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How does one go about projecting?
do you start with lucid dreams and go from there?

oh by the way, i am in love very deply right now and things between us seem to go perfectly-if you want to consider the source, you know, we make other people jealous and wonder about their own matchups just by being together. we are very close and very deeply attached to each other...i mean we enjoy each other...just even making up things to laugh about together stuff like that-but we are wiedos foh shoh-anyways he came along just as i ended another relationship where my partner was "the equal opposite" or some retarded such nonesensical-thing and said to myself, you know i have seen too many people who seem to form the left and right hemispheres of a brain...each of them kinda behaving like a half wit, seriously! ugh!  or relationships where they just did not have similiar interests nor did they work well together, but actually diluted each other's strengths-or just plain didnt find one another interesting...some folks sorta think of it as balancing and perhaps maybe certain qualities of the one would undo them should they be allowed to partner with someone very similiar...but i think that is bs actually, for i formed the conclusion based on several examples of irritating unions i saw around me and situations in my own life that i didnt need to be kept safe from myself and a lover didnt need to be my protector-nor give me whatver it is i dont have!! i never realized i had just sorta accepted some seriously silly examples as just the norm or the only reality possible but as soon as i confronted this that is when things got better!! furthermore i totally decided that fellows who need a 'helper' to keep them safe whew! right off the bat, they surely should be avoided for that is just codependence awaitin' to happen! oh and finally...perhaps when surrounded and immersed in your love it is hard to know what you feel haha...because relatively it has just become the everyday...only when withdrawn would you feel that same yearning for closeness when you were first getting to know each other...and perhaps people avoid certain changes in themselves before their lover whom they feel knows them so well, as it could be threatening to everything- that sorta goes back to the other parts of yourself commentary...and finding other sides to them that arent necessarily played up by your relationship but rather, sort of never get encouragement or any noticing.

people in tantra report heart orgasms....and a very calm, relaxed feeling of well being- not the sort of insatiable just want more addictive aspects of our dopamine rush based sex which it very much seems that our society is presenting as the reality or something i cant knock it you know!it is fun, but if you are experienceing trouble with your feelings it makes uber sense to look into this matter through tantra i am thinking! good luck remember: oxytocin vsdopamine and tantra....these are my points to add for you. Good luck sir!

then too, there is the matter of the "dopamine rush"..if you look into studies of tantra they will surely discuss this, the differences between the love oxytocin love and the dopamine rush....the dopamine rush is responsible for fetishes, for the love hangover, sort of and all sorts of adrenalin junkie sort of obsession with the newness of love or something....also...what about the very many faceds you have and the very many faces of your lover, do you know of them? do you seek them out in your partner? sometimes people feel unfulfilled and so they then seek out another as if the partner was not evrything...sort of...do you act in a similiar fashion always or do you have a sort of role for yourself? if you are static and fixed this could probably lead to the sort of maintenance feeling rather tahn a growing, a constructive nurturing feeling, sort of- the viability of the whole deal..you wonder if it is growing or whether or not you can look forward to anything....perhaps. perhaps not. but there is a definate case for the heart love...the open hearted feeling- this is for sure very definately.....i can only recite little bits that have caught my eye that i have read, wondered about and heard...i cannot tell you how to apply them for i am only starting to learn myself....but there is something to it...i urge you to look into the teachings of tantra, very seriously...the reports of healing there are awesome and very amazing-i wonder why it isnt a regular part of society, in fact.

hi there yesterday i started off with some physical acts to alleviate the trouble and let me rest very comfortably in the evening...i burned cinnamon garlic and dragons breath sealed it with sandalwood, and i noted that the mix smelled wonderful to me really sort of like thats what i was hungry for? the smell was very satisfying and i burned it in my house thickly my neighbors thought i was nuts but i was very much digging on the tranquility and this awesome feeling that the incense was very purifying...um-i also took a bath with some crystals crushed in a glass...very purifying in itself...i have not uttered any wording but very calmly conducted my little cleaning out and i have found it to be very relaxing of the tension in my home! yay!-whatever it is is sorta shocked or it spent the night elsewhere really, my place is much nicer now actually, energetically and i love it. (if anybody is reading this,  i sorta think nobody is anymore- but ill keep posting and waiting for input i guess) my darling spent the night over so i wasn't very concerned about any spirits there actually not especially after burning the Cinnamon nd garlic etc.....hmm wonder what percentage of neg attacks occur when the person lives alone really? next i will try and get the prayers going to further clean it and say the prayer of protection before carrying on to the prayer of exorcism. things are well here and improving very rapidly...i am going to start studying the obe 'stuff' here shortly-January. gosh i also noted something else-a weird Little scuff or misconception i had about my brother was exposed the other day and we are closer now psychically-he means a lot to me, and i was having queer dreams that we were not friends anymore really-that he hated me or didn't know i existed or something- a neg's good idea to bother me and disenfranchise me emotionally? very probably. the other day we communicated again (my brother and i) and the whole trouble i was perceiving turned out to be very reckless emotional thinking....wierd! and VERY uncharacteristic of me as well....to be very fearful of trifling occurrences between me and my brother i mean. I hadn't been absolutely insecure about our friendship before this last little bit. I think our clear up can further dislodge the hold of the neg on me....no what else needs cleaning in my thinking i am wondering.....

in addition to whatevr anybody else says, how long has it been since you went in for a physical? i am not saying there is no spiritual stuff involved...only wondring about possible body troubles too...could play a roll i think, or at least you would want to maybe alleviate physical trouble so that you could focus on what you are doing....and not be dragged down physically and could aid you emotionally. that is my very simple suggestion, and it may have already occurred to you.

rastus, i have a very humble suggestion to you. you can make statements of what i should pursue...useless for me in what i do-no where did you say why...if you are certain that i am competent oughtnt you simply provide me with some truth? you obviously have a LOT of knowledge....now know that i only make decisions on what i should pursue from simple information it pops off as rather superior of you-if you intend to help commands derserve explanation-i only tell you this becuase i think you are not aware of how your message comes across and i am certain you absolutely intend to help others, not irritate them.  The only person who could take from what you had said with no trouble is a person who will always come back for more, a dependent person who doesnt wish to understand nor have the responsibility of making their own decisions...i want you to be able to convey what you know-the truth isnt you or what you believe should be done....so just give the truth! already!...haha! your want to care after hinders your ability to help!  i think! :)you remind me of a boy named nicholas i used to know! fare thee well! if you want to talk more please do so!

thanks!

wow. yah i know just exactly what you are talking about the bombardment of energy trying to get fiierceely into you and it just burns up as friction heat like youre a shuttle reentering the earths atmosphere and the fire burning all in and all around your craft really is that darned entity...yeah i know exactly what you are talking about, exactly...when the one that i spoke to talked back it sounded like there was just this crazy reverb on it actually....the post someone else submitted about grinning and bearing it and becoming strong without protectors or amulets really just having stronger spiritual ability really rang true for me... although i am working on ridding myself of the thing and really know very little about it actually, I only simply set goals for myself really and take time to purposely sleep and become stronger and better at confronting it comfortably and like, not flipping, and what is more, practice doing goals i set for myslef despite its hateful energy and just see it as ultimately contructive to my energy to learn how to ward off these entities more and more easily without struggling or something....without fear and stuff....maybe someday ill be so strong that i can notice and calmy confront the moment i am being asked to enter into contact and simply say no really by seeing it for what it is when it happens. that would be neat. that seems to be the future for people growing this way, long or short though the walk may be and through whatever lifetimes...yah you know what, here is my opinion, and i will be in touch because i am working this thing off of myself...i think, that although charms and things work, at what cost to your strength just YOUR strength? a quick fix may not be the solution so i think that the focus should be, on setting reularly bigger and better goals starting with the easily attainable and see it  all very constructively, like its something you are building...you are building an ability. This seems to work at everything in life, breaking a problem down into little pieces really and tearing down each one, whuich frees up more of you to tear down the next one and the next and then simply keep reporting on your progress really...it seems like so many people fail in life becuase they fail communications actually...they just dont ask for it or they stop or they stay unsure about the ultimate outcome like it is not up to them. I would say look up to god and say okay, i know it is not your will that i would just suffer endlessly and contribute to the trouble on this earth and as i know that this is truth i wait on your answers, your help, a guide, divine inspiration that will surely come to me and i know you will show me a way. I think it is to do with faith and simple persistance with noticeing things and giving yourself a credit for all that you notice and every little gain you get no matter how odd or little. That is what i think....do not think only of the right charm that causes you never to see the neg again...if you have to rely on something outside yourself totally, you will always have fear, and rightly so.  That is what i think. Oh my- well take it as a compliment- it is time that you defeat even THIS entity that would have prolly made you wet your pants as a boy-thats a good thing actually. So become strong! and i think humor helps a lot-but i guess you are really advanced, but maybe its just hearing and repeating what you already know that you need either way-look forward to the challenge-and think crap, what will i have once this thing is gone? How much more powerful will i be? Actually, you know what you have said makes me feel better about all the resistance i have faced in my life haha! That blip was nice and actually true. Just know that for everything in life there is a sacrifice always is and always will be, we pay up front or at the end, for what we have, i would rather choose to pay up front. (and it sounds like you would too!) have fun!

omg! hey i just remembered something!!! sorry if i write a hellofa lot but this is THE place i talk about this....okay, i remember at about age um, 18 i started becoming very strong because i spent hours and hours making art and things of that nature then also took really good care of myself physically or excercised a lot and i got to the point where i could have more endurance by projecting slightly out of my body....omg! okay so i must have been slightly doing that.....but THEN, i dated this one boy that just totally messed me up-after that i was nothing almost of who i once was in that i would try rather hard to be endlessly excited like i used to be really, but i was sorta tired no matter what i did and became utterly prone to nonproductivity and spinning my wheel sactualya dn could never seem to move smoothly and work endlessly like i used to. then at that point about that time, these dreams started....with he entity pushing me back into my body or teasing me by messing in my head and my dreams literally...the odd thing, when that boy left me it also made me feel pretty angry becuase it felt like he took part of me with him literally, a part of me that it too a long time to grow to become that happy-as happy as i was before i became involved with him actually. hm! so it is really related to projecting seriously and nearly all the problems i have had over the last four years really. yah. gotta get rid of that thing foh shoh.

o my gosh! thank you so much for your quick responses...every single one of them seemed to really cover alto! I am so thankful that you took your time to write me...seriously...just having your momentary attention on the topic , it feels just awesome! lots of love from over here...well the other day i started staying awake at the end of  every 90 min sleep interval i had to see what was happening while i slept..i noticed that i had sort of 'light' and superficial dreams that were sort of just filler, they were cloudy and i was obviously avoiding dipping down into deep sleep because i didn't want to be attacked really..its sorta a deal where one might habitually not walk where an electric fence used to stand they shocked themselves on once but i could tell when i was already starting to go deeply in and knew instinctively that it was going to get ticked in the next dream....and i have not been going lucid the past few nights really, i suppose because i am resting...wierd really, my dreams are rather interesting...not perfect, but i don't know where that thing is as some of my dreams have become very positive sort of really(?)....
 well , the night i posted i went home early to go to bed early and to get started early so could sleep later as i knew i would be tired from recording every hour what was happening....i wrote down some goals for opposing the 'neg' in a manageable gradient..not hatefully, i mean but things for me to master, such as 1)move anything...2) sit up....3)do not fear...4)stand further up...5)walk....and tried to see how the neg might make me stronger really by learning how to move with a weight on, once it is thrown i may be stronger really..like strengthening of the immune system fighting off a virus or something....
 That night before i went to sleep the second dream in could feel myself going deeper and knew the next dream would prompt a visit from the bad boyfriend, ol neg-i dream i was flying through a hall of ghosts at my parents' house and this all because when i intended to switch a light of it was off when i got to it, an anti-will sorta deal, so i accused the neg of being present in my dream and it was not one but many...so maybe it was a dream and just a dream...i dunno....but then, i sorta felt silly yelling crazy pentecostal things...like what? you know so i didn't know what to do and i felt like laughing...all i can do is fly back and forth through their vaugeish magnetic static cling feeling forcefields of nada and go get out in the name of god! But all they were doing was just being there. so i said shoot, whatever. then i went to switch off the light switch and it of course stayed ON. and i started laughing because there was something seriously childish about it all...like, okay you can thwart my will to shut off a light i guess...haha...then threw my hands up over it and went to 'sleep' then woke up to the thing and this happened next-
the best i could do was (i was sleeping chest down) turn over and put out a hand to push the neg back...it pushed me out of sleep but i went right back and did the same thing but then then-i have NO idea where i came out with this one...but....i pulled out a bottle and threatened to blow air into the bottle that would suck the neg inside? and i started whistling into it...it pushed me out of sleep finally. i feel ever more certain that i will get it to leave as a simple part of my development and i wonder how good things will become when it leaves because a lot of things have become better in my life despite this thing....i will try all of your suggestions as best i can over the next week, thank you again.

oh and uh...remember that what you say is um, creative, so like, if csomebody posts a simple solution that might inspire confidence and hope or strengthen us, i would say dont bonk with that post, thanks and watch the communication beneath your post as in 'those who believe in the devil already belong to him'? see what i am saying?  does your post look for an answer or merely inspire fear? thats what i see here, i mean, what is your intention when you ask questions that you know cant necessarily be answered and cant necessarily be resolved...just talk about things that work and what has worked...thats what i think but you know i usually dont get into this kinda deal, im just trying to shake a crappy demon or something.
hahaa. you know? be creative, i think.

hey i posted the new thingy, um we at vunderbal enterprises will be sending this thing whatever the bonk it is out of this reality by destroying the anchor point it uses to even be here, so uh, no support system for me, 'we' whoever that is that helps me and me, will be getting rid of this piece of excrement forever. So please anybody who knows about this sort of thingy who will give it proper respect for the fact that it is definitely real! not a suppressed childhood trauma that i never had resurfacing...yah i wanna talk to that person here thankye! or at least sort of guide me to the next person who can help me, cuz i have a lot to accomplish in this lifetime and this thing is screwin me up kinda bad yall. just look at the darn post i put and thats not really an in-depth description of how it affects me personally...I mean, i used to not have it, so there's no reason why i shouldn't return to that state of being really. Yah so anybody who wants to win some good karma tokens or something puhleese hit me up! my problem is posted at the top there...Thanks!

posted as hey got a problem, with a spirit, part of myself, or a 'neg'?

um okay, this is the last post but its totally relevant, my grandmother and my mother have both suffered from insanity and still do, they have delusions to the max and schizophrenia as it is called but my mothers started after something totally unfortunate happened to her, meanwhile,  my father is deteriorating emotionally, as did my uncle who has already died from committing suicide at forty after struggling for years with insanity and depression, so like what I'm saying is...this is a big deal and i sorta feel like i need the big guns, cuz after reading the little blip i read written by that exorcist lady, um, I'm dealing with maybe more than one or it is a familial deal or something.... whew! okay I'm done.

well i mean, i have not tried everything but i surely have cussed it out and told it to leave me the hell alone, really...i guess i want a hero to send it permanently packing but like i gotta develop the strength to send this crazy thing out myself..but like how, is what i am saying? i am not a meta physician a witch or anything, just a lowly skateboarder who is tired of waking up tired...shew! help?

  rrr okay i am new here, basically i have got this problem and i just now have gotten so sick of it that i am very ready to take action everyday---somebody tell me how to get this damn thing to go away...everytime i go lucid in my dreams which is nightly for me its just something I've always done, nowadays i will spot a character in the dream, and realize it is not me...or there is just something weird about it really, and then suddenly it becomes very angry and starts attacking me and just all it wants me to do is stop whatever it is that i am doing...no matter what...at first i couldn't figure it out why it hated everything i initiated, but now i had read that maybe it wants to inhabit and control me, which explains the pressing sensation i feel which is painful, and causes me great fear and distress, especially as every morning i have a beginning obe because i am apparently ready to separate from body--i 'wake up' and see the real world with incredible accuracy, then start to wasn't to move but the entity presses down on me hating my very being and bombarding me with 'shocks' to my energy -once i was able to climb out of bed, but it knocked me to the floor...this thing is like evil i am thinking! i have tried everything but i am afraid that it can prompt insanity and it is very threatening to me...okay i guess you can tell its kinda scary to me, but the thought of clearing it from my body and surroundings is very exciting because i am still an energetic person despite these er 'bully' beatings! i am already more familiar with it and less afraid, but i need strength in my energy body...and confidence...what is it, and like, how do i become strong spiritually? how do i destroy it basically?