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More I think about it, more it's difficult to distinguish knowledge from believe. Example : I know I don't AP... but I know that I could ! I've absolutely no doubt about it.

So, is it really a knowledge or a believe ??  What make me be so sure (confident, trust in myself) ?

Wow... you've raised many good information Telos.

I think it would be not easy to make

time and others both cease to exist

So maybe should we just see their believes (and/or perceptions) for what their are... an other point of view.

I have faith

It make me wonder... so I'll use the dictionary technic  

faith  
  1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
  2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
  3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
  4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
  5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
  6. A set of principles or beliefs.

mmhh...  there is four definition using "belief" and one using "dogma"... was you speaking about loyalty (#3) ?  

Hi all of you !

I have observed that every time someone tell his opinion there will be someone else to reply that it is dogma or manipulation.  And that's the end of a great discussion. Emotion and ego speak lound.... Fact is that it is true... 90 % of this forum contents is just what it is : opinions and believes !

Does an alien have taken control of my soul and making me be so anger !?  
Don't worry ! God's love will surround you !  

Hey !? There is no such thing as Astral ! (keep reading)
Many people come here just to be told exactly the opposite. They want to believe it with all their heart. DO YOU REALLY NEED TO BELIEVE IT ? Why don't you make it a reality hey !? Does it not sound better ? (here I have a thought for Robert's catch basket system)

Same thing apply for all topic. Don't argue that it is opinion or believe... truth is that you probably don't know where yours come from.

So now, can we just be open minded and help each others (or am I too naive ?)
-Weeta

I don't know why I wake up someday with so many negative thought.... But one thing is for sure, when I don't focus on them I feel so much more happy ! Even bad thing look like not so bad in a positive mood.

The social norms and governmental laws may constrain the conduct and visible deeds of a person. But everyone is totally free in the unlimited expanse of mental creations, imaginations, thoughts, feeling ... etc.

Soooooo true !!

A good question should be : what if you could have and/or be whatever you want !?

Thanks for sharing
-Weeta

It's a disappointed Weeta who talk to you here...[]

I've realized that metaphysics like I know isn't discuss on this forum.

According to the dictionary:
Metaphysics is the study of questions about the nature of the world that are more general or more fundamental than those asked by any particular science.

Parapsychology...the scientific study of paranormal phenomena, i.e. psi, except in Britain, it has largely superseded the older expression "psychical research."

Auric, Teleportation, Hypnosis, Cyrokinesis, Telekinesis, ***kinesis, etc. All thoses topics are great, but not exactely concerning the cause of universe...

Will it interest somebody !?[?]

-Weeta

I think I have an high understanding of universe [:O] And I would enroll some of you into a discussion about it...

Do not PM me, I want a big and transparency one !

Come to "Frank Hatem's Hyperscience"'s topic
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12265


-Weeta

(Did I read too much about "The Omni Dragons" discussion !? [])

Hi everyone !

I would know if somebody already know about Frank Hatem and his work !?  I mean, I've found that his view (or understanding) of universe is close of what Robert Bruce talk about in his article "Re-incarnation".  And I would like too hear what you guys think on that topic !  

If you don't, I suggest this link to introduce yourself..
http://www.hatem.com/hyperscience.htm#MEANING
http://www.hatem.com/metah.htm

It's clear that he (Frank Hatem) hasn't the same "spiritual" approach but it's absolutely not disappointing...

Hope you'll like this "logic speech" !

Truly, Weeta

About voices..

While I've read some of your experiences, in this forum, I inconsciently focus on that topic : Voices.  I don't have a lot of experiment in obe and other astral things, I just read a lot, but sometime (espescialy when I fall asleep (between the sleep state and the awake state)) I hear voices in my mind.  For my part, it's not like I heard somebody speaking somewhere (anywhere).  I really hear voices from my head.  It's always voices that I recognize, but I always bug on them because I can't controle them.  I just can concentrate (let going...).  

About light and color..

It's like the movements that I see in front of my closed eyes (in the same state...).  I can't see anything meaningful but sometime, I see a cercle of color (blue, green or sometime purple...)  or just white movement.  



Maybe somebody I've already experimented that !?

-Weeta

Hi guys !

Does somebody knows something about the Violet Flamme ?

I would know what you guys think about it...

Thank you !



P.S. French people will be thanks to write in french...

II - I AM IS ALL.


There's nothing in the universe which is not contained in this sensation of being: everything I can experience is a sensation of "I AM". Hence, if I want to be scientific, I must recognize that NOTHING EXISTS OUTSIDE MYSELF, since the whole universe is MY SENSATION. So, I am obliged to say: "I am not a body". For my body is a sensation among many others, and all of them are included in "I AM". I can't be at the same time matter or body, which are forms of sensation, and the sentient act itself. These are two different persons, and the first step to initiation is to recognize the distinction between these two aspects of reality: what I am, and what I feel myself to be. I am the consciousness of things, not things themselves.

[The Seven Basic Certainties]

The Seven Basic Certainties

I - I AM.

The sensation of being is a certitude. Only the sensation, not its form. My sensation of being is the sensation that there is a universe. It means that being is a DUALITY. I say "I am" because I feel in opposition with "what I feel I am not". I feel that the infinity around me is outside me, is not me. This object of consciousness makes me feel "I am".

Really !?  God damn'it, I only heard about the bible...

Can you tell me more ?

-Weeta

quote:Originally posted by ImmuredSoul


Who says anything has to come from anywhere?

-> Cause and effect !

According to me (in agreement with M. Frank Hatem's metaphysics), there's only one place where anything can come from.  It's from nothingless.  Anything else will leave us in the doubt.  Like : "And where did God came from".  Nothingless is the only thing that has no need of cause.  So, does nothingless could have the effects that we know (the form of this universe) ? [For complete answer, read about Frank Hatem..]

brief case of nothingless:
1)Nothingless is nullity which is infinite
2)Infinity is necessarily null
3)But, Nullity has no need of being infinite

Here we got consciousness which is the distinction of nullity from infinity which are an whole into nothingless

All is made from this bipolarity :
Atom -> proton vs electron
Relationship -> me vs others
Morality -> good vs bad
[...]


Enough said. Does it make sense ?
-Weeta

Fearful, irresponsible and unaware...

Won't you really be normal like majorities !?

-Weeta

Don't know what to say... I'm surprised !

Try this one : http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/news/may04/peq2/04050501.avi

-Weeta

quote:Originally posted by Moonburn33

1,1,3,5,7,11... 12 isn't part of this sequence.  it would be the first instance of a naturally occuring structure that isn't based on the fibonacci sequence.  

Would you mean the fibonacci sequence : 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,... ??

-Weeta

[individual level]

quote:Originally posted by mactombs

I still maintain that at this level, proof for OBEs is only found at an individual level.

I just want to add that :
"I - I AM.

The sensation of being is a certitude. Only the sensation, not its form. My sensation of being is the sensation that there is a universe. It means that being is a DUALITY. I say "I am" because I feel in opposition with "what I feel I am not". I feel that the infinity around me is outside me, is not me. This object of consciousness makes me feel "I am".


II - I AM IS ALL.

There's nothing in the universe which is not contained in this sensation of being: everything I can experience is a sensation of "I AM". Hence, if I want to be scientific, I must recognize that NOTHING EXISTS OUTSIDE MYSELF, since the whole universe is MY SENSATION. So, I am obliged to say: "I am not a body". For my body is a sensation among many others, and all of them are included in "I AM". I can't be at the same time matter or body, which are forms of sensation, and the sentient act itself. These are two different persons, and the first step to initiation is to recognize the distinction between these two aspects of reality: what I am, and what I feel myself to be. I am the consciousness of things, not things themselves.


III - SO, EVERYTHING IS MENTAL.

Everything is A PART OF MIND. OF MY MIND. Matter itself is a sensation of mind. Now you can no longer remain a physicist. If you are still in some doubt, ask yourself the question: "can I be conscious of something which is outside my consciousness?" The answer is NO. I can't be. If I feel or observe something, it obviously means that it is INSIDE my mind. If it is outside my mind, I can't have any consciousness of it. Quantum Physics is obliged to admit that. The whole universe, all that can be conscious, is spiritual. You can by no means prove the existence of something matérial, though you can be sure of mind. So, be scientific. Reject hypotheses. Reject matter as such.
" [From : http://www.hatem.com/metah.htm -by Frank Hatem]

-Weeta

Oups... in French, there's two "n" [xx(]

You do not like my explanation ?  Teaching is a way to learn too ! Think about it []

Timeless, thanks !  You encourage me to continue going to the gym... [] I hope you all see "absurdity" of my topic, but I'll go ahead with it.  You ask : "Perhaps a good question to ask is, Why should people feel they need a guru?". Because they don't want to go to the gym... So they buy anything which could avoiding them to go for (ouf, I'm not sure of this sentence[:I]). Trust me, I know for my-self... Do we say idleness !?

Truly,
-Weeta

No my friend, Mystic Cloud has all right !
A guru will have all the answers.

So... Don't you have a dictionnary !?  
No !? Well... ok I will help you.  Spirituality is all what refer to the mind, the mental. We could say consciousness.  Your body is created by your conscience and when you tempt to go behind this illusion, it's what we call spirituality.  So now, my disciple, you can repeat to your-self : "I am".  Nothing less, nothing more (for the moment).  Goes in peace !

[]
-Weeta

Well, not exactely. It's more about the lawyer.. my higher source told me to kill them all when it will happen and start again with more "pure" followers [}:)]

Shame on me ! Does somebody will get the point !?
Should I (and How could I) make my topic more attracting ?

-Weeta

[] no..

So, Truth will remain to the real seekers.


-Weeta

quote:Originally posted by Kazbadan

But that doesn´t mean that i will be romantic! No, i think that womens dont´like wussy guys that are always giving everything to them and are allways begging for love! That it will blow up everything.

I think that is better to act a litlle like if i was not interested at all (wihtout exagerating).

Hey !

Have you read David DeAngelo's eBook !?  It sound just like his hints... Best ones I think !  For sure love is powerfull, I spent 3 years trying to forget a girl that haven't really been my girlfriend... [xx(]  I probably skiped some "recovery" stages []

-Weeta

Why !?

I don't have final answer but I would say that people hear more about it than astral and obe.  Television show us a lot of imaginary form of it.  Moreover, in all martial art people claim to do it.  

[:O] (have you noticed I use "it" to not overpass any taboo.. it's weird !)

I've started Aikido lately and I swear that people talk about energie this way sometime (not majority, fortunately).  Probably because it's the most materialist way to understand it.  Indeed, it's not always easy to define energie.  Actually, I'm interested to know your definition of it ?

-Weeta

Ok ! I will try to share my view with you here, 'cause I have a feeling that opinions are really mixte.  

Probably a part of you believe that Obe couldn't be proved (or it's just not necessary) because it is an subjective "phenomena".  Others would yell about the RTZ possibility to prove it. I don't know why, but I've in the idea that both views are correct !?  Are they two sides of the same coin ?  Or use of each side of our brain..  You know, like 1 + 1 = 2 with my left brain and with my right brain it's BLUE !! (don't ask why it make me laugh, it's my right brain...[])  Science and Religion (or Spirituality) have been opposed a long time (they still are).  Some studies about "Paranormal" have been maked lately, but the gulf which divide them still exist even if prejudices are breaking (which is a good thing).  

But I think we reach a limit with both (science and spirituality => logic & intuition).  Science can't really be objective.  Objects are analized and defined by an observator.  So objectivity isn't Absolute.  You may argue that many observators can reach it, I will reply that our eyes can't see all the color spectrum.  Also, spirituality can't be more "absolute" than science, with a bigger evidence.  Just think about all "dogmas" (which is not the major point...)

So, where does it bring us !? Oups, I don't remember !  Na.. just kiding []

There's limits and we should overpass them.  Should I say metaphysic ?  Oups, we've lost half our reader...[]  
If we could find the cause which explain Obes, would you buy it ?  I mean, not only Obe of course !  But here, I'm really talking about metaphysics (or Hyperscience)... I'm not sure to have right in this forum. So the best is still to put a pointer ([]you've noticed.. yes, I plug it again[]) http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12265

To be harmonized with the topic title, I would say : Truth exist somewhere... just follow link ! []

Sory for those who don't want to hear about it, but do we care !? [:O]

I sincerely believe there is a lot to learn with M. Frank Hatem's Hyperscience (as there is with energie development and obes).  Could it inspire somebody like Robert Bruce's N.E.W do with me..

All that subject are so GREAT !

-Weeta

P.S. to Meedan : What you've said is SO true !  And I take it very personal [B)] ! (not your fault) Does somebody would pray for me, I wish but things are always hard to begin for me