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#1


Dont spread fear about earth distrucition and death

WHO is dying at the first place?! :wink:

Just be CALM, and dont be afraid of anything: what is going to happen it will happen with your concern about it or without, its the same

Those part of yout beings that is mortal is already dead, it is just an illusion, but your true self is "above" life and death
:-D
#2
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#3
Some claims that Maya calendar is not accurately recalculated to western calendar: What do you think?

So ... ok

here is link for the dream I had recently

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/strange_dreams_intense_light-t25497.0.html
#4
Welcome to Dreams! / Strange dreams: intense light
January 22, 2007, 19:20:57
So. I had this kind of dream that is connected with particular feeling..

I am in my apartment and suddenly: I fell and see something intense gloving outside the window. What could it be? I came to the window and I see somethin intense burning in the bushes: maybe fire I think but light becomes more and more intense. I think it could not be the fire what is it. Intension of light increaes, more and more and more: you cannot look at this light, so intense. Suddenly light becomes so intense that curtains at my windows begins to melt and smoke.
I sam very scared: what is it : the and of the world: I am not afraid of death I think, but I am afraid of the pain: that light will burn me to death in terrible pain.
But that didnd happend: the feeling changes: it becomes VERY STRANGE and DIFFERENT:  totaly different feelig and consciousness: feeling is similar to those in the "movies of disaster" every disaster menas changing and something new...
Again I look at the window and what I see: DAYLIGHT: but it is 10 o clock at night: there should be night:
I look at the sky and I see ANOTHER SUN in the sky very shine and intense: I think now there are two suns
Bat what is the most siginificant is the FEELENG in that dream : totaly different perspective, lke this: Imagine you wake up in the morning : look at the sky and you SEE ANOTHER SUN in the sky: HOW WOLD you FEEL : I felt something like that

In that dream I decided to look at that new sun whit special dark glass(the sam glass I have in real life and it is used for watching directly at the sun). I saw some kind of darker areas like continents similar to earths continents but that was not the earth continetns : they look totaly different...

So what do you think,
Sorry for bad English
Another dream whit this similar feeling I will write later
#5
Quote from: Cereal-N-MilkThat happens to me i guess. I never know what to do.

you had a conscious projection???
#6
QuoteBut my theories have at least been scientifically theorized, while yours are just coming out of thin air. And I think the chances of aliens having evolved on a planet like us is MUCH greater than all aliens being etheric...

hmm...

Why , I mean what is the greates reason that you have such belief??

Why it is so ompossible that they evolved on etheric....

I just ask but I think alien abductions has nothing to do to aliens.. I thing its just a spontaneous projection in most cases...
:grin:
#7
QuoteI already explained why an etheric being couldn't make itself a body.

Everything that is not proved impossible IS POSSIBLE :grin:  :cool:

QuoteWhy would aliens be etheric and not physical like us?

Why would not???

I repeat: Everything that is not proved impossible IS POSSIBLE

I dont have true evidence FOR and you either DONT have true evidence against...

Its just speculation
:grin:
#8
Quote from: jay dawgroll out?

When I try to do anythinh i loose concentration and vibration stops..

When I become conscious in sleep... when I concentrate to environment I got afraid of waking up and loose concentration...

How NOT to wake up?
#9
Quote from: NickJWFirst off, I agreed with the theory that they turn their physical bodies and ships into energy for long distance travel. Why I don't believe they are etheric in nature is because it is most illogical to belive that humans are the only physical beings. I think aliens would be too, to say they originated in the etheric just makes no sense.

You should actually try reading what I'm saying, you will see I agreed with some of the things you siad, yet you say I didn't in your post...

Why I don't know alot about magic? Becasue 95% of it is fake and that is a fact. Just because mystics say it is possible to go from etheric to phyisical (without at least orginially being physical) dosen't mean its true, like I said magic is fake. I'm saying logical theories and trying to have an intelligent conversation, while you are overconfident in magic...

Sorry but atoms and particles dont just come from the etheric, I believe it may be possible to turn something physical into energy(etheric) and then back again to physical, but for something etheric to turn into physical is just impossible and can't happen. It must have that original organization of the atom before that can occur. Aliens can't just pop up physical bodies with DNA, and bio matter out of the etheric! That's why I don't believe that they are etheric beings. It just isn't a logical or rationale theory. I can see you don't put alot of your own thoughts into your theories.

You know very little about science and logic.

You dont believe in magic and believe in etheric  :lol:


Etheric to diescribe like energy is not very true...

Energy is very hard to define...

Quotebut for something etheric to turn into physical is just impossible and can't happen.

Why?

You I think believe very much in this two main energy laws( I dont know name in English)...

There is theory: Pure SPACE is energy: 1 qubic mm has more energy than ALL VISIBLE MATTER in space(matter = energy)

QuoteIt just isn't a logical or rationale theory. I can see you don't put alot of your own thoughts into your theories.

Etheric realm is NOT very much logic and science.. then astral... science is still not capable for this
#10
Quotehowever strongly disagree with the theory that they are etheric beings that materialize 1. becasue that has never happened and is theoretically impossible

Disagree:

You know very little about magic(dont know right world)...  

There is principle named Teramagatron(something like that) How in higher level so in lower..

Etheric and meterijal is connected.. when something is created in astral(etheric) this will exist in physical...

Quotewhy would we be the only physical beings and aliens etheric?

Maybe the are not etheric but they know how manipulate with this etheric level for traveling and materialization and dematerialization..

QuoteThere is really no reason at all to believe the theory that they are etheric, it just isn't logical.

there is a pretty good reason:

Every abduction experience is VERY similar to etheric projection!!!!!!



QuoteI highly doubt that they are etheric in nature.

Why??????
#11
What is the best way to induce projection when in focus 10???
#12
Quote from: NickJWInteresting, a light beam. One thing is for sure, if there are aliens visiting Earth, they must be EXTREMELY advanced. The closest star to our solar system is about 4.2 light years away. That means that aliens must be able to travel faster than the speed of light to reach us. However, we know so little about physics still, that whose to say its impossible. They probably warp space some how kind of like on star trek. On wikipedia.org I was reading about the theoretical possibiblity of "warp speed". Nasa says they have breakthrough theories on this type of thing and that it is theoretically possible. I would also recommend reading about Project Orion on wikipedia.org. It's a controversial space shuttle which could be built with our current technology, that would take us to Pluto in 2 days. However, it is fueled by nuclear bombs which is why it is so controversial and the shuttle hasn't been aloud to be built.

Or maybe the US government already has alien technology to travel the galaxy with, so they don't need Project Orion. :lol:

It is NOT too smart conception!!!

Travelling so far must include SOMETHING other: Materialization, dematerialization (it is well known in magic) ..

Maybe they dematerialize their ship than travel faster than light(like etheric body) and than materialize

OTHER conception is that common aliens are ETHERIC beings, but they can manipulate to physical...

I am not from Amerca: But I heared that there stories about UFO abduction are very common ? It this so?
#13
TishAnna:

QuoteI am assuming condensed light beams, maybe like lasers

This is not capable of speeds higher than lightspeed

Didnt you presume that this experience is maybe product of imagination.. it is possible in projections.. and it is very difficult to differ imagination from reality

How much experience do you have in projections.. what techniques do you use??
#14
Quoten asked him how far away from the Earth we were. He said about 2 million Earth miles. I asked which galaxy he was from, and he

That means that he (captain) as in OUR Solar System? :confused:
distance is too short for other solar systems...

What was the shape of starship??
#15
I usually have projection when having vibes, but without conscious exit from the body...

I never saw my body when projected. you??
#16
QuoteSo, don't feel guilty about your sexual feelings.

You misunderstood: I am not feeling guilty at all, i just want to say that concentration on different chakras has different effect..

QuoteI told you "Congrats" because for most people is very difficult to get into that state: Vibes and Ringing. If you have Vibes and you hear the Ring, just keep focused (breath, different location or whatever) and you will soon project.

Do you have vibrations.. did you ever have real and conscious projection.. I mean exit from the body

Bye :grin:
#17
magicmac2000:

QuoteI'm sure the third time you won't be scared at all. Smile

I am a kind of a scary person :lol:  :lol:

There is something interesting :

My fear in state of vibrations I control or reduce by sexual feeling similar to excitement like meeting a girl or sth. like that... do you know what I mean??

I thing this PRIMARY or ANIMAL feellng will always lead me to dark and lower place of astral..

I thing I need different approach to fear by concentrating on something higher or subtile more than sexual affection.. like LOVE .. or warm feeling in hearth chakra...

Is etheric projection always connected by primary or "sexual" chakra..
I thing in state of vibration a great amount of energy is flowing from primary chakra up to higher chakras toward to head


QuoteCongrats !!

Why? Is this vibration state special or unusluall, and shoud I be happy of able to achieve it?
#18
QuoteEXTREMELY loud before too bro

too bro???
#19
Quote from: DraegeMost everyone gets this. The details vary from person to person but its mostly all the same when it happens. I don't know what the monroe focus 10 technique is, but I seem to reach this scary vibration state (with all its accompanied weird sounds and sometimes visuals) when I try and "relax" and drift into a lucid dream rather than phasing into one with mind visuals. By mind visuals I mean picturing a dream sequence and jumping into it. Phasing makes the changeover extremely simple and painfree. I think this scary vibration state is the result of being inbetween so to speak. When you drift slowly from one state (awake) to another (dream) instead of making an immediate jump, you go through this sleep paralysis / vibration state. That's my opinion on the subject.

That being said, regardless of why/how it happens, if you find yourself in that state do your best to stay calm and unafraid, and try to roll out onto the floor. You'll either roll out successfully and be in a lucid dream state vibration free (if you have lingering fear when you do it things might be scary, so rid yourself of fear) OR rarely you may just wake up in your bed .


It wasnt lucid drema state it was VIBRATINAL stale like prior to etheric šrojection..
Vibrational state isnt present in lucid dremas, i think..

Quotemonroe focus 10 technique

Try google, it is very efficinet technique for etheric projection...
But you must wake a few hours earlier then usual, than be one hour awake. and thn try this technique...


For me vibrations arent so scary.. but I got afraid when heard that strange short very loud sound in my head
#20
I will shorten these story about this experience!!!

So...

This experience is full with vibratons and some being outside the body(withoust visible exit out of the body) but VERY humid and dark... (very little detail)


This what I am going to describe happened TWICE in my life...

I became conscious im my body in state of vibrations not able to move.. and I got the thought "Lets try" Monroe Focus10 (or 11 I dont know ) technique..
First I concentrated to the spot outside my eyes in the dark about 50cm distant.. then I radial moved this spot of concentration above to the top of my head...
It was VERY full with vibrations... and suddenly I felt strange sound in my head.. first sound like water flowing in my head.. then some time later... VERY LOUD WHISTLE, but not CONSTANT more like telephone and not so high frequncy, a bit deeper... pretty short and VERY loud.. I SCARED and woke up immendiately...


This SOUND is ABSOLUTELY identical like sond i heard in similar situation a year ago..

What is it ? What would happend if I didnd woke up.. would i go outside the body...


This sound is simmilar to soud in some of the presets in BW generator.
But I wasnt using it
..

sorry.. bad English.. i dind write anything in english or spokeenglish for years
#21
It is just 1....
1 equal infinity :D  :lol:
#22
QuoteMind IS consciousness.


Pure consciousnes has nothing in common to be conscious of sth....
#23
QuoteOk, sounds great! So what happens next? Typically you start forgetting all of that amazing cosmic knowledge as it leaks out of our somewhat inadequate brains over time. Reaching enlightenment only once is just a taste of what can be. The trick is then to do it again and again, and each time remember more. In the case of kundalini awakening though you have to be careful here as the body needs to learn how to cope with the energy surges, otherwise you can fry nerves.

Knowledge is the state of MIND, and apsolute conscious is beyond the mind...

Mind can not know apsolute consciousnes....

Knownig something means object..  and there is no objects, and subjects in apsolut consciousnes
#24
Quotein the next ten years or so I may well reach cosmic consciousness. But when I do, then what? (I guess the topic heading is pretty self-explanatory [])

How may I reach apsolute consciousnes....

Would it be the same "I" than?

Your true "I" (stma or self) already and  ever was and will be apsolute cnosciousnes...

Ask yourself  "Who am I" and write here



QuoteI understand that in different spiritual systems, there exist many different levels that one can attain to.

All that levels that you read it about are from this "ilusory world" and they are illusion or maya....

QuoteWell phoeb once you reach cosmic consciousness in the not so distant future as you so modestly see it[] You will be able to do many things and one of them is assencion where you will be able to transend this dimension and reality and enter what could be called a Cosmic college of sorts where you will start to learn the basics of creation and what direction you will then wish to go in for instance classes such as "Guiding 101" or "Creation of Organic Life" etc.... But the classes are long and you will spend a minimum of 1,000 Earth years in this learning period but it's not anything like school on this plane. It is a period of Cosmic Ecstacy filled with beautifull beings and energy's many of which you will remember once your there from other lifetimes and places......Many Blessing's


Stories for little children :lol:  :lol:
#25
Quotegrizli, thank you. It definitely helps to be reminded of other viewpoints.

Well ,I asked you again!!!:
Ask yourself : Who am I and write here :D