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Ok so I've read a lot about how sexual energy can help you advance in spirituality.. But does anyone here really know how to do it? How do you transmute sexual energy? What is the technique? I'm single right now so I want to use my sexual energy for spirituality..

This is serious stuff. dont try it alone or through self help books. You may most probably mess yourself up, find a guru who is good at it.

The logic is simple. The energy before it forms sperms is channeled to the base then up the spine. This rejuvenates the body. This energy is tasked to create a new human (as in baby). but if you send it up your own spine it spreads the same energy through your own spine and then the 72,000 nadi channels that permeate your body, making you younger, fresher and more focused.

This is a many thousands of years old technique developed by Indian yogis.  The modern version is stem cell rejuvenation, which is very gross cutting and splicing of human tissue. This method is more refined , and a perpetual source of making your body youthful

Everyday now I get the feeling of pressure in between my eyebrows and its been happening for sometime now. A really long time ago I followed some videos on how to open my third eye and thought I was unsuccessful. Its not as intense as it used to be a couple months ago but I am concerned.

Nothing esoteric here, You are trying too hard to concentrate and the pressure builds up as you force concentration. Just relax, force nothing, no effort should be involved in meditation, dont try as the mind will sink in deep by itself its the nature of the mind, The only distraction is thoughts will float in, Dont fight to prevent them, which is what you are doing. when they come, just ignore them and go back to your breath/mantra/dot, whatever u keep to focus your mind .

also when you come out of meditation come out slowly. there will be no pressure build up

Hi all
         I saw the arguments of those for intoxicating substances , and i have a friend who is forever on grass and believes he is self realized.

The answer is simple , Please see the video of His holiness the dalai lama in the university of California, Titled , The nature of the mind.

His one line answer is simple. all meditation is aimed at removing illusions of life and of the mind. even in a sober state, All intoxicants and drugs , bring about greater illusions, so its self explanatory why these are banned for the serious practitioner.

In a simple summary, all these comments of peeling off layers etc is just completely wrong fantasies.

its just a greater level of delusion

I have seen my friends soaked in week living in fantasy land with imagined chemical laden color bursts in the brain attributed to spiritual visions. I have seen them loose complete touch with reality, I have seen them grow an "i" or ego out of proportion with even ordinary people, and then because they imagine all the hallucinations to be real, They are immune to good advice over time

Get off it....its just chemical induced funny stuff

Chemicals are used by lazy people , who want to avoid the sweat of daily hard realistic practice

If someone feels this advise is wrong...............deal with the Dalai Lama the big boss of all Tibetan Buddhism

and all the supreme achieved hindu yogis in the himalayas

Sorry, I dont mean to be rude, just concerned after i saw a few friends of mine go off the rails

Zon,

no you did nothing wrong, in fact you are doing it right. people see lots of colors at different times, all it means is that chakra is having energy corrections, Different people stabilize in different colors, depending on their nature,

If you stabilize at purple its good because its a chakra of a higher level , its the spiritual level and it will bring about clairvoyance, and increase your spiritual vibrations faster

You cant control what you see, Your body and its past karmic energies will center you on the appropriate chakra,

Just keep doing what you are doing, and you are doing it right

perhaps its all about the mind. The very concept of a shield is a defensive mental state. it subconsciously says there is an aggressor who by its own nature appears superior , and i am an underdog , so i defend.

Ya like some have said before me be confidant. and if i may suggest think of yourself as a divine flame.

The flame is a very powerful force in the universe.The flame burns everything that comes into its spear of influence.

Perhaps i must not use the analogy of burn. A flame transforms everything that comes into its sphere of influence ,without changing its own nature.

Hope this helps

Hi Spark/Steve,
                        You may be right it may not be kundalini, it could be pre kundilini.I really dont know, and then as you suggest, I should not become overtly obsessed with it either way. I just stick to my practice and be single minded on it without worrying about the symptoms

I would like to perhaps share with you my understanding............................I dont think its within human hands to rush or slow down the evolution of the rise of the Kundalini, unless of course you give up the practice.

Nor as my understanding is there a fixed time for manifestation , or a predictability of the nature of how we evolve spirituality. The only thing that is a constant is there has to be a firm resolve in the direction you want to take. and the resolve to be in the practice.The reactions vary depending on the gross and subtle bodies of the people, and as you know no two people have the same make up

What I do understand is the speed is determined by a) Baggage of Karma every human carries. and as this may vary, times may vary 2) For those who believe in rebirth, its also the lifetimes of practice put in over past lives.  I heard a story of one boy who was given a mantra, on his very first utterance, his body physically floated one feet off the ground. A German friend of mine on his very first meditation class went into complete Samadhi . I have also heard of people in meditation for 30 years and have gone no where , maybe because of their Karmic  burden.

There is also the 360 degree view of integration of all understanding into a 24 hour watch of their mind by some people, who shoot faster. Then there are those who do their daily ritual meditation , but the rest of the day they lead their normal life with their old tendencies. They would obviously take longer is my understanding.

There are those who think meditation is sitting for those few minutes or hours..................for  some the whole day is living meditation, as you know the longer you stay in the meditative state, the bigger the build up of the momentum

I take your point of chi training to release blocks and bring some fluidity within the body. I use the process sometimes of asanas, and more often than not i prefer , breathing exercises.

Regards Steve

regards

     Things are moving fast . and i think you are right.( I think) , when the prana channels are clear the body stops rocking. which it did.

Now i am curious about your implied  statement."when the rocking stops because blockages are opened Then the kundilini starts". Well this is what happened last week. 3 days after the rocking stopped.   I did a very long meditation, close to three hours, with no rocking, such comfort, so deep. so beautiful. i did not feel time pass.

Then right at the end, something strange happened. i felt something massive sort of explode inside, and as if the inside wanted to come out. first it was confusing, as i thought i was wanting to throw up. Then i realized this huge sort of explosion was coming from the navel area. it came up very fast. making me nauseous when it hit the head or was it somewhere near the throat? i dont remember it happened in seconds............it was so hard, that i had to bend over from my meditation position and grip the floor.

then as it went up...........i found i was loosing control of the brain, the explosion was so hard that i was becoming unconscious. I had to stop meditating, and use my escape mantra...............(given by a guru)............it was 15 minutes of struggle to stay conscious and calm down

The next day , i debated a lot whether to meditate or not, because of the previous day. then i said , dont fear, give it a shot.

and...........it was lovely. just drifted away smoothly to visions of the nature of the universe.

it was as if huge blocks were removed.....letting the  mind drift freely deeper.

as to the point of new blocks being created.I guess we have two options 1) move into a mountain so that new emotional  blocks dont accumulate. 2) or if you stay in the real world, emotional blocks will keep arising like ant hills and u have to keep knocking them down.

does it all make sense to you in your practice?

Regards to you

Hi Spark/Steve,

                     Things are moving fast . and i think you are right.( I think) , when the prana channels are clear the body stops rocking. which it did.

Now i am curious about your implied  statement."when the rocking stops because blockages are opened Then the kundilini starts". Well this is what happened last week. 3 days after the rocking stopped.   I did a very long meditation, close to three hours, with no rocking, such comfort, so deep. so beautiful. i did not feel time pass.

Then right at the end, something strange happened. i felt something massive sort of explode inside, and as if the inside wanted to come out. first it was confusing, as i thought i was wanting to throw up. Then i realized this huge sort of explosion was coming from the navel area. it came up very fast. making me nauseous when it hit the head or was it somewhere near the throat? i dont remember it happened in seconds............it was so hard, that i had to bend over from my meditation position and grip the floor.

then as it went up...........i found i was loosing control of the brain, the explosion was so hard that i was becoming unconscious. I had to stop meditating, and use my escape mantra...............(given by a guru)............it was 15 minutes of struggle to stay conscious and calm down

The next day , i debated a lot whether to meditate or not, because of the previous day. then i said , dont fear, give it a shot.

and...........it was lovely. just drifted away smoothly to visions of the nature of the universe.

it was as if huge blocks were removed.....letting the  mind drift freely deeper.

as to the point of new blocks being created.I guess we have two options 1) move into a mountain so that new emotional  blocks dont accumulate. 2) or if you stay in the real world, emotional blocks will keep arising like ant hills and u have to keep knocking them down.

does it all make sense to you in your practice?

Regards to you

@ xanth.
             Thank you shall have a look at it.

One of the meditations i practice is Trancendental Meditation.

All effort to focus the mind is probihited. Its to be left free and to transcend any physical elements ( no focus on breathing, third eye etc). so there is no focus on anything which is an inward out approach. So the mind becomes a receptor the the universe not a transmittor .

I like it. This has given me the biggest breakthroughs and visions

Any focus on anything is called contemplation not meditation. and a projection of the self , not a unbiased listener to the universe

@ pauli

Blockages of what and blockages _to_ what?

Dear pauli. there is a subtle cosmic force callled Prana that lies in the body. This prana has a subtle network of 76,000 channels. The main being 3 channels along the spine called . sushumna, ida and pingla, you can google and study them. When the prana( chi in chinese)  which lies latent in most people starts to flow, it encounters blocks in the long dormant channels. when these burst open . its leads to various symptoms for various people.

In the final stages of a completely realized person where all is opened . the body acquires a super divine state. Such advanced yogis dispense with the need to eat,drink water or sleep. when the prana flows free, the nature of its energy is self sufficient from any external need . So any outer dependence ( eg , food or water becomes redundant)

For What? this is the real inner wakening or awarness . along with the dissolution of the blocks comes abilities beyond natural humans, Its called the siddhas or gifts.

When you do concentration meditation, you may come across many colors, ( depending on the type of meditation, some meditate on nothingnesss, so you dont see colors ) .

The colors depend on which chakras are correcting, those colors flash.

But since you meditate on the third eye, it will come across as indigo.

The color of the third eye (ajna ) is indigo. so dont be surprised if it appears. along with it will come the development of psychic abilities.

The vibrations come as your body goes into deeper meditation.

At first it will be a sort of pleasurable vibration when you feel the blood flow throughout the body, but as you go deeper. you get the vibrations of a mantra you may use, even deeper is the vibrations of the chakra you focus on

Everything in the universe and observable realms is pure vibration.

as you go deeper into yourself u will come across various levels of vibration, in the final stages all vibrations die down and there is only silence and bliss

Hope it helps

if it helps anyone in any way, here goes.........

What is the difference between prana and kundalini? What is the difference between qi (or chi) and kundalini?

First let us try to relate to concepts from the same tradition - prana and kundalini. Prana has been translated as the ``vital breath'' and ``bio-energetic motility''; it is associated with maintaining the functioning of the mind and body. Kundalini, in its form as prana-kundalini, is identical to prana ; however, Kundalini also has a manifestations as consciousness and a as a unifying cosmic energy. One could ascribe these same aspects to prana as well so past a certain point these become distinctions without differences.

From the subjective standpoint of an individual actually experiencing the awakening of kundalini I have found three completely different opinions:
The first opinion is that a pranic awakening is only a prelude to a full kundalini awakening. Tibetan yogins that I have encountered consider the activation of prana (Tibetan: rlung) as merely a prerequisite for the activation of kundalini (Tibetan: gTummo). What's attractive about this viewpoint is that it explains the difference between the experience of simply having pleasant sensations in the spine and the much more powerful experience of having a ``freight-train''-like full kundalini experience.
The second opinion, espoused by Swami Shivom Tirth for example, is that prana and kundalini are absolutely equivalent and that it is not meaningful in any way to describe a difference between kundalini rising and prana rising. When posed with question as to how to distinguish between pleasant sensations that show some pranic-activity in the spine and the much more powerful experience Swami Shivom Tirth said that the difference is not in the nature of the activity but in the consciousness that observes it. If the consciousness that experiences the pranic activity is seated within the spine (or more correctly, the central channel, known as the sushumna), then the experience is felt much more powerfully.
The third opinion, espoused by the modern hatha yogin, Desikaran, is that pranic awakening is the true experience to be aimed for and kundalini is actually an obstruction. Desikaran sees the kundalini as a block in the central channel and thus the kundalini must be ``killed'' to make way for the prana. This is the most unusual view of the three.

The Chinese concept of qi (or chi) can be safely identified with the Indian concept of prana.

If all this seems confusing - don't worry, you're in good company. My conclusion is that these are all different terminologies for dealing with a common set of experiences. Any one of these viewpoints is adequate for describing the full range of experiences. What is probably more relevant is to distinguish two different experiences which are often confused. In one an individual experiences some pleasant energizing electric energy running along the spine. This experience itself brings about a wide range of experiences and results in vitality and sensitivity. Another very distinct experience is the experience of kundalini entering the sushumna and rising up the spine. As soon as kundalini enters the sushumna this experience will completely overwhelm ordinary waking consciousness. From the moment that kundalini enters the sushumna there will no longer be a distrinction between the subjective consciousness which experiences and the object of experience. This experience much more profoundly transfigures consciousness.

http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~keutzer/kundalini/kundalini-faq.html#1b

Ask what your goal is.

Ask also why there are such movements.

Pauli, meditation without a goal is largely pointless. You have to set a motivation before the individual meditation and the entire process of meditating for years. Then its focussed. Even if you say I meditate on nothingness , its a goal. In sanskrit its called sankalpa. You set a wish, you ask for the blessing of gurus/friendly spirits/guides, whatever people  call it. . Its the difference between saying, I will one day attain x versus , i will start walking but i dont know where.

The second answer to the why, is the blockages.

My query was more in the nature of , what have others gone through and also share experiences for others who may come searching later in such forums.

regards

What is the difference between prana and kundalini? What is the difference between qi (or chi) and kundalini?

First let us try to relate to concepts from the same tradition - prana and kundalini. Prana has been translated as the ``vital breath'' and ``bio-energetic motility''; it is associated with maintaining the functioning of the mind and body. Kundalini, in its form as prana-kundalini, is identical to prana ; however, Kundalini also has a manifestations as consciousness and a as a unifying cosmic energy. One could ascribe these same aspects to prana as well so past a certain point these become distinctions without differences.

From the subjective standpoint of an individual actually experiencing the awakening of kundalini I have found three completely different opinions:
The first opinion is that a pranic awakening is only a prelude to a full kundalini awakening. Tibetan yogins that I have encountered consider the activation of prana (Tibetan: rlung) as merely a prerequisite for the activation of kundalini (Tibetan: gTummo). What's attractive about this viewpoint is that it explains the difference between the experience of simply having pleasant sensations in the spine and the much more powerful experience of having a ``freight-train''-like full kundalini experience.
The second opinion, espoused by Swami Shivom Tirth for example, is that prana and kundalini are absolutely equivalent and that it is not meaningful in any way to describe a difference between kundalini rising and prana rising. When posed with question as to how to distinguish between pleasant sensations that show some pranic-activity in the spine and the much more powerful experience Swami Shivom Tirth said that the difference is not in the nature of the activity but in the consciousness that observes it. If the consciousness that experiences the pranic activity is seated within the spine (or more correctly, the central channel, known as the sushumna), then the experience is felt much more powerfully.
The third opinion, espoused by the modern hatha yogin, Desikaran, is that pranic awakening is the true experience to be aimed for and kundalini is actually an obstruction. Desikaran sees the kundalini as a block in the central channel and thus the kundalini must be ``killed'' to make way for the prana. This is the most unusual view of the three.

The Chinese concept of qi (or chi) can be safely identified with the Indian concept of prana.

If all this seems confusing - don't worry, you're in good company. My conclusion is that these are all different terminologies for dealing with a common set of experiences. Any one of these viewpoints is adequate for describing the full range of experiences. What is probably more relevant is to distinguish two different experiences which are often confused. In one an individual experiences some pleasant energizing electric energy running along the spine. This experience itself brings about a wide range of experiences and results in vitality and sensitivity. Another very distinct experience is the experience of kundalini entering the sushumna and rising up the spine. As soon as kundalini enters the sushumna this experience will completely overwhelm ordinary waking consciousness. From the moment that kundalini enters the sushumna there will no longer be a distrinction between the subjective consciousness which experiences and the object of experience. This experience much more profoundly transfigures consciousness.

@ spark.
             Did check with some meditation gurus. its the prana (chi for chinese) flowing and opening up blockages.

its completely died down now. did three things. 1) Pranayama (breathing exercises) coupled with a few key yoga asanas to physically work on the blocks..............2) If you can meet Mother meera, she touches ur temples and stares a few seconds in your eyes and busts many blocks within...............i saw her pumping people with white light since i can see auras. She lives in germany.

dont know which one worked, but it did. the very next day it died.

You are right, more than crowds , when there was meditating groups, the prana flows stronger. near divine places and old trees.

Spark i have meditated long enough to know , never get worked up, just let go and flow with it. which i did.

I do feel now relieved that the block has been busted. I can sit now for hours in so much ease.

I shall post a new entry between the difference between the kundalini and the prana. Its not very clearly differentiated between all schools. The most interesting one seems the kundilini, is when the prana moves in ths sushumna channel in the spine, the most important channel.

Another describes the prana as the pre activity of the kundalini.

The third says the difference is not in the activity, but in the observer , If he observes it in the spine then its kundalini.

I am not sure the chinese texts can explain this , as the chinese have boiled everything down to chi .( I used to practice Qigong). its because they dont have a differentiate between Chi and kundalini. the explanations are simple.

In sanskrit texts however there is a very very subtle differentiation. The tibetan buddhists however differentiate between the two by saying chi is mild and the freight train experience is kundalini.

Thank you spark. for your inputs..............it was a full 6 months before it stopped . I was told for many it takes years.

It may start again as i run into new blocks.

But the keys that work for me is 1) 20 minutes of yoga, mostly aimed at the spine 2) 10 minutes of pranayama ( as prescribed by a qualified guru. 3) if all fails . Head for Mother Meera, and let her bust the blocks in a few seconds.

Regards

Dear contentio,
                     Have you had such experiences? do you meditate? I worry about  "experts" who give explanations with no personal experience, to search for explanations in isolation is brain dead simple. I could even come up with explanations such as , Lightening struck me to i saw lights flashing within me. Or someone hits me with a base ball bat on my head so i see lights.Or i have a severe congenital weaknesses, or i ate barium in contaminated vegetables and my nerves are having short circuits . i could go on with creative theoretical explanations . I have a masters in sciences , and trust me i can come up with many "logical " explanations 

It would also be hard for the scientists to prove if i claim that the sun is the center of the universe and does not move , and all the galaxies revolve around it.

If you did undergo these experiences , you may realize its not just a sight only phenomenon. there are massive physiological changes all over the body. the visions are not eye based at alllllllllllllll. it the inner mind and a sudden expansion there where its a complete all pervasive and integrated experience

There is a reason Yogis meditate in Himalayas for over 10,000 years and walk out with powers that defy all laws of nature as we know it. and a simple, eyes relax and we see flashes does not explain all.

But then its hard to explain all to someone who does not meditate and has not had these experiences

Sorry i dont mean to be rude, I have a scientific back ground and am aware of the short comings of science as it stands today. and i worry when scientists run around trying to explain everything with the art still in its infancy

Regards

Hi spiritual 86,
                     I think we are in the same boat. Previously i used to meditate on emptiness and had lots of direct visions there , Now i have started a new mantra . And i too get to see colors. first it was red , then yellow, now i get a frequent combination of green sometimes, violet sometimes blue sometimes. But its mostly  violet . I guess the answers apply to me too, interesting

Thanks

I guess its common enough  feeding off the  the responses on this string, I experience two types of white lights

1) Floating through this white lit tunnel , with very very soft,  just a bit off-white luminescent walls , Its so blissful , so soft and one feels like its a beautiful soft dream

2) Then there is the stationary extremely powerful white light than comes on from somewhere on top of ur head , from inside. This white light is so blinding, that although the eyes are closed and its shining seemingly inside your head , it literally hurts the eyes , with the intensity of its power ,and the brilliance of the white. its so powerful it can disrupt the meditation.

3) You float through this darkness like u are loose in space with the little stars (glow worms) drifting past you , like u r a silent space ship floating silently in space

4) Sometimes you approach this wall that is blacker than black. A black that no known language can describe . although its empty, u feel a force field , and as you come close to it, the cells in your entire body, every single one , seems like its all electrified with extremely high voltage, every cell is alive. You start gasping for breath, you feel your lungs are starved, and you are drowning in water, You  fight hard to stay in meditation till you break out of it gasping for breath. Its like u hit a invisible force field and were thrown out

The point still is ................you are supposed to ignore all this and keep hacking away at your meditation.

Just wanting to know anyone out there who finds this familiar?, anyone smashed through that intense dark invisible force field? What lies beyond?

regards

Hi Spark,
            Thank you so much for the offer, Could we do it online as all who have the same benefit.

Chi is a Chinese term translated in yogic literature  as Prana, we shall not get into semantics,Its roughly the same thing.

The rocking was not mild Spark, it was extremely intense. To the point that my solid old teak wood bed ( I bought from bali) was creaking and shaking. because my body was shifting it on the floor.

After an hour of body shaking , your brain seems like its floating away with all the violent rocking. The hands twitch and float away. (physically)

If you do have some light on this please share. I did share with some meditation masters here , I have received inputs , now at will i can shut it down. although to be honest , when i sit next to these masters , even with my eyes open, while talking to them my body rocks even though there is no meditation and I am having a conversation. I also see the same in a few secret meditative ashrams hidden away from "spiritual tourists" . It only when I am next to these powerful people or spiritually significant places the rock is spontaneous , even in an normal seated position eyes wide open and having conversations

There is a tendency to lift and nearly fly off the ground. the feeling is i am on the verge of a physical take off.

When i ask  questions . there is a rock, we can almost talk and it answers, leading me to feel its an intelligent force.

I have read a fair amount of literature on Kundalini awakening body symptoms. and the answer is always the same , everyone has different neurological symptoms depending on karmas etc, so its different for different people.

I have been through , intense heat, like your body is inside a steel furnace, you want to nearly scream and your eyes become blood shot, intense sweating, sudden cold till you shiver as if you are naked in snow while its mid summer, ants biting you all over the body.....................all these happened many years back and all died away over time.

This is new for the last 6 months.

Now my strategy is to set a motivation with my gurus and deities, which takes 6 to 7 minutes. After the motivation the rocking stops and u soar away into sublime depths.  But the time of setting the motivation still rocks (lol for the pun). It takes a second, as i close my eyes its instantaneous (less than a second). The interesting aspect is when i finish the motivation the rocking stops, again a sign of it seeming to respond to requests.

Share what you can. I like to listen to everyone

Thank you

Question: Involuntary Movement During Meditation

Been reading forums to get an answer or a shared experience

Most are lucky , People are reporting have gentle movements or rocking of the body . I have violent movements almost within minutes of sitting in meditation. Its back and forth, then sideways like a snake dancing. Sometimes the hips rock so violently my large solid teak wood  bed shakes and creaks, then the vibration rises to the waist, chest, shoulders then head, like a force field rising from the hips to the head

This vibration distracts the meditation, if you pay attention to it, it stops , if you keep the focus , it increases. The trick is to stay focussed.

Thrice I tried to stop the upper body shaking. It was as if i was trapping the energy in the base of the spine. The base of my spine vibrated so hard , like a radio run amok with the frequency increasing dramatically and fast. It became so hard, i thought the base of my spine would explode and spit out bones. The moment i let the top of the body vibrate , the spine became calm.

You can talk to the vibration mentally and ask questions , it answers you by changes in rocking patterns. This to me indicated an intelligent force.

This is perhaps the kundalini rising.

The most important point to remember is . this is just a symptom on the way, dont pay attention to it. Keep focussed on the goal.

Its the prana running through the nadis and clearing blocks.

Invariably when you come out. your mind is calm and your body at ease, Many people who have had diseases , have found relief.

Is this only me? having violent rocking and vibrations ? or are there others out there?

sanjayrao1010