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#1
Typical internet marketing scam stuff, with a typical sales letter by a very known e-marketeer. Here is another of his pages...http://www.kingdomplr.com/jv/jvnpinvite.html
Personally - don't waste your time, learn from the real APers.
#2
Quote from: Dynamyke on April 11, 2012, 16:42:41
Check this out and be surprised:

http://www.spiritualmembers.com/astralprojection/

Click on any menu link, preperation, exit, etc. without logging in!

LOL, thanks! Talk about somebody who has no idea how to secure his website...
#3
So phasing is actually a type of lucid dreaming?

Here is a tutorial I found at the dreamviews forum, but somehow I didn't realize they are the same thing that Frank was also talking about...
http://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WILD-Tutorial
#4
I guess it's to convince myself that indeed, there is life after death and beyond our physical reality...one thing is to keep hearing and reading about it and another to actually experience it... while you're still alive...
#5
Thanks guys, you've just saved me some big molah  :-)
#6
My fingers are itching for a few months now to get this course (I loved his Astral Dynamics book, that's what got me in the first place interested in AP), but the course is way too expensive right now for me. And while the web is full of so-called "honest" reviews of internet marketeers, I haven't really seen anything here or on his own forum about it. So this made me really curious as to why practically nobody mentions it in the inner circles of AP?  :?

kislany
#7
Thanks again for the encouragement, I really enjoy these sessions!
#8
Ok I did other 2 sessions today, and this time I used Frank's method with a similar scene that he created to get to focus 10. The second time I only clicked out once, all the rest of the time I was aware, so - so far, so good.

But this time something weird happened, that almost freaked me out. At some point, while relaxing parts of my body (Instead of looking at my legs, thighs, etc, I use a masseur to release the tension from the areas in my body), just below my left eye it started really itching, so I had to use my hand to rub it gently, and then I went back to my initial position. However I had suddenly awareness of something else in front of my eyes. It was like a heavy black curtain or sky with millions of tiny white stars just came in front of my eyes and this was so real, it was truly beautiful. However, no matter how I tried to get back to my 'scene', I could not. It's like this black thing was a heavy door that wouldn't let me go or see through it. On the one hand I've never been aware (and aware is the keyword here) of such a beautiful black with so many little white stars moving there in front of my eyes, on the other hand, I got freaked out that I could not get back to my 'place' on the beach where I was before.

Eventually I relaxed myself more and I started to see the scene as if from far away while that strong blackness faded away, and then I got back in and did the exercise without any other weird things. Did anyone experience anything like this before? It was not like when I am waking up, although I was much more aware of myself then, but that black barrier was really strange to be right there in front of me, not letting me pass through...And it was so beautiful, so strong black and the stars where shiny white flickering in front of my eyes...

Hm, I think I'll have to start to keep a journal of all these experiences...might not have much to do with OBE, but they're completely different than when I regularly meditate...
#9
Thanks guys for the help and clarification. I'll post back later, I'm really looking forward to this new journey :)
#10
I've just started (again) with Wave 1 (the second track) so I can eventually learn to project. I'm still quite new at it (started last year, but gave up, and now I'm at it with anewed interest) but I have a problem and a question.

At first everything is ok, I follow along with Robert's voice and eventually I am someplace else, talking with somebody, or watching something, or running into a door (yeah it happened too), and I get jolted out of whatever happens to me by Robert's voice again, after the various periods of silence. For example just yesterday it happened when he was counting to 10 to relax the various body parts. I was always 'somewhere else' and his voice effectively sent a jolt through me and woke me up through each number counting.
Now does it mean that I've actually fallen asleep during those moments when he was not talking - and that each and every time? Usually it takes me over half an hour in the night to fall asleep, so it's difficult to believe that I've actually dreamed 5-6 different times a few minutes each...but otherwise what were those experiences (which seemed very real to me) of somebody talking to me, or handing me over a laptop, or me bumping my head in a door, or watching two people quareling with each other?

And the second one is that I feel I'm getting too fast out of it all when Robert Monroe is counting backwards at the end of the session. I feel it happens too fast and I haven't had the time to actually get into focus 10 as I've been 'pulled back' too fast. I've read some previous posts here by people who were saying that after listening to the CD (or track), they were then continuing to the phasing on their own. But how can you 'continue' when you are effectively woken up to be 'wide awake' when the track is over? How is everyone doing this?

Sorry for the lengthy post, I do tend to blabber when it comes to explaining myself...maybe it comes from the fact that English is not my first language, so the words come differently to me than to the rest of you :)

kislany
#11
Link is not working  :-(
#12
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, I am the same. Sometimes I switch the channels on the tv until the 'awkward' moment passes. It's really weird, and I thought I'm the only one. I've been told a long time ago that I'm an empath, so at least I know what's 'wrong' with me (or is it a gift?). Now if I could only learn to make empathy work for me, not against me, as Stookie also said...

At work, when I walk in the office, I know in advance when the boss's mood is 'weird', negative, and true enough, shortly it proves to be correct...
#13
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Members' Artwork
July 08, 2008, 06:59:20
Thanks, fixed now :)
#14
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Members' Artwork
July 02, 2008, 09:08:11
My art work is jewelry. Does it count?
http://marikach.blogspot.com/
#15
Something very quick happened to me the other day and I'm wondering if it was an OBE.
One morning I woke up just before the alarm, so I turned to the other side of the bed to switch it off before it rings. (the alarm is on the nightdesk on my hubby's side of the bed, and that morning I was alone). I saw the time said 7.50. Then I rolled back to my side of the bed. And then immediately I woke up and I rolled to the other side to turn off the alarm (saw that it was 7.55 actually) and then I realised that what I did just seconds before was not real, as my body didn't really move. But I was not dreaming either. Did I just experience a quick OBE?
But I didn't feel any vibrations or anything 'weird' before rolling out of my body, so that's why I'm not sure if I've actually experienced it. :?

kislany
#16
For me what works while meditating is, at the beginning, when many thoughts come invariably to my mind, I simply acknowledge them and say to them 'later'. To each and every thought or worry, 'later'. For example, a thought of 'have to call mom' - I say 'later'. Then another thought comes up 'forgot to send that email at work to the client'. I say 'later'. And because I say later, I know that I will pick up these thoughts when the meditation is over, so for the moment I stop worrying about them.
After a few minutes (can be 5, 10, or more, depending), the thoughts are coming with less frequency and the chit chat slows down and eventually stops. That's what works for me, anyway.
#17
Here is a list of professional past life therapists and regressionists, depending on your location, you could find somebody near you.
http://www.iarrt.org/