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I've just begun to read it. So far so good. I'll let you know what I think when I've finished.

Sounds like just the book I've been looking for-will definitely have a look!

I've tried to but no success. I will say this though-the common factor for me slipping into a lucid dream is sleep deprivation. I may, for no apparent reason, wake up in the early morning hours and stay awake until around 5:30 when I crash. I fall so hard and so fast that I stay conscious and this is when it really takes off.

Mr.J
I agree that exploring the unknown can only help us grow but I can't help but feel that I need a way. I studied a bit of Plato when my lucid dreams began and it taught me how one core understanding could hold together and facilitate a minds venture into the unknown. The practice of exploring and finding answers I found needs to be consistent with some truth one can always reason back to. To what end do we reason? I guess my issue is that I need for things to be defined and consistent with a core understanding. I'd like to understand how one comes to define an astral experience or even a lucid dream. I've been thinking I need to go back to the Socratic teachings to help me out. Do you recommend any?

Mr.J
Do you think that a lucid experience be it astral or within the constructs of ones mind is random? Does a trip to another world give me more insight than a trip to my own back yard? Or should I look for a common tool that I might measure both?

Mr.J
Are you saying that a lucid dream is a closed experience without a connection to universal wisdom?

I always figured meditation was what you did to get you into a lucid dream. I never thought to try it when I found it. I would like to learn how to maintain lucidity for longer. When I've found that I'm present, in what I think is my most lucid state, I find that people around me either know me or understand a need to communicate with me. In this lucid state I am so aware of my senses and I always feel pretty happy.

What does an astral experience have over a lucid dream? I wonder why some would want to convert their lucid dream into an astral one. I've had different kinds of I guess lucid dreams. Some where I'm not presently involved but am watching as though through a movie camera. I may see object's or places or people- even myself. I've seen myself a handful of times but with a person I've never met and in a situation unlike my own. I've felt myself being propelled through space and ending up looking at surroundings of what seems to be another world. I've been upstairs and downstairs,down fun slides and have taken some rides on a very unpredictable elevator. For me I think movement is the prelude to the stillness of a lucid dream in which I am completely present. I've never felt the need to control my dreams. I just sort of let them show me whatever and take me wherever. Is control the issue?

What would you call a dream in which you find yourself completely lucid. You're not being carried along in any story, you just find yourself standing somewhere and you can see your hands and it's the most amazing thing because you know you've woken up somewhere else. And there you are and you can't believe it and then you see people. Then some approach you. Sometimes even seems like they're waiting for me to wake up there.

I've been a lucid/very lucid/very,very lucid dreamer for over ten years now and quite frankly, I still don't know what the hell is going on. I've gone through many books to see if I could find someone else who'd either had the same experiences or who knew something of them. To date I've not been satisfied.
I've never seen a silver cord, and believe you me I've been up up and away. I'm also a little unsettled with this notion of bad spirits hanging around waiting to do bad things to us. I've had a few negative experiences but I think it's important to maintain the puzzle. A few pieces here and there does not make a complete picture. And so there with a few not so lovely lucid dreams I've had some extremely beautiful ones. That's why I go. I don't know how it happens but I can usually feel it right before it does. I dont try. I just let go. And one more thing. I think it's helpful if your searching for something. My need to know and understand what love truly is has been the one and only motivating force. You'll stand up to anything for it.