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Dreams that contain challenges can be set up by guides as training scenarios.  This could have been one. You clearly acted as a helper and even lifesaver for the kid.
So yes, this 'smells' already like retrieval work (preparation / training).   

I was thinking about that possiblity for sure. It definitely stuck out compared to my other dreams. I don't usually save people in them so this was fascinating. I have been asking my helpers to get me involved. I have a strong feeling that this was either a test or the real deal. I'm excited. I'm looking forward to seeing what they have prepared for me.

Hello everyone I had a strange dream this morning and I am wondering if it was a retreival. The vibe of the dream doesn't fit the trends of my typical dreams so I'm not sure how to categorize it.

I woke up early this morning an hour before work and decided to get more sleep. I appeared in an elevator. This was clearly a dream although it was a decently vivid one. I was waiting on the doors to close when I see this baby (young toddler sized) walk up to the elevator and slip into the gap between the floor and the elevator. He didn't fall all the way through but only halfway. I was curious so I picked him up and took him to his mom who was sitting down in the back right corner of the waiting room for the elevator. She had a black baby stroller next to her. I didn't get any emotions impressions from her which was odd.

The scene reset? This is hard to describe because it felt like the whole scene just started over again which doesn't happen much in my dreams although its not completely uncommon. The way it happened was definitely strange.

I'm in the elevator again and see the little boy slip through the cracks but this time he fell all the way to the bottom. I perceived that we were on the first floor or something like that. I went into the elevator and pressed the button to go to the second floor then hopped out. That was my first thought and the doors closed, the elevator went up and I managed to squeeze in and save the baby from getting crushed by the mechanism. When I picked him up, I noticed that he became a lot younger which was strange but this was a dream so I wasn't shocked.

I handed him to his mom who was just sitting there almost like she was frozen. She had the same reaction in the first scene. I handed her the baby and made a lighthearted comment about how stressful it must be to be a mom. She briefly smiled but I felt a strange emotional distance/disconnection this time around.

That's pretty much it. This could have definitely been a normal dream but I thought it would be good to share with you guys to see what you think.

Thank you for this. I was wondering why her name sounded familiar and its because I have her book on thought forms and occult chemistry. I'll definitely give that talk a listen. I enjoy her and leadbeaters books.

I really appreciate the instruction and guidance. I have started reading ginnys posts too and I really enjoy them. Thanks again for the help! I am nervous I won't lie to you but when I question myself and ask if I'm ready, I get a very strong "yes" so I'll trust it and move forward. I think my helpers know the type of instruction that I need so I'm looking forward to it.

Thank you everyone for your kind words! Being on this forum has been necessary guidance for me and I greatly appreciate it. I can be stubborn and I have really been learning to listen to my intuition which led me here.


I have been asking here and there but nothing major or consistent. I've mostly been asking to be prepared for the work. I've been going through a very powerful growing process in the last few months being prepared for something. I believe one of those things is this kind of work. It's been on my heart for a while and I need to listen to that.

I have had dreams and woke up thinking "I wonder if this was a training session or a rescue?"

A few months ago I had a dream where I was with this little child. He was probably around 8-9 and I don't remember where I was or how we connected but I do remember having certain feelings about what to do with this situation. I don't think I've ever been to a place like this in my dreams at least I don't remember. My journal has never included a location of this type.

I asked him what year it was and he said 1800 something. I remember feeling a lot of compassion for him and I showed him some of our cool technology. I told him that the year was 2025. I showed him some smart phones, TVs and more. It became a fun "show and tell". He seemed happy but I don't remember how it ended. Although this was a dream I really feel like this was an intro class in a way.

I will make requests every night and take this seriously. I don't know why it's be on my heart so much but I feel that this is something I need to do for my growth and to help others. When I was a Christian I used to do bible studies with people so that they could be "saved" and I really like that type of work. I was never one to judge and I just wanted people to be happy and experience forgiveness. At one point in time I wanted to be a doctor but I chose this path instead and I think there is a reason for that. I'm a bit nervous but I'm also very excited to see where this goes. I'll post updates and again thanks to everyone for commenting. You're all very helpful souls and I enjoy your discourse.

How can I initiate retrieval work?

I have been projecting for a few years and recently I've been developing a phasing adjacent technique which isn't really new and is very open ended. It's mostly bilocation related which has been interesting to learn but again very open ended so it's been a process. I feel that I'm very close to using this for consistent projections. I've recently learned that a medication I'm taking is making evening projections very challenging because of my sleep cycle so this has been really fun to learn. 

I feel that I'm starting to move in a new direction as I advance in my development overall especially these last few months. Something that's been on my heart for a while now is doing retrieval work. There are a few dreams I've had that I believe to be introductions (one of which involved a child from the 1800s).

I think that emotionally I'm ready to help in any way I can. How did you guys start this work? I don't even know where to begin except asking for help from guides or other light beings.

These are mine:

1. I hear a very loud static/ rushing water sound. Almost like I'm laying next to a waterfall

2. Recently, when I'm very very tired I've been hearing a similar sound but instead of rushing water it sounds and feels like I'm being dunked in water

3. I get vibrations but it's more or less some fine buzzing around my head and ears not really my whole body. Its light around my body but nothing as crazy as others have felt

4. I've felt etheric movement inside of me. Like my second body is wiggling back and forth

5. I get sleep paralysis sometimes but it's usually touching, whispers in my ear etc.

6. When I get close, I feel my consciousness slipping. Its similar to the feeling of almost slipping when walking down stairs.

That's about it. I'm very basic I guess.

I start with a very specific question and may ask and focus on it for a while with intent to receive answer. Then I release it to all that is and go about my day. I may receive answer immediately in form of thoughts that pop up into my mind or I may receive it soddenly at a later time. Usually that happens when I am driving because I am focused on one single thing that has become automated and the rest of my mind is free to receive. The "downloads" happen in a form of stream of thoughts that I know are from the larger self. For example, one time I asked "who we are and what is the structure of existence". That took a while, but one day as I was driving my mind flooded with information about zooming in and out. I saw with my mind's eye myself as a character in the car with a very narrow focus of a telescope. When the telescope started zooming out, I saw myself as a sum of many characters, then zooming out more, I saw myself as a larger entry, then a group of larger entities, soul families. As the zooming out continued and reached full capacity, I felt one with all that is and was looking from the perspective of the One. All that information was received while I was wide awake. It was sudden. It was not forced by my physical mind to understand or analyze, it just came through unexpectedly. But it came through because I asked previously. I think it's important to ask specific questions one at a time and wait for answer until you ask another question.

I used this Saturday afternoon and I got a very clear answer later that night/ early yesterday morning. Thanks for the advice!

I start with a very specific question and may ask and focus on it for a while with intent to receive answer. Then I release it to all that is and go about my day. I may receive answer immediately in form of thoughts that pop up into my mind or I may receive it soddenly at a later time. Usually that happens when I am driving because I am focused on one single thing that has become automated and the rest of my mind is free to receive. The "downloads" happen in a form of stream of thoughts that I know are from the larger self. For example, one time I asked "who we are and what is the structure of existence". That took a while, but one day as I was driving my mind flooded with information about zooming in and out. I saw with my mind's eye myself as a character in the car with a very narrow focus of a telescope. When the telescope started zooming out, I saw myself as a sum of many characters, then zooming out more, I saw myself as a larger entry, then a group of larger entities, soul families. As the zooming out continued and reached full capacity, I felt one with all that is and was looking from the perspective of the One. All that information was received while I was wide awake. It was sudden. It was not forced by my physical mind to understand or analyze, it just came through unexpectedly. But it came through because I asked previously. I think it's important to ask specific questions one at a time and wait for answer until you ask another question.

Okay I see. I've done this before but not with this much diligence. I'll try it out. Its interesting how much information we can receive with just simple questions and observation.

I understand what you are saying. Just wanted to bring to your attention feelings such as frustration and stress, because feelings try to tell you something. As long as you feel balanced, go for it, but watch the negative feelings and analyze the root cause. Afterall it should be fun, not a demand or effort.
You can receive answers in many ways. I have received more answers via "knowledge downloads" while awake, than during APs. No one will give you straight answers during AP either. Many people want to find their guides, sit down and ask them a bunch of questions. That's not how it works. We need to find the answers ourselves. All other help provides hints, clues and sign posts. These are what we need to be aware of in life and pay attention.

How did you go about those downloads?

Yeah I'm excited to go on my own journeys and answer my own questions. I think guides are cool but at the end of the day I'm responsible for obtaining my own knowledge and growth. I probably do need to pay more attention in waking life although I do experience rather interesting things

Hi Yesmar, and welcome

Just curious, why do you have the need to have so many projections day and night. Your slow periods have more projections than most members here have. Keeping balance between physical life and non-physical explorations is very important.

Hello. I really don't know why I'm like this. My physical life is  very balanced. I think I was so used to consistent projections (in my terms of consistent)that I didn't realize until recently that I have way more than the average person does. Something in me wants to have them multiple times a week because I feel like I can? I have always been a very driven individual and I know that this is a gift and a curse in a way.

 At the same time I think I'm at a point where so much of my physical life is wonderful for the first time ever. I have so many things I want to discover and questions I want answered out of body. This seems like the natural progression of my curiosity. Maybe I'm pushing too hard? I'm not sure. I'm very open to any advice that you have. I have a fair amount of opportunities to project during the week and because I  Havent been able to consistently "exit", it caused some frustrations. Much of that has dwindled in the last two weeks but your question has me thinking again about my desire to do this so much. I do feel like I'm getting where I want to be.

When I first started this, my physical life was in the dumps. In the last year and a half life has been great especially recently. It feels like because that part of my life is so great, I'd like the non physical part to match up.

Anyway, I don't want to ramble. If you have any guidance or thoughts please share them. I probably need some perspective. 

Thanks for the response. I've heard of this etheric body. Afternoons have been challenging for a while although my sleep schedule has changed a lot over the last few months with my new job. At night (if I project) they are always extremely clear and I can be out for a while. Maybe it will help to forgoe the naps and just do it in the evening. I do jiu jitsu so I'm always pretty tired at night especially after training. I also have not done much phasing at all which I'm starting to get into.

Do you have any thoughts as to how I can shed the etheric body/ use the astral body when I do it in the afternoon?

Another question: My afternoon experiences have been extremely short. Does anyone have any advice on expanding my time? I'm not used to such short journeys. It seems like after 10-15 seconds, my awareness just shifts immediately back to my body. I usually have a slight pull and slowly I feel drawn back. This is very sudden and frankly, a little annoying. For context these are not phase shifts but more so "traditional" experiences. I had one yesterday that was by far one of the shortest I've ever had.

Thank you for the response! I am  looking forward to getting some success with phasing because I'm excited to get back to travel. I feel as though I'm much more prepared and primed to be flexible for new ideas and concepts. I have not had much success with affirmations. But I believe that this is because I made the suggestions way before getting to the edge of sleep.
 
Those ideas about the words "out of body" and "projecting" are fascinating. I understand them intellectually and in a limited way I understand them intuitively. I think I need some more projections to really get a grip on the idea. I've been diving into this website getting good information. There is so much to read and digest. I've been looking for a place to commune with more advanced folks. I'm mostly on the subreddit helping the new people but I don't get much time to learn from the sages.

 

Awesome! I'm so excited to get things moving again. I really appreciate the thoughts and advice

I see what you mean. It makes sense because the environment is already there, I just need to walk through the door. Once I shift, I can just continue from there and go about my regular journeys? Knowing me I'd probably explore where I end up because I'm too curious.

Thanks for the reply! I'm happy to be here. What's interesting is that I just had an afternoon projection about five minutes ago using the swaying motion technique I read about on here. After getting relaxed it was very simple to use. The only issue is that the projection was very short. For some reason my afternoon projections have been way too short. Once I get out and leave my room, I get my bearings fly up and then my awareness comes back to my body and by then it's too late. I'm wondering if it's because my depth of sleep during a nap is not very substantial. This was a very simple transition out of my body for me which was nice for a change.

I have actually read up on phasing recently. Xanth sent me his book via reddit and I've been reading it. I also read that same post from frank earlier today at work when I had some down time between patients. What's interesting is that as I've been playing with the technique, I've noticed that I get a little bit closer to exiting every time I try it out. Today for example before my projection, I felt for the first time, my awareness changing as I looked at the blackness of my eyes. I'm used to this sudden shift because I've taken intense notes and try to be aware of it as I slip into different levels of relaxation to sleep. This time was very different. Its very hard to describe but I felt closer to shifting then I ever have consciously at least.

I've recently been doing a walk-through of my old childhood home as a way to relax before I do any consciousness exercises. Today as I was doing it, I felt slightly drawn into a scene for a millisecond. My consciousness pulled me back but this tells me that I'm close to just letting go and allowing myself to phase into it.

I appreciate the advice. All signs have been pointing to this phasing thing. I'm so used to traditional exits and exit sensations that I've been ignoring new signals and signs to try something new. I will keep reading up on it. I believe I have the general idea, I just need to keep practicing it. I will continue to practice it tonight and here and there I'll try the swaying. Either way, I feel closer and closer. This approach is so new but I'm really excited to dive into it. It seems very straightforward. I just need to make sure im not falling alseep.

I definitely understand. I've been having more success recently but compared to the past it's not really much although it's probably best to focus forward than back.
I've just been wondering why it's been challenging and why it's not smooth. I did have a very very smooth exit a few weeks ago before the hurricane (I'm in Florida) . I was extremely tired from jiu jitsu training the night before and the rushing water came on STRONG like it did in the past. I rolled out smooth like a knife through butter. The issue was that it was so surreal, I thought I was still in my physical body and ended up going back to it. I hadn't had a Projection that clear and clean in a while.

Since then it's been very short projections or odd random sensations and new doors opening to project.

I changed jobs recently but after reading your response, I realize that last year was immensely stressful because of my old job. I absolutely HATED it and it way a struggle to go to every day. It was very draining and I felt like I had no other options. Maybe 8 months ago, I began to visualize and Request a better job that is less stressful and paid more. After a bit I decided to randomly apply to a job I didn't really want but I needed it. Anyway, I'm at the new job and it's much better. That's been a main change.

Another change was the shift in my emotional state last year. Up until late 2022, I was battling very rough  bipolar depression (at the time I didn't know this). Although I was struggling, this was one of the most fruitful times in my projections. It also drove me towards this whole projection thing. Last year was a year of growth for me and I really got out of my depression (with the help of a solid mood stabilizer and a sleeping medication). I grew a lot of life really turned around for the better. This year has been even better than last year. I don't take the sleep medication anymore. I'm certain that made conscious nighttime projections almost impossible. Its been about 3-4 months since I stopped it.

Outside of these two things, there  haven't been any major changes. Today, I've never felt better in my life. Physically and emotionally I'm doing very well. Spiritually I'm doing well I think.

I've noticed that since I had a random Projection a few months ago, I've been able to induce the starting stages typically in the afternoon. I would say 3-5 days out of the week on average I can induce a state that would allow me to project. The issue I've been having is really with my exits. I had a fair amount of opportunities last year but my exits were very very difficult. I felt like I was trying to roll into a brick wall. They've been better but still not smooth. It's like I'm learning to project again. I've been taking more detailed notes, analysing my attempts and developing strategy for certain situations but overall something tells me that I need to stop trying so hard.

I remember last week as I was waking up from a dream, I felt like someone was teaching me something about projection. He felt like an older gentleman with a beard. Very wise energy if that makes sense. I recall a phrase he used that was the only thing I remembered: "Focus on the thinnest thread of energy"

I have an idea of what he was talking about. Unfortunately I have not had much of a chance since then to figure this out. Although I am not having weekly projections like I want to, I do feel as though my consciousness is expanding in different "directions". A few days ago for the first time, I successfully transitioned into and out of a dream while being fully aware of it. I recall passing through "layers" of awareness. I ended up in my childhood home with some kind of being (in the form of my brother) in front of me working with my energy. I've found myself partially "phasing" into dream sequences I create or other things like that. I've found myself feeling like I'm on the edge of a clifd and below me is this dark void with TV static and colors within it. For some reason I hesitate and then I shift into a dream. These things don't happen often enough for me to get a good grip but it's always the afternoon. I haven't had any nighttime opportunities.   

There have been very interesting and new sensations I've noticed that have been developing but  they aren't consistent. They keep me on my toes because I'm not used to them. Anyway I don't want to keep rambling but that's what I'm at. Its not the worst thing but I really want to get back out and get my destination/concept list slowly crossed off. I feel strongly that I can project 3-5 times a week but it feels like I'm missing something. I've been going back to the drawing board.

Hello, this is my first time posting I hope I'm doing this right.

Context: I have been projecting since mid-late 2021. When I first started I was hot. At least 4-7 projections a week. On the good weeks I was having 8-12 with two opportunities to project every night. After the early start of 2023 my projections just stopped and dramatically slowed down. I went from my usual amount to maybe 1 or 2 every month or so if I was lucky. It became a struggle to even get to the point of projecting. I was used to laying down and very quickly hearing a very loud static/rushing water sound. I rolled out very very easily and went on my journeys. It was never an issue to project.

Over the last two months they've slowly started to come back but with very little consistency and with very different "signals" that are not as strong as before. I feel like I have no momentum and its a battle to even have one or two a week. I'm trying my best to let things flow but it's still frustrating.

I would love some thoughts because I really want to get back out there. The last two Projections I had were almost two weeks ago. Very short but pretty nice to finally get out.

Any help would be appreciated