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once u project for your first time, does it get easier from then or is it still a chance thing. on average how often do you project? ne one that projects often that is.

this is a very helpful program, http://www.bwgen.com/download.htm download it, it has a bunch of waves to do all sorts of things check it out, also specifically for trance states i found this site with three mp3 they are good as well , http://www.soulflight.com/trancesounds.htm

yes, everyone loves the rope technique when getting into trance and then astral projection. I like it too, so much that i decided to perfect it, and i have what i believe to be a better version of that technique. ill explain

the rope technique  illudes ur mind that a certain part of your body is descending. the sensation of that is a feeling or relaxation that just keeps on going. so...ive found that instead of using the rope, work with the sensation directly, its best to practice onthe face muscles. so you relax all your face muscles, and when you have done that keep relaxing ur face, like theres still muscle that is tense even though there isnt. eventually the relaxing feeling in that are of your body is actually that area going into a trance, it gets me there so much faster if i skip the rope and just go with the sensation. try it,
if you have ne questions please post, and let me know how it worked

i did some intense energy work while on salvia, i did it for a good hour, and when i was done i looked around and i could see energy, it was green and all over the walls in some places. I have heard of this happening but i dont know how and what making a ki ball would have to do with green walls, although i did do this intense energy work where u awaken everything ur chakras and go to this higher consciousness where you have physical consciousness while projecting like both my bodies could see but we werent separated. and i was wondering if that made them green because i could see in the astral as well.

Theres no doubt demons are real. i believe them because i have had closer contact than i want to admit with them. From my experiences ill tell you straight up, they lie, they lie like a governmental conspiracy. they will do ne thing to get you to take the bait of a lie, in my honest opinion i think they are getting kicks out of making people believe and fear that year. If they wanted to atack us they wouldnt let us all know before so. a word of advice when one creeps out into the spiritual world. the human brain compared to a demon would be like comparing a sheep to a monkey. also, havent you ever lied and had people believe you? hasnt someone lied and u believed them straight up? Whos to say demons dont do the same thing. People watch what you believe and what you discard, truth and belief are two completely different things.

I honestly believe marijuana enhances all psychic experiences whether u want to project, open chakras, move a piece of paper across the room, anything that requires concentration/meditation. now ive seen that some people on this site disagree on my choice (pot) but i really want to hear FROM SOMEONE THAT HAS EXPERIENCED drugs, i want to hear their opinion. ever since i started to meditate i have taken a small dose of pot before doing so and have found unbelievable results in doing so. Ive come so far with it too, now im not saying do pot and itll make ur dreams come true. u can smoke it and sit there while nothing happens, or you can sit down and meditate, this is when the magic begins. so really i want to know if im the only one out there that thinks pot is an enhancer, and if im not id like to hear some experiences other people have had with using the herb for desired effects.....

hey, im sure all of you know the seven main chakras. well, ive been having trouble awakening them, i can surge energy to the desired chakra. I let the energy build till my muscles twitch and i can deffinately feel the energy pooling in the chakra, but as soon as i let off my concentration the energy subsides and im left with still a sleeping chakra. Without even pulling energy to my third eye i can begin to get sensations there like pulsating and almost the headache u get when its opening, but i cant seem to get a sensation in ne of the other chakras. I was wondering if each chakra has its different sensation, i also want to know how i can be sure theres activity in the chakra, and why the hek can i pull massive ammounts of energy to the chakra but it still wont open. btw one thing that makes me much more different from all of you is the fact that i have chronic fatigue syndrome, thats the reason i want to know for sure if my chakras are right or not because the usual cause of cfs is an imbalance in the energy and physical body
                                thank you, matt

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!!!!

i see eleven past the hour on just about every other other hour, i see eleven as change when i buy things, its everywhere!

hey oddjob im the one that did the post on pot, i also did a post on salvia. you bet ur butt drugs help astral projection. not all of them though. ive found the best combination is some pot and some salvia. try smoking some and meditating, ullfind such sucess. also try some savia, salvia by itslelf isnt so great but pot and salvia will leave u speachless the next day. give that a ttry and let me know how it worked out, also painkillers they are ok to achieve relaxation, but on pot and salvia relaxation is already attained, u could be laying on glass and still get a relaxation.

hey, could you hook me up with the OBEing wave, i have the bwgen and i think the wave ur talking about is found somewhere else, but idk where to go. thanks

hey, after you guys have explained it alittle better, i think thats a great idea, hah sorry ronk for not thinking it was soo cool. now i want to try one. thanks

my good friend just killed himself cuz of meth, not a cool thing.

that is wierd and in my oppinion really not necessary, not at all, maybe it makes things easier but, go get yourself a really cushy chair, does the same thing

shifting would be to redirect the flow into a different pattern, that was extremely confusing for me though, but i understand your idea of recycling the energy through ur body over and over again, try to get it to flow into your surrounding and back into you so you connect, its easier to project if you have energy expanded far from your body.

it probably wasnt white, more of an absence of true color, alot of times in the stages if undeveloped auric vision you wont see colors, just this energy field. keep working, although i havent been as good about it as i should be, it only takes a week of regular practice to see some indication of color

if u were to die while projecting, people would drop like flies, especially in infancy and childhood, there wouldnt be a website like this, people would be scared to sleep, theres a chord a silver one that keeps your consciousness connected with your body, to sever it is to die, that only happens once.

whether you believe it is the astral body coming back to the physical or not, it is your awareness coming back to you. i get that in meditation sometimes ill be in a deep trance and all the sudden, im not, i think its where ur just about to fall asleep and ur goin goin, bam ur consciousness wakes itslef up.

when working with these things, its best to know where you are going, if you know what you are trying to achieve then you work ur way there, instead of just walking the maze blindly. although when talking about meditation, sometimes i just let it happen, i get to this deep deep place where everything is connected, and i just kinda ride it, in one of tools songs he talks of this "i reach out to whatever will bewilder me" you will eventually know what you are doing when the pieces fit together better.

I believe you were beginning to see your own aura from inside it. on the second exercise were you able to see four purple fragments, or did it phase between the two?

what you achieve in meditation will echo in your every day life, your spiritual progress, pushing away the daily worldly things and focusing on yourself within you will achieve a balance, internal and external to yourself.

"every end is a beginning". you just havent been there yet. Think how endlessly this existence goes on day in day out, seems like a lifetime within a second. i believe existence continues on after death, i dont think history books pages will ever be complete, in this life or the next and so on, if existence is infinite, then why expire?

my two drug related topics have been such hits, i think i may post more topics on drugs, and psychadelic experiences. it excites me to see what a good informer these two topics have become.

an answer to halphased: spiritual growth and pot can be achieved by, well its different for evreyone so heres the guideline. pot enhances meaning it makes something better that wasnt before, find in yourself what has evolved, been enhanced within you after you hit up, find that and ride it, sit down and meditate the whole time. it will take you to places you would never know existed. also on my post about salvia i talk about salvia being a shortcut to places that are already there, but since salvia is your bike and the only way to get there is the road, then salvia is better than walking u kno? ne way this one person posted

Originally posted by majour ka

whats best? bieng dropped on top of the moutain by helicopter and planting the flag, ....or climbing it your self?

i agree that its good to climb the mountain by yourself, but dont you think being dropped on the top without the walk would let u get used to the top of the mountain, and that the next time you decide to walk it you will have a better feel of the mountain and in that sense achieve the top much faster.

back to the growth halphased, you cant just let pot do the work for you, pot opens the doors, you must walk through them, i hope that helped you

wow
that shows that projection can be easily achieved, what an interesting story, ill remember your experience with the fan, aslo the rope trick, i have evolved that technique to an easier technique ive been meaning to preach it on this web site, infact i may just start a new post. look for a post named "better than the rope"

ya, as i see it, when u expand the consciousness, it connects with energies, cuz sometimes i feel connected to my surrounding, sometimes the universe, and when i do i can sense things like whats outside, or what someones thinking, or simply see everything i choose in my mind.

you should be balanced in everything, and start building around one goal.