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I read somewhere that on the road to self-mastery you must embrace the plateu. I somewhat agree with that, however I am also walking on that damn plateu and I feel I'm ready to climb.

I think I just need to get down in it more...practice

oilfieldpiolt,

I agree with you when you say "in your everyday life, live as though your 'creation' has happened, and it will become real"

There are those times when you look at your bank account or realize that there is something you can't have at the moment that brings you down.

I was wondering if anyone had some tips on getting past that or success stories of creating what they wish.

I have dreams of writing wicked riffs (I play guitar) the problem is remembering what they sound like when I wake

Totally agree, it really frustrates me to see the....division? between phasers and mystics. We are all talking about the same thing here aren't we...the only thing that really matters is there IS something more, there IS something behind this physical life

Whatever you wanna call it, consciousness, energy, soul, spirit it doesn't matter. Its like saying the light frequency of blue is better than red. Now I'm all for both camps because its all about learning, testing and experiences.

But just like science and religion, conflicting views cause problems.

Anyways I think spirituality is a beautiful thing

they do indeed suck! i'll tell you of my experience. I was sleeping and then i just became conscious, i heard children laughing and playing, i'm just beginning with projection so this was really something else for me. so much so that i started feeling uneasy about the noises, and with my unease the children's laughs turned to screams and cries! now i am really freakin! but i got a hold of myself...realizing that becoming uneasy had possibly triggered the change in children's voices. I tried to relax and ignore and they slowly faded

other counts of astral noise are huge roars, zaps...etc. the usual accounts

oh and another scary one was this sound of drilling and i thought it would be exactly the sound of a drill going into my skull...not pleasant

very good point! thanks

projection sounds good enough word for me...even though we are looking in its like projecting consiousness to a different level

I had a dream last night about dying and you just reminded me of it. Thanks Telos...however i can't remember it as well as if i woulda wrote it down when i first awoke.

Anyways i was in the army WWII (Been watching too much Band of Brothers) and i remember knowing that most likley i will die and even knowing that dying would probably be really cool because of the experiences i've had projecting i was still really scared...didn't want to die. weird

hahah ya...gotta think not to think....oh but don't think that...just know

i sense tension between the mystics and the phasers!  can't we all just get along! i mean here we are on the verge of something great, a new understanding of our world,our reality, ourselves and we are still fighting over details...this is what makes me sick about religion!!!! can't we all look at the big picture! the overwhelming similarities! why do people have to die because my god is named this and your god is named that...we agree there is a god...and something so special and magnificent is going to care what you call him...damn there should not even be a word for her/it/___/him. so now we are going to argue about who is more right phasing or mystic style....commmmmon!

can't we just enjoy the mystery...don't you think the more intelligent forms out there are looking at us with sympathy.  -end rant

Love my friends

On one occasion I was watching a clock on the wall, and as I watched it, the hands suddenly jumped into a new position without warning. The clock was ticking away smoothly and then suddenly the hands would jump!

this is a little off topic but about the LD and watching a clock... once when i was in a lucid dream (and saying to myself "this can't be real....but it is") there was a grandfather clock and i was watching the hands spin backwards. it was krazy

hey guys! i know exactly what it feels like. you've just discovered the most precious of precious secrets. something that has profoundly changed your life. you go and tell your friends and family of your revelations with excitement only to be looked at strangely or at best saying "oh that's neat" but you can see that they are just being polite.

you can't understand why they wouldn't be interested in this. why aren't they asking the questions i would be asking?

in one way i feel alone and different. in another way i feel special. i don't think it would be that great to have EVERYONE doing it...maybe it would i donno. I like to feel special...hmmm damn you ego! is there no getting rid of you?

yes the secret is up,down,left,right,start,stick tongue to the top of mouth

the way i figure reality is that everyone has their own intentions shaping our world...i think some people have more powerful intentions than others, most likely due to mental strength and will. so its like a pushing game where everyone has a vote to what they think should BE.

probably a lot more complicated than that also when you take in to effect beliefs in what is possible, your subconscious, karma....angels? everything.

oh my human mind is so feeble at least i know pizza tastes good

You know if you travel at the speed of light then time ceases to exist. But what is light? it is similar to energy. but what is energy? the short answer is everything as i gather. so there is no time, only now...but that is funny because as humans it takes us something like 0.3 seconds for our senses/brain to process "reality". so are we always in the past? i guess it doesn't really matter anyways because everything is relative. if i had a twin brother and he flew a jet for a living he would be younger than me....so says Einstein. our universe...our reality is so strange! go figure

I get this too sometimes...I was just remined of an instance reading your post. I remember I was in trance and it was two old ladies saying something like "If only we were behind" or something I forget...I've also heard my parents in conversation but I forgot everything they said by the time I woke up...and they live 20hrs drive away!

I'm pretty new to this as well and when I project usually its black and I can't see anything. I try to will myself to see, I try using my astral hands to pry my eyes open but nothing works. I believe soon I will figure out how to see while projected...just takes time.

Once I woke to the feeling of leaving my body...I heard children laughing and playing which sorta scared me and as I got frightened the laughs became cries and screams which really scared me but I said to myself its ok...just relax and they will fade and after a moment they did.

Most of my astral projections have this same problem (I've been doing this for like 5-6 months) I feel myself leave my body buy I cannot see...I will try to will myself to see but it doesn't work...I try to use my astral hands to pry my eyes open and it doesn't work either.

I just think that eventually I will learn a way to see when I project (consiously or unconsiously)

Also when you said it hurts...I've felt pains when a chakra becomes very active as well...then I say no it doesn't hurt and I focus on the feeling more and I realize its not really pain its more pressure or tingling or as I once wrote "Like a photon rapidly hitting a plate in the middle of my head"

Thanks Aros for the great advice! I feel the same about all the points you made...I guess I just wanted to hear from someone else than myself.

Something that I have noticed also is that although I haven't been APing or LDing I have had a very active and memorable dream mind. I feel as if my dream recall is becoming stronger as a result of my meditation training. If only I could become concious in my dreams to turn them lucid and then lucid to projection!

Soon soon.

This has happened to me before I believe. Also many times if I do get out I will not be able to see and I only feel myself floating around. Or also sometimes if I go through a wall or something everything goes black.

I've read this may have to due with our brain adapting to downloading this "astral realm" information.

Thanks! I will.

Lately I've been in this slump where I feel like I'm not making any progress...although I suppose I am...its just that I haven't had any cool experiences lately.

Usually I would meditate and something really cool would result...I've yet to consciously project but I would become aware in Lucid Dreams or during sleep would wake to feel myself projecting.

Lately it has just been meditate, sometimes I get vibrations so thats good but I haven't had a Lucid Dream or projection for like a month or two

This happen to anyone and how did they overcome their drought?

I've listened to the high pitch noise in my head a couple times...it seems to work pretty good...there are just so many techniques out there!

It could be that the high pitch noises is the same as vibrations and that when you do become truly aware of them you feel the vibrations then?

As for other noises I've heard swooshes, buzzing,  ringing that progresses louder, breaths, frog like noises, and the all time one was children laughing and playing which turned to cries and screams when I became a little frightened

I love In Flames as well! They rule!

Music is amazing...its truly what I live for. The emotions it takes me through!  

If our reality is made only of a certain vibration and music truly is only a vibration of sort...what does that tell us?

ya! if you think you saw through your eyelids then you probably did! let yourself be the judge of what happened...after it happened to me I was (like I said) so excited and I wrote it down...I highly recommend writing it down or documenting it in some form because later I began doubting myself

"Did I really see through my eyes, or could I have just been mistaken?"
Then I go back and read what I wrote at the time when I was so sure it had happened and I know it is true.

I think that music can both help in concentration and be a distraction. It helps calm the blabbering dialog but can also keep you from deep focus....at least thats how it is for me...if it works for you then do it!

What I would like to know is what genres of music does everyone listen to...I love metal. My favorite bands : Chimaira, Killswitch Engage, Lamb of God, Tool, Unearth, deftones.

Duration: 20mins - 2 hrs
Night/Day/Both: Both
Music Yes/No (Music a detriment or helpful): couple times
Where you meditate: In my bed laying down
How long you've been meditation: 6 mo.
Positive results:Extreme relaxation/best sleeps ever! , vibrations, progressively better dreams and dream memory, lucid dreams, astral sight, foggy astral projections, and best of all a beautiful new look on reality.

About the music,
Music is beautiful...I am a musician and I love music. Music helps calm our active minds (you know the dialog that constantly runs inside your head...which we try to quiet when meditating) but it can also be distracting and cause loss of focus...so it is double edge i guess