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Hi readers,

Yes, the governemnt of the United States has done research on this subject  and why not? It would be greatly advantagous to everyone if we didn't have to worry about the Other Guys secret weapons stash or whatever. My friend saw on major network tv a former CIA agent on the airaying that it was easy to do but that numbers and map locations were useless and it was disbandoned. Then, i read a book, Why People Believe Weird Thingsy a PHD in psychologythat repeated it some where in its 300 some odd pages. He even gave the amount they spent on it in there. He isa major skeptic in the area. Most of the research in this area had little to do with astral travel/OBE and covered many other subjects.

Jay Jay

Vladimir and =+Jeni+=,

Oh yes the visits. I get those. Sometimes it is verbal and I think I'm hearing things and other times I feel things that are only physical in nature and get nervous from the feel. Dark shapes and the voice of someone I know with it. Thank you =+Jeni+= for giving me a name for the phenominia. Bi-Location. Lately, it has been frequent and from the same person over and over. I have no fear but the other person doesn't even know he is doing it. He does meditation and I really don't believe he knows the effect he is creating in the other areas of physics or astrial planes.

Jay Jay

Heredity and OBE

I believe there is a lot we don't know in this respect because it is taboo in many cultures. In the US it is very taboo, unless you live in California. (yes, I'm chuckling Americans)  This leaves us to believe we are a minority but that may or may not be true. As of Celt/French ancestry,  I find I can identify with the spirit of a person more easily than a Nationality. Like an Aura. Certain ancestrial tribes of American Indians have said that they THOUGHT I was American Indian all a long. I am flattered but I must confess, I'm not. The like spirit is drawn to the like, I think. The old Celtic faiths are asimilar to the American Indians and I believe that is the connection. When it comes to OBE I am somewhat frustrated that I have more frequent OBE experiences with the Celts than others. I was raised in strict religious style of christianity but I always knew insde that the forest speaks to me and the oceans. I just decidied to listen regardless of the taboo. And then I found myself here, trying to sort things out.

Jay Jay

Well, world I agree with just about everything you might say, especially about Bush corruption based King George W. coo in Florida. But I would, I'm the the Green Party. Brave new world huh? First of all Gore won and Ralph Nader is right. There are a lot of Americans not fooled by the Corporate run government, IMF,  WTO, GATT, NAFDA etc. Pretty simple. Not easy to change. Like will the real Nazis minded people please stand up? I don't think we'll see that:-)

Remember, there we plenty of other people of other nations in the Twin Towers, too. It's not like this group are freedom defenders or something. They are the suffering and the hurt and should have had some method of being linked to some of that oil money and ability to rebuild on solid footing in that area without having to resort to drug traffic, child slvery, being body bombers, etc..You know. I don't have to tell you. Question: Where did all that oil money go? Trash for the rich as usual. Hmmmm solar? did I hear solar and wind power for Europe owned by the citizens of Afganistan? "We have a lot more solutions than problems." nader  Hey, I got my opinions here Dems and Reps:-)

Jay Jay

Greetings Ashfro,

I empathsize with your situation and I understand your desires are of the best of will. It is possible to contact someone in this manner and I whole heartedly support your effort. However, like others have mentioned, sometimes the other contact is receiving the request but not responding. It is not as much to be taken personaly but subjectively. Sometimes I have to 'shut down' from too much activity and other times from a desire to be left alone. It may take time and needs to be approached non intrusively. Like a quiet knock on the door and lots of patience. I like to remember that this is someone elses sanctuary I am asking to come in to.

Peace be with you,


Jay Jay