm. This method would account for the effects shown above I think, although I have yet to put this to the test in the comfort of my own home - something I will surely do if I have time.
I am not suggesting for a second that these pictures were created with the deliberate aim of trickery, however, merely seeking to account for something that does not seem paranormal to my eyes.
Even though you have remarked that you are unwilling to photograph these spirits any further, I would suggest for the sake of credibility and interest the filming of a small section of video footage. As a rule, in this modern age of digital madness, photographic evidence of paranormal phenomena is fundamentally flawed - (again, not suggesting you have done this, but) anyone can buy a digital camera, get a copy of photoshop and produce realistic-looking images of ghosts, psi-balls, auras, simulacra, UFOs etc etc etc. In general, for the amateur film-maker, producing realistic effects on film is a much harder task, and the gaps show more clearly - unless of course you happen to be an employee at a CGI or similar post-production company, in which case, you could fool anyone probably with enough time on your hands!
But, if there really are spirits there, which it certainly sounds like there are, I'm sure you have no need to prove their existence to yourself, and I'm sure they at least need no further affirmation of their existence :)

Just posing as the playful skeptic  :D

Muesli
#6
Welcome to Astral Chat! / extremely unusual pics
April 05, 2005, 06:29:15
Hmm... on that last series of photos, the fact that both the trails of light are exactly the same renders them, in my opinion, slightly dubious, looks like it has more to do with camera-shake etc.

That said, some of the pictures are certainly compelling!

Muesli
#7
Good day fine people, a very intriguing thread to follow indeed...

I do, however, have a few thoughts that I would like to weave into this thread, concerning in particular Frank's assertations about the FxoC model of consciousness/ the Kosmos. As a brief disclaimer, I would like to point out that I am at this time not a conscious projector (though I am learning, and know on some level what this learning is merely an act of conscious remembrance, not a novel acquisition of skills), and thus I come from a perspective of philosophical curiosity, rather than being able to offer an actual alternative position. I would also like to state that I am not suggesting, as it may be interpreted, that Frank's ideas are inherently wrong, I merely seek clarification as to one or two points that trouble a peculiar feeling of the gut that many are inclined to call intuition. Whether my position is defensible, or merely stems from a certain degree of ignorance, which I am happy to proclaim, is open to question.

Now then, preamble over.

What intrigues me, and sets my little internal alarm bells ringing, is the certitude with which you assert your ideas. To quote an old adage, "The thing to be most wary of in the whole world is not people telling lies, but people who claim they are telling the truth." I am curious, exactly where and how did you arrive at this four-level system of consciousness/reality? If, as you say, this is a model you devised yourself, there are two possible answers to this initial question (there may well be more possibilities, and I accept I may indeed be entirely off the mark!):

1. You obtained this information from a 'higher being' either encountered on a level of reality higher/deeper/on a different focal resonance than this one, or the information/model was 'channelled' through you while in the physical plane, or some other similar set of circumstances.

2. Your model is based entirely on direct subjective experience of the proposed arrangement of focal points.

If the answer is, or is in the region of, the first point, then I am extremely dubious as to its credence and worth, as I would recommend you to be. In my earlier years when a desire to expand my interest and wonder in the universe compelled me towards certain areas of New Age thought that now seem rather tenuous, I encountered and read a lot of different channelled works - many of which had entirely novel, and completely contradictory 'secret histories' of mankind and the universe, and each providing a unique model for existence or consciousness. The important point being, depsite the probability that a lot of people channelled nothing more than the capitalist urge to sell books to slightly lost teenagers such as my earlier self, there were undoubtedly people among them who genuinely felt the made contact with other entities, and indeed did, and recieved the information which they faithfully wrote down and gave to the world, somehow thinking that what was provided them was unique, and certainly different to all the other various tales told by countless aliens from Lyra, the Pleidies, Sirius etc. and untold numbers of Angels and manifestations of God. Yet still, the contradictions illustrate the important point here...

If, however, as I would deem more likely to be the case, you have in your experience as a serious practitioner of the art of astral projection arrived at these conclusions via experiential empiricism, then a more pertinent, pressing question arises. (Please, for the purposes of this message, set aside the semantic differences of the various 'labels' applied to astral projection - I entirely agree with the points made on the matter, however, let AP suffice for this discussion!) While I agree with you when you say:

"... people went within themselves and saw many different "levels" of consciousness with all their attendant characteristics, like planes and sub-planes, etc. But there are no levels and there are no planes. Consciousness just is. It is all the same."

I find it interesting that you should propose a model for Consciousness having previously remarked:

"Every idea, concept, invention, construct, etc., etc. that has been or ever will be invented or otherwise introduced within our physical reality is already lodged within Focus 2 of consciousness."

For while you were of course referring specifically to the idea of fictional worlds, and their presence on the so-called astral planes or Focus 2oC (a topic I find most alluring - the possibilites are unbelievable!), you surely must see the contradiction inherent here. Assuming that there is indeed a physical world, or F1oC, (the likelihood of which it is not my purpose here to delve into), and that within or beyond that, or as you say, visible/attainable through a shift in focus, there is a subtler realm of Being wherein the subjective reigns supreme over the objective, and Mind and imagination take precedence over certain 'concrete' aspects of reality which we associate with this grosser, physical plane (something which, although I cannot project, have read enough about to take on faith), on the basis of F2oC's very nature, how can anything beyond it be concieved of as true? To put it in the form of another question:

How can you possibly know with any certitude that your model of F3 and F4oC are not products/constructs of your own imagination/creative impulse layered on to the Protean and malleable fabric of F2oC? How can you know for sure that you do not percieve the 'transition zone' filled with people enacting their personal Hells and Heavens etc. because that is precisely what you think should be there, and likewise with your perception of the transcendent realm above that? I hope the nature of my enquiry is clear enough. Granted, perhaps you would reply that cumulative inquiry by people has confirmed your theory. But how many of these people have read your ideas, headed off into the unknown and seen precisely the 'landscape' (not a very appropriate word I know!) that you have mapped because they expect it and nothing more? I am aware from  one of your previous posts that Robert Monroe, whose work I have, I confess, not perused in huge detail, asserts a similar, if more elaborate, system of which yours is a more refined version. However, instead of there being empirically concrete aspects that fit the model, could it not be that something universal about the human psyche manifests in certain ways upon the malleable form of the subtler realms, thus giving it the impression of universality, which is however nothing more than universal in the human species?
I only ask these questions mainly because I can. I have been reading various different accounts of the more subtle dimensions of existence for about ten years now, many of which differ on details, some of which vary quite wildly, but all of which differences could be accounted for due to the Protean nature of subtler reality. And while I have been perusing this board for a while, and listened to many great speculations, this is one of the first times I have heard such assertion of truth - something that intrigues me indeed! I must stress that this is in no way an attack, certainly not in a personal way, and not even really an attack of ideas, I am merely offering myself as a devil's advocate to your position for the general furtherance of ideas. It may merely be that I am entirely mislead in my understanding :)
However, I remain intrigued, and look forward to your response good sir!

Muesli

PS. Although it is not the place, as I do not intend to violate the thread here in my first serious post, I do disagree with you about religion :) But I won't go into that here...! hahaha!
PPS. I haven't reread this through, I hope it makes sense, or that you at least get the gist of my qualms :)