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Ok, how far have you got? (Any viberations, sounds, ect.). And how long have you been doing it? I can ltelo ya some ways once I dig um up

Oh boy, another person trying to disprove Astral Projection. If you don't believe in it, don't try to change others mind, simple as that. If your not trying to do that, I apologize. It just sounded like that in your post.

1st: yup
2nd: donno

I've been meditating longer then i've been trying to AP =-P. However, clairvoyance is once thing that I haven't done. Maybe I should one of these days. Thanks for teh advice

Maybe, I don't feel excited or anything when I realize it, just something so unlogical will happen and i'll be like "Hey, this is a dream" and wake up. Maybe I feel excited and don't remember, who knows.

What the topic says, whenever I become lucid I wake right up. Any ideas why? Or how to prevent it?

Alright, Yahoo it is then, doesn't matter to me. (Thank god for Trillian )

Yes!! THATS Who it was!! Cube! I'll read both of those and will prob. contact you on MSN, Aim, Yahoo, ect. Thanks for those links, Spectral.

Hmmmm...interesting, yes, i'll try that. Thanks SpirituallyGreen

TAKE A TRUE BREAK.

For one month! You can do it! But don't take the break to actually go out of body, do it for the actual break. You need it anyways.

Last time I took a break I couldn't even get any feeling at all when I went back to try.

I most the time get about...8 hours of sleep a night.

No method is the easiest, each person is diffrent, one method might work better for one person then another. I however like the "White-Light" Method, and one of my own.

P.S. The 'easiest method' is one that you make =-P

I used to do that, for some reason stopped though.

"Psychic Boy"?

Um....what are you talking about?

Just will yourself back in think "I'm back in my body", your will is command in AP/OBE.

One way to get SP, is when you wake up in the middle of the night, DONT MOVE AT ALL. I know this is really hard, coz for me its almost automatic, I will always change position when i wake up, BUT if you manage to remain completely still and go back to sleep again, you should wake up a couple of minutes later in SP.

Can you have a noise wake you up? or do you have to wake up naturally?

1st part, yes, thats normal.

2/3rd part, things might look a bit distorted and be moved, some old things that were once in your room and removed might also be there. But looking 100% diffrent, I don't know about.

karnautrahl - No, I have never tried them, maybe I should lol.

clandestino - Thanks, i'll try that for a few days like you said.

Anyways, what I meant by "didn't expect to do it" was I didn't expect to do it, and I didn't expect to not do it, I was at a state of mind where I just don't really care if I do or don't.

I got preaty far in the past, I felt very floaty, strong vibes, heard a voice or two I think.

Hm...the 1 method that I got REALLY far on was the one where you:

1. Get a timer, set it for 5 minutes, try to fall asleep
2. After it goes off, set it for 10
3. then 15
4. Then 20
5. Then keep setting for 25

I edited this though, and made beeping noises and burnded them to a CD. I also just yesterday tried the "White Light(Or was it Tube?)" Method. I felt floaty but thats all.

Every night

It's possible to pull the astral body out when both people are in physical and awake, although EXTREMELY hard.

Thats what my friend said also. I've been getting more relaxed before hand now when i try.

Alright, I'm starting to lose hope. I've been trying to project for 3(maybe 4) years now. I know sometimes it takes this long but I've done everything right, I've kept calm, keep focused, didn't expect to do it, etc. I've tried so many methods and only had some real progress with one (it was posted here on the old forums, don't remember who wrote it). I need a method bad, something basically simple. Please help.

                                                                              Thanks,
                                                                                        Kiba