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I just found the really old forums. Seeing them again made me shed a tear.

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For the last couple of months, i've been collecting hypnosis guides. I have a small collection so i'll organize them into one area for others to take advantage of.

http://www.bcx.net/hypnosis/script.htm
http://www.ukhypnosis.com/ProgRela.htm
http://members.aol.com/DonJohnR/Hypnosis/BriefSH.html


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If I find more, i'll add.

I was happy. My girlfriend and I had been dating for over a year, and so we decided to get married. My parents helped us in every way, my friends encouraged me, and my girlfriend? She was a dream!

There was only one thing bothering me, quite much indeed, and that was my mother-in-law to be. She was a career woman, smart, but most of all beautiful and sexy, who sometimes flirted me, which made me feel uncomfortable.

One day she called me and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations. So I went. She was alone, and when I arrived, she whispered to me, that soon I was to be married, and she had feelings and desires for
me that she couldn't overcome. So before I got married and committed my life to her daughter, she wanted to make love to me just once!

What could I say?

I was in total shock, and couldn't say a word. So, she said, I'll go to the bedroom, and if you are up for it, just come and get me. She then went upstairs.

I stood there for a moment, and then turned around and went to the front door... I opened it, and stepped out of the house.
Her husband was standing outside, and with tears in his eyes, hugged me and said, "we are very happy and pleased, you have passed our little test. We couldn't have asked for a better man for our daughter. Welcome to the family. "

Moral of the story:

Always keep your condoms in your car.

***Reprinted from a joke site.

I first learned of OBE's when I was about eleven years old, and at the time I feared them greatly. I equated OBE's with temporary death and I did not want to delve into something which may of ended my life prematurely.

These days I could care less if I die from an OBE or anything else(not as morbid as it sounds, I just have a different view of life then most, and no I am not reckless in my daily life).

My question(s) to you:

How old were you when you first learned of OBE's?

Did you fear them?

If so, what lifted your fears?

If not, why?

Who here has actually used the N.E.W. method for a fairly long time(lets say more then two years)?

Have you noticed any benefits?

...could someone from Scotland(or roundabouts) tell me what deep fried mars bars taste like. Also a recipe would help. I have to try this and healthy living is overrated.

...what comes to mind when you read this poem.

November Graveyard

The scene stands stubborn: skinflint trees
Hoard last year's leaves, won't mourn, wear sackcloth, or turn
To elegiac dryads, and dour grass
Guards the hard-hearted emerald of its grassiness
However the grandiloquent mind may scorn
Such poverty. No dead men's cries

Flower forget-me-nots between the stones
Paving this grave ground. Here's honest rot
To unpick the heart, pare bone
Free of the fictive vein. When one stark skeleton
Bulks real, all saint's tongues fall quiet:
Flies watch no reserrections in the sun.

At the essential landscape stare, stare
Till your eyes foist a vision dazzling on the wind:
Whatever lost ghosts flare
Damned, howling in their shrouds across the moor
Rave on the leash of the starving mind
Which peoples the bare room, the blank, untenanted air.

It's by Sylvia Plath and I need to know for a website im making.

I was just cleaning my closet and found something I thought was thrown out years ago: a ouija board.

I only used it a couple of times, can't remember if anything happened.

I then went here to read stories about them:
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/default.asp?action=cat11

So my question. Anyone here use, and have a bad experience with one?

It's been 3 years of trying, two OBE's but only one clearly and a lucid dream helped me with that one. I have discovered the simple fact that I cannot lie still and wait an hour for my mind to fall asleep.

Therefore I have decided to scrap the whole process and try another technique. Self-hypnosis. It's essentially the same thing, except I get to concentrate on my own voice speaking within my head. I do not have to worry about whether or not im breaking concentration(the old way had me wondering the whole time if I was falling into trance yet), nor do I have to worry about talking to myself(the old way screwed me up here when my thoughts began to wonder). Instead of concentrating on a single though or feeling, I talk to myself and guide myself deeper into a trance.

I've tried this two nights with 100% succuss. I've never been so deep in trance before. But last night was more intense. After a few minutes of guiding myself I decided to switch to body awareness and feel as though I was falling. I cannot believe how deep I was, and it happened within about 10 minutes of trying. It's too bad I was "shocked" back to reality when my brother slammed a door(which was a very strange feeling. It sort of felt like someone had poured ice water on me, without the cold feeling. I couldn't stop breathing in shallow breathes and I my body started to lightly convulse. I've never experienced that before.

I will try again tonight, and when I feel confident in my ability, I will begin my OBE training again.

I wrote this for people who have trouble with the technique in astral dynamics. I have taken that technique and combined it with self-hypnosis and I believe I have finally found the solution to the problem which has held me back for so long.

Here is the link to the site about self-hynosis:
http://www.blahzone.com/hypnosis/about.html

What I did was to integrate body awareness into self-hynosis. I beleive that the hypnosis part is fine for the begining, but for OBE purposes, it could not work out as well. Towards the end of the self-hypnosis part, I switched to a falling feeling and I stopped talking to myself. By the time I switch I was already in a light trance and very relaxed, so it was easy for me to start the method discussed in Astral Dynamics. I fell deeper into trance until I felt like I was shrouded by complete darkness,(if anyone has played final fantasy 7, the beginning cinematic with the starfield is a good indication of what it look and sort of felt like) and after awhile it looked like I was gaining perception depth within the shadow.

Again this has helped me, so please if anyone has tried this before, or if you do try it, please share.

Well, it's time for another end of the world scenerio. This one courtesy of a certain planet getting too close to earth.  

Below is my rendition of the coming doom:



It took me 3 minutes to make that so I believe it's just as credible as any other photo out there.

Anyhoo, what are your plans for the big day? Im going to hide in my closet, where planet x won't think to look for me.

http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv

My results:

Purgatory

---------------------------------------------------------------------

You have escaped damnation and made it to Purgatory, a place where the dew of repentance washes off the stain of sin and girds the spirit with humility. Through contrition, confession, and satisfaction by works of righteousness, you must make your way up the mountain. As the sins are cleansed from your soul, you will be illuminated by the Sun of Divine Grace, and you will join other souls, smiling and happy, upon the summit of this mountain. Before long you will know the joys of Paradise as you ascend to the ethereal realm of Heaven.

The Dante's Inferno Test has sent you to Purgatory!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very High
Level 1 - Limbo | Moderate
Level 2 | Low
Level 3 | High
Level 4 | Low
Level 5 | Moderate
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very Low
Level 7 | Moderate
Level 8- the Malebolge | Moderate
Level 9 - Cocytus | Very Low

http://jrlweb.com/tmp/cavestory/index.htm

May take awhile to read but it freaked me out.

Im pretty sure it's fake but an interesting one at that.

Anyone know any fictional books on death, dying, or the afterlife? I have What Dreams May Come and im trying to get a book called The Great Divorce. Im trying to start a collection.

[Corpse lands on kids]

Corpse lands on kids

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003131780,00.html

I feel bad for the kids but it does have a Simpsons-esque kinda quality to it.

I've noticed that alot of people on this forum come from the u.k or area's nearby. Im planning to move to Ireland or England for about a year, next year. Im trying to decided so I can start making plans. Anyway, for those who live there or have been there, what are the pros and cons.

Strange question but i've never been more than a hundred miles from where I was born so living overseas is something i'd rather not rush into.

I just read an article about father Gabriel Amorth. I noticed that Robert Bruce had him listed in PPSD as a bibliography source. Anyone know more about him?


On the bumpy flight to Rome I read The Bible all the way. The passenger on my left - a wiry businesswoman from Wisconsin - found this disconcerting. As the turbulence worsened and I moved from Jude to Revelation, she hissed at me, "Do you have to?" "It's only background reading," I murmured. She grimaced. "What for?" I turned to her and whispered: "I'm going to meet the exorcist." "Oh Christ," she gasped, as the plane lurched and hot coffee spilled over us.

Father Gabriele Amorth is indeed the exorcist, the most senior and respected member of his calling. A priest for 50 years, he is the undisputed leader of the city's six exorcists (appointed by the cardinal to whom the Pope delegates the office of Vicar of Rome) and honorary president-for-life of the International Association of Exorcists. He is 75, small, spry, humorous, and wonderfully direct.

"I speak with the Devil every day," he says, grinning like a benevolent gargoyle. "I talk to him in Latin. He answers in Italian. I have been wrestling with him, day in day out, for 14 years."

On cue (God is not worried by clichés) a shaft of October sunlight falls across Father Amorth's pale, round face. We are sitting at a table by the window in a small high-ceilinged meeting room at his Rome headquarters, the offices of the Society of St Paul. Father Amorth has come to exorcism late in life, but with impressive credentials. Born in 1925 in Modena, northern Italy, the son and grandson of lawyers (his brother is a judge), Gabriele Amorth, in his late teens, joined the Italian resistance.

Immediately after the war, he became a member of the fledgling Christian Democratic Party. Giulo Andreotti was president of the Young Christian Democrats, Amorth was his deputy. Andreotti went into politics and was seven times prime minister. Amorth, having studied law at university, went into the Church.

"From the age of 15," be says, "I knew it was my true vocation. My speciality was the Madonna. For many years I edited the magazine Madre di Deo (Mother of God). When I hear people say, 'You Catholics honour Mary too much,' I reply, 'We are never able to honour her enough.'

"I knew nothing of exorcism - I had given it no thought - until June 6, 1986 when Cardinal Poletti, the then Vicar of Rome, asked to see me. There was a famous exorcist in Rome then, the only one, Father Candido, but he was not well, and Cardinal Poletti told me I was to be his assistant. I learnt everything from Father Candido. He was my great master. Quickly I realised how much work there was to be done and how few exorcists there were to do it. From that day, I dropped everything and dedicated myself entirely to exorcism."

Father Amorth smiles continually as he tells his story. His enthusiasm for his subject is infectious and engaging. "Jesus performed exorcisms. He cast out demons. He freed souls from demonic possession and from Him the Church has received the power and office of exorcism. A simple exorcism is performed at every baptism, but major exorcism can be performed only by a priest licensed by the bishop. I have performed over 50,000 exorcisms. Sometimes it takes a few minutes, sometimes many hours. It is hard work multo duro."

How does he recognise someone possessed by evil spirits? "It is not easy. There are many grades of possession. The Devil does not like to be seen, so there are people who are possessed who manage to conceal it. There are other cases where the person possessed is in acute physical pain, such agony that they cannot move.
"It is essential not to confuse demonic possession with ordinary illness. The symptoms of possession often include violent headaches and stomach cramps, but you must always go to the doctor before you go to the exorcist. I have people come to me who are not possessed at all. They are suffering from epilepsy or schizophrenia or other mental problems. Of the thousands of patients I have seen, only a hundred or so have been truly possessed."

"How can you tell?"

"By their aversion to the sacrament and all things sacred. If blessed they become furious. If confronted with the crucifix, they are subdued." "But couldn't an hysteric imitate the symptoms?"

"We can sort out the phoney ones. We look into their eyes. As part of the exorcism, at specific times during the prayers, holding two fingers on the patient's eyes we raise the eyelids. Almost always, in cases of evil presence, the eyes look completely white. Even with the help of both hands, we can barely discern whether the pupils are towards the top or the bottom of the eye. If the pupils are looking up, the demons in possession are scorpions. If looking down, they are serpents."

As I report this now, it sounds absurd. As Father Amorth told it to me, it felt entirely credible.

I had gone to Rome expecting - hoping, even - for a chilling encounter, but instead of a sinister bug-eyed obsessive lurking in the shadows of a Hammer Horror film set, here I was sitting in an airy room facing a kindly old man with an uncanny knack for making the truly bizarre seem wholly rational. He has God on his side and customers at his door. The demand for exorcism is growing as never before. Fifteen years ago there were 20 church-appointed exorcists in Italy. Now there are 300.

I ask Father Amorph to describe the ritual of exorcism.

"Ideally, the exorcist needs another priest to help him and a group nearby who will assist through prayer. The ritual does not specify the stance of the exorcist. Some stand, some sit. The ritual says only that, beginning with the words Ecce crucem Domini ('Behold the Cross of the Lord') the priest should touch the neck of the possessed one with the hem of his stole and hold his hand on his head. The demons will want to hide. Our task is to expose them, and then expel them. There are many ways to goad them into showing themselves. Although the ritual does not mention this, experience has taught us that using oil and holy water and salt can be very effective.

"Demons are wary of talking and must be forced to speak. When demons are voluntarily chatty it's a trick to distract the exorcist. We must never ask useless questions out of curiosity. We but must interrogate with care. We always begin by asking for the demon's name."

"And does he answer?" I ask. Father Amorth nods. "Yes, through the patient, but in a strange, unnatural voice. If it is the Devil himself, he says 'I am Satan, or Lucifer, or Beelzebub. We ask if he is alone or if there are others with him. Usually there are two or five, 20 or 30. We must quantify the number. We ask when and how they entered that particular body. We find out whether their presence is due to a spell and the specifics of that spell.

"During the exorcism the evil may emerge in slow stages or with sudden explosions. He does not want show himself. He will be angry and he is strong. During one exorcism I saw a child of 11 held down by four strong men. The child threw the men aside with ease. I was there when a boy of 10 lifted a huge, heavy table.

"Afterwards I felt the muscles in the boy's arms. He could not have done it on his own. He had the strength of the Devil inside him.

"No two cases are the same. Some patients have to be tied down on a bed. They spit. They vomit. At first the demon will try to demoralise the exorcist, then he will try to terrify him, saying, 'Tonight I'm going to put a serpent between your sheets. Tomorrow I'm going to eat your heart'."

I lean towards Father Amorth. "And are you sometimes frightened?" I ask. He looks incredulous. "Never. I have faith. I laugh at the demon and say to him, 'I've got the Madonna on my side. I am called Gabriel. Go fight the Archangel Gabriel if you will.' That usually shuts them up."

Now he leans towards me and taps my hand confidentially. "The secret is to find your demon's weak spot. Some demons cannot bear to have the Sign of the Cross traced with a stole on an aching part of the body; some cannot stand a puff of breath on the face; others resist with all their strength against blessing with holy water.

"Relief for the patient is always possible, but to completely rid a person of his demons can take many exorcisms over many years. For a demon to leave a body and go back to hell means to die forever and to lose any ability to molest people in the future. He expresses his desperation saying: 'I am dying, I am dying. You are killing me; you have won. All priests are murderers'."

How do people come to be possessed by demons in the first place? "I believe God sometimes singles out certain souls for a special test of spiritual endurance, but more often people lay themselves open to possession by dabbling with black magic. Some are entrapped by a satanic cult. Others are the victims of a curse."

I interrupt. "You mean like Yasser Arafat saying to Ehud Barak, 'Go to Hell' and meaning it?"

"No." Father Amorth gives me a withering look. "That is merely a sudden imprecation. It is very difficult to perform a curse. You need to be a priest of Satan to do it properly. Of course, just as you can hire a killer if you need one, you can hire a male witch to utter a curse on your behalf. Most witches are frauds, but I am afraid some authentic ones do exist."

Father Amorth shakes his head and sighs at the wickedness of the world. At the outset be has told me he is confident he will have an answer to all my questions, but he has a difficulty with the next one. "Why do many more women seem to become possessed than men?"

"Ah, that we do not know. They may be more vulnerable because, as a rule, more women than men are interested in the occult. Or it may be the Devil's way of getting at men, just as he got to Adam through Eve. What we do know is that the problem is getting worse. The Devil is gaining ground. We are living in an age when faith is diminishing. If you abandon God, the Devil will take his place.

"All faiths, all cultures, have exorcists, but only Christianity has the true force to exorcise through Christ's example and authority. We need many more exorcists, but the bishops won't appoint them. In many countries - Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Spain there are no Catholic exorcists. It is a scandal. In England there are more Anglican exorcists than Catholic ones."

Although the post of exorcist is an official diocesan appointment (there are about 300 attached to the various bishops throughout Italy) and Father Amorth is undisputably the best known in his field, there is some tension between Amorth and the modernising tendencies in the Church hierarchy.

Devil-hunting is not fashionable in senior church circles. The Catholic establishment is happier talking about "the spirit of evil" than evil spirits. The Vatican recently issued a new rite of exorcism which has not met with Father Amorth's approval. "They say we cannot perform an exorcism unless we know for certain that the Evil One is present. That is ridiculous. It is only through exorcism that the demons reveal themselves. An unnecessary exorcism never hurt anybody."

What does the Pope make of all this? "The Holy Father knows that the Devil is still alive and active in the world. He has performed exorcism. In 1982, he performed a solemn exorcism on a girl from Spoletto. She screamed and rolled on the floor. Those who saw it were very frightened. The Pope brought her temporary freedom.
"The other day, on September 6, at his weekly audience at St Peter's, a young woman from a village near Monza started to shriek as the Pope was about to bless her. She shouted obscenities at him in a strange voice. The Pope blessed her and brought her relief, but the Devil is still in her. She is exorcised each week in Milan and she is now coming to me once a month. It may take a long time to help her, but we must try. The work of the exorcists is to relieve suffering, to free souls from torment, to bring us closer to God."

Father Amorth has laughed and smiled a good deal during our three-hour discussion. He has pulled sundry rude faces to indicate his contempt for the pusillanimous bishops who have a monopoly on exorcism and refuse to license more practitioners. In his mouth it does not seem like mumbo-jumbo or hocus-pocus. He produces detailed case histories. He quotes scriptural chapter and verse to justify his actions. And he has a large following. His book, An Exorcist Tells his Story, has been reprinted in Italy 17 times.

Given his shining faith and scholarly approach, I hardly dare ask him whether he has seen the notorious 1973 horror film, The Exorcist. It turns out to be his favourite film. "Of course, the special effects are exaggerated. but it is a good film, and substantially exact, based on a respectable novel which mirrored a true story."

The film is held to be so disturbing it has never been shown [until recently] on British terrestrial television and until last year could not even be rented from video shops. None the less, Father Amorth recommends it. "People need to know what we do."

And what about hallowe'en? The American tradition has made no inroads in Italy. "Here it is on Christmas Eve that the Satanists have their orgies. Nothing happens on October 31. But if English and American children like to dress up as witches and devils on one night of the year that is not a problem. If it is just a game, there is no harm in that.''

It is time to go to the chapel where our photographer is waiting. Father Atnorth, used to the ways of the press, raises an eyebrow at us indulgently as he realises the photograph is designed to heighten the drama of his calling. Pictures taken, he potters off to find me of one ot his books.

"What do make of him?'' asks the photographer. "Is he mad?"

"I don't think so,'' I say. The award-winning Daily and Sunday Telegraph Rome correspondent, who has acted as interpreter br the interview, and is both a lapsed Catholic and a hardened hack, is more empathic: "There's not a trace of the charlatan about him. He is quite sane and utterly convincing."

Surprised at myself I add: "He seems to me to be a power for good in the world." With a smirk, the photographer loads his gear into the back of the taxi. ''So he's Peter Cushing then, not Christopher Lee," he says.

Father Amorth reappears with his book and smiles. "Remember, when we jeer at the Devil and tell ourselves that he does not exist, that is when he is happiest."

http://users3.ev1.net/~eekfrenzy/captionspage/badfotrcaptionsx.html

Goto that site, funniest thing i've seen in awhile.

Is there/has there been/are there plans to have a chat interface on this site. It would be interesting to have the feature on the site but im not sure how much use it would get....

"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." St. Thomas Aquinas

A few days ago I heard that Mel Gibson is making a movie about the last few hours of the life of Jesus. After investigating further I learned that it's based on the visions of a woman named Anne Catherine Emmerich. In the visions she sees many things but the only information I could find was that of the last few hours of Jesus' life. Something of interest is her vision of hell, which is quite long, but a good read. Even if your not a Christian, these meditations and visions are an interesting read, whether true or not. If you are a Christian it may help you understand a little of the pain and agony Jesus went through.

http://www.emmerich1.com/DOLOROUS_PASSION_OF_OUR_LORD_JESUS_CHRIST.htm



"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." St. Thomas Aquinas

Found this little test:
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv

My results surprised me somewhat.....

Disorder | Rating
Paranoid: Very High
Schizoid: High
Schizotypal: Very High
Antisocial: High
Borderline: Moderate
Histrionic: Moderate
Narcissistic: Very High
Avoidant: Very High
Dependent: Moderate
Obsessive-Compulsive: High

"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." St. Thomas Aquinas

.... the desire to struggle?

My life, as with the lives of other people, has it's share of difficulties. Everyday I face something I would rather not face and sometimes the problem in question drags out for weeks or months. However when it is over I immediately search my mind for something else to worry about. I've talked  to several other people and that seems to be the case with them as well.

Lets say that we were put on this earth to learn. Does the idea that we seek further troubles without realizing it imply that this is true? Or is it just another side of the human essence.

It seems that throughout life we try to reach a status of happiness, but we make more problems or seek more problems to replace those we solved, or we add to those we haven't. Awhile ago I went through a hard time and it took about one minute to find another problem to take it's place. I felt like I was empty without.

Im not really sure about using the word "we" so I want to ask you:

Do we make life harder for ourselves when it doesn't need to be? Do we let the little things get to us on purpose?

"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." St. Thomas Aquinas

Im writing a fairly long story and to do this I need inspiration. What I usually do is write while listening to the music and the moods the song gives off often make it into my stories. Due to the nature of this book I need songs that are somewhat soft but tense and perhaps slow too. It would also be nice if there were no words in it at all(not that important).

To get an idea of what im looking for:

Phillip Glass- Facades
David Lanz- Christophori's Dream
Godfather Finale- Nino Rota?

This my seem like a strange request but I celebrate my unusual nature so if anyone has any personal favorites, please tell.

Also if anyone has information about a certain orphanage in the states that burned down recently(stories true or fiction, really doesn't matter) I would be most pleased. It's called St. Elizabeths. Here some pictures:

http://oboylephoto.com/girls_school/girls_school2.htm#top

From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king.

I remember seeing this a few months ago on some website, may of been on this one. Anyway I got this version from:

http://www.christianmystics.com/letterfromgod.shtml

Thought it might be an interesting read.





From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king.

Im just curious as to peoples luck with mole removals as shown in PPSD. I drew the diagram on my arm about a week ago and im glad to say the damn mole is on it's way back to wherever it came from.

Anyone else try it and if so any luck?

Also is it wise to put multiply diagrams on different parts of my body at one time?

Ferrari, maybe?